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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 12, 2019 14:35:31 GMT -5
SJU may need him. 😉
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 12, 2019 15:16:52 GMT -5
I like Ervin's game. Think he's the type of kid that lights up a high major in March. I think he could play at a HM in a specific role his first couple years and see what he develops into as an upperclassmen...
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Post by prhoya on Apr 12, 2019 17:54:12 GMT -5
Might be the sharpshooter we’re looking for... at 6’5”... solid fundamentals... tough kid... Mac’s buddy... would take to GU like fish to water...
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Post by rlo24 on Apr 12, 2019 21:22:21 GMT -5
This guy. Hoping Ewing was at his door today when he decommited. Heck, Mac was " discovered" when scouts were in town to see Zac..
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 12, 2019 21:41:48 GMT -5
Don't really see it for us. Mac was able to succeed at this level because the athleticism was legit. Don't think Zac would move the needle for us much, and I'd much rather save that spot for 2020. I think there should be space for him somewhere in the high majors though.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Apr 12, 2019 21:46:52 GMT -5
I like Ervin's game. Think he's the type of kid that lights up a high major in March. I think he could play at a HM in a specific role his first couple years and see what he develops into as an upperclassmen... This is exactly how I see Ervin. Seems like the type of kid who goes to Wofford and in his Junior or Senior year he is a problem.. Maybe he is worth taking a shot if you are a major school like Gtown as long as you know it might take a few years for him to contribute.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 12, 2019 21:54:53 GMT -5
I like Ervin's game. Think he's the type of kid that lights up a high major in March. I think he could play at a HM in a specific role his first couple years and see what he develops into as an upperclassmen... This is exactly how I see Ervin. Seems like the type of kid who goes to Wofford and in his Junior or Senior year he is a problem.. Maybe he is worth taking a shot if you are a major school like Gtown as long as you know it might take a few years for him to contribute. No chance. You cannot take a kid who you don't expect to contribute early unless he's a big. We're not scraping the bottom of the barrel on recruits these days. There are plenty of kids who are much, much better than Zac Ervin who would like to come here and play.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Apr 12, 2019 22:10:03 GMT -5
This is exactly how I see Ervin. Seems like the type of kid who goes to Wofford and in his Junior or Senior year he is a problem.. Maybe he is worth taking a shot if you are a major school like Gtown as long as you know it might take a few years for him to contribute. No chance. You cannot take a kid who you don't expect to contribute early unless he's a big. We're not scraping the bottom of the barrel on recruits these days. There are plenty of kids who are much, much better than Zac Ervin who would like to come here and play. I guess I should have phrased that better. I don't think he is worth a shot at Gtown, but I do think there are major conference schools that could take him and he could contribute late in his career.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 12, 2019 23:15:20 GMT -5
Don't really see it for us. Mac was able to succeed at this level because the athleticism was legit. Don't think Zac would move the needle for us much, and I'd much rather save that spot for 2020. I think there should be space for him somewhere in the high majors though. IMO This kid is more athletic, a tougher player and a better shooter than some of our guards this year and all of the guards the previous year. He has a specialty skill that we need next year, but is not a zero in other areas, plus he has great size.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 13, 2019 0:09:54 GMT -5
Don't really see it for us. Mac was able to succeed at this level because the athleticism was legit. Don't think Zac would move the needle for us much, and I'd much rather save that spot for 2020. I think there should be space for him somewhere in the high majors though. IMO This kid is more athletic, a tougher player and a better shooter than some of our guards this year and all of the guards the previous year. He has a specialty skill that we need next year, but is not a zero in other areas, plus he has great size. He is not more athletic than any guard on our roster. What is his specialty skill set that we need? He's not contributing anywhere high major as a freshman. Look at his offers. He is what he is. A mid major 2 guard. He's more Sherwyn Devonish than Mac McClung.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 13, 2019 1:08:34 GMT -5
IMO This kid is more athletic, a tougher player and a better shooter than some of our guards this year and all of the guards the previous year. He has a specialty skill that we need next year, but is not a zero in other areas, plus he has great size. He is not more athletic than any guard on our roster. What is his specialty skill set that we need? He's not contributing anywhere high major as a freshman. Look at his offers. He is what he is. A mid major 2 guard. He's more Sherwyn Devonish than Mac McClung. Disagree re athlete. Check his videos. He's a sharpshooter. Just like with Mac, he's undervalued because he comes from Gate City. Look at Mac's offers. Certainly Wofford is better than Rutgers. Btw, Wofford had 5 players who averaged 40+% from 3. Zac could be like one of those. Obviously, that coach has an eye for that skill.
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Post by bigelephant on Apr 13, 2019 4:04:50 GMT -5
If PE and the coaches think he will help - then I want them to go for him. I trust PE and his analysis.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 13, 2019 11:38:43 GMT -5
If PE and the coaches think he will help - then I want them to go for him. I trust PE and his analysis. ...and that's why he hasn't been offered despite them seeing plenty of him.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 13, 2019 11:40:07 GMT -5
He is not more athletic than any guard on our roster. What is his specialty skill set that we need? He's not contributing anywhere high major as a freshman. Look at his offers. He is what he is. A mid major 2 guard. He's more Sherwyn Devonish than Mac McClung. Disagree re athlete. Check his videos. He's a sharpshooter. Just like with Mac, he's undervalued because he comes from Gate City. Look at Mac's offers. Certainly Wofford is better than Rutgers. Btw, Wofford had 5 players who averaged 40+% from 3. Zac could be like one of those. Obviously, that coach has an eye for that skill. Wofford had a better year than Rutgers. It is not a better offer than Rutgers. Compare the players on the two rosters. How would he be underrated coming from Gate City when he had more coaches see him than probably any VA public school kid in his class because of Mac?
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Post by prhoya on Apr 13, 2019 16:08:52 GMT -5
Wofford had a better year than Rutgers. It is not a better offer than Rutgers. Compare the players on the two rosters. How would he be underrated coming from Gate City when he had more coaches see him than probably any VA public school kid in his class because of Mac? When was the last time Rutgers made any noise? Wofford is/was a better program with a specific style of play which requires several sharpshooters. Wofford's coach recruited Zac because of his shooting skills. We need a sharpshooter. Just connect the dots. How was he underrated you ask? Do you believe Mac was underrated? If you answer yes, then in the same way. If you answer no, then you would also underrate Zac for the same reason.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 13, 2019 19:07:44 GMT -5
Wofford had a better year than Rutgers. It is not a better offer than Rutgers. Compare the players on the two rosters. How would he be underrated coming from Gate City when he had more coaches see him than probably any VA public school kid in his class because of Mac? When was the last time Rutgers made any noise? Wofford is/was a better program with a specific style of play which requires several sharpshooters. Wofford's coach recruited Zac because of his shooting skills. We need a sharpshooter. Just connect the dots. How was he underrated you ask? Do you believe Mac was underrated? If you answer yes, then in the same way. If you answer no, then you would also underrate Zac for the same reason. Are you really comparing Wofford winning in the SoCon to Rutgers not being competitive in the Big10? Rutgers legitimately has 2 NBA hopefuls on their roster and Wofford may have one guy that can play overseas....I'm not saying we should or shouldn't recruit Zac but you need a better argument.....
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 13, 2019 19:53:45 GMT -5
When was the last time Rutgers made any noise? Wofford is/was a better program with a specific style of play which requires several sharpshooters. Wofford's coach recruited Zac because of his shooting skills. We need a sharpshooter. Just connect the dots. How was he underrated you ask? Do you believe Mac was underrated? If you answer yes, then in the same way. If you answer no, then you would also underrate Zac for the same reason. Are you really comparing Wofford winning in the SoCon to Rutgers not being competitive in the Big10? Rutgers legitimately has 2 NBA hopefuls on their roster and Wofford may have one guy that can play overseas....I'm not saying we should or shouldn't recruit Zac but you need a better argument..... People pick the weirdest hills to die on with these mid major recruits.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 13, 2019 23:20:06 GMT -5
When was the last time Rutgers made any noise? Wofford is/was a better program with a specific style of play which requires several sharpshooters. Wofford's coach recruited Zac because of his shooting skills. We need a sharpshooter. Just connect the dots. How was he underrated you ask? Do you believe Mac was underrated? If you answer yes, then in the same way. If you answer no, then you would also underrate Zac for the same reason. Are you really comparing Wofford winning in the SoCon to Rutgers not being competitive in the Big10? Rutgers legitimately has 2 NBA hopefuls on their roster and Wofford may have one guy that can play overseas....I'm not saying we should or shouldn't recruit Zac but you need a better argument..... No, I’m going to go with the 5 players who averaged 40+% from 3 on the same roster no matter what league they played in. Their coach saw that potential in Zac. We need a 40+% shooter no matter where he comes from. At 6’5”, if he can make it at that rate when wide open, is not afraid to shoot and defends, he’s an upgrade on every GU guard not named Mackinjo and even this year’s Pickett and Malinowski. Anyway, I’ll TTS to use that scholarship to make next year’s team as competitive as possible because Pat wants to win NOW!
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 14, 2019 7:42:15 GMT -5
I like Zac as a shooter, but can he defend a BE player? He’s skilled, but not super quick or bouncy.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 14, 2019 8:58:12 GMT -5
I learned a long time ago to never pigeon hole a prospect. We see every year prospects whose abilities were minimized by the so called professional evaluators and those prospects destroyed their perceived limitations. Hoyas fans saw that upclose this past season with Mac McClung.
If you asked Hoya fans a year ago who would they rather have between McClung or Quinerly. Most of the uninformed would have said Quinerly because people labeled Quinerly a stud and limited severely Mac. I doubt (hope) today many would want to Quinerly over Mac.
Fit, need, coachability, and work ethic plays a huge (maybe the biggest) role in determining how successful a recruit will be at a program. It's part of the reason why I don't believe at all in rankings because it doesn't take any of that into account. Villanova does it the best. They let a "burger boy" walk and replaced him with a prospect that wasn't on anyone's "top 400" in Chris Arcidiacono. There two PG's on their roster weren't even "3 star" recruits. Georgetown fans personally know how good Collin Gillespie can be.
I have no idea how good Ervin will be in college. I don't know what his work ethic will be. I thought Wofford was a great fit because of his current skill set and fit with their style. I also think he could play at HM if his skill set matches a need and their style play. Scholarship opportunities and other options available play a huge part in that decision as well.
Lastly it's ridiculous to think Ervin couldn't play for Georgetown or another high major. He's a lot more athletic then Blair. Might not be better skilled but he's at least similarly skilled. Ervin could easily become a Malinowski type of player/role. That doesn't mean the Georgetown staff should recruit him. That's up to them. If they see the fit/need and believe in their player development then yes. I trust the Staff wholeheartedly...
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