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Post by thedragon on Jan 24, 2020 12:08:34 GMT -5
As predicted. The rumor mill has been whispering about him and Gtown lately. My question would be about registration. My understanding is add/drop cutoff was last week - not sure how that would work.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 24, 2020 12:34:07 GMT -5
Maybe for next year. Regarding this matter and other potential transfers. Coach Ewing and staff have been tireless in their recruiting efforts and often enough prospects have made other decisions. Given our current plight if former prospects diagnose their situation and come back to a decision to enroll at Georgetown, I would welcome that decision.
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Post by wponds on Jan 24, 2020 12:34:30 GMT -5
He played 3 minutes and 1 minute in their last two games. Not sure how the waiver process is actually run, but maybe they'd allow him to get cleared for 2nd semester next year considering he barely played? Who knows
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 24, 2020 12:37:55 GMT -5
As predicted. The rumor mill has been whispering about him and Gtown lately. My question would be about registration. My understanding is add/drop cutoff was last week - not sure how that would work. Whitney is a freak athlete and plays hard, it just sounds like he never adapted to the style that Kentucky plays and did not earn the playing time he expected. He would fill that huge hole the Hoyas have since the transfers of an elite athlete on the wing. Should be interesting to see how this plays out. At this point I would assume he would need to sit out the entire season next year, but would still be worth bringing in for the future of the program.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 24, 2020 12:39:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if he has to sit out a year I think he goes overseas.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 24, 2020 12:42:02 GMT -5
I wonder if the pay cut would be palatable coming from Kentucky.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 12:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 24, 2020 12:51:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if he has to sit out a year I think he goes overseas. I think it's a bad idea to go play grown men to improve your draft stock.
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Post by TC on Jan 24, 2020 12:54:38 GMT -5
Nobody sees a red flag in jumping up and down for someone who is leaving mid-conference schedule for no apparent public reason?
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Post by hoyasevenstill on Jan 24, 2020 12:57:14 GMT -5
Nobody sees a red flag in jumping up and down for someone who is leaving mid-conference schedule for no apparent public reason? He left because he was getting less playing time
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Post by thedragon on Jan 24, 2020 12:58:43 GMT -5
Nobody sees a red flag in jumping up and down for someone who is leaving mid-conference schedule for no apparent public reason? You have anything to base this on? Because everything that's been rumored is that he has wanted to transfer for weeks due to playing time/fit with Cal and that their staff begged him to stay and trust the process like with Hagans, etc. But eventually he decided starting fresh was best. Your post insinuates something nefarious or scandalous? I'd love to hear what that is.
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Post by TC on Jan 24, 2020 13:03:30 GMT -5
Nobody sees a red flag in jumping up and down for someone who is leaving mid-conference schedule for no apparent public reason? You have anything to base this on? Because everything that's been rumored is that he has wanted to transfer for weeks due to playing time/fit with Cal and that their staff begged him to stay and trust the process like with Hagans, etc. But eventually he decided starting fresh was best. Your post insinuates something nefarious or scandalous? I'd love to hear what that is. I'm not insinuating anything in particular, I'm saying he's transferring midseason, we just had four kids transfer midseason, you pick up kids who transfer midseason, they might transfer out midseason again. I'd much rather us pick up grad transfers. We need some stability, Ewing can't keep jumping on whatever high-upside risky play is out there and expect things to just work out.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 24, 2020 13:06:01 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if he has to sit out a year I think he goes overseas. Anything is possible with these young men, but hopefully he realizes that if he is not prepared to earn playing time at a college program yet, he is not ready to enter the draft yet. Some agent might convince him differently and he may attempt that, but hopefully he realizes he needs to develop his game further and looks for a college program he can do that with. In a perfect world these kids don't transfer after the first setback they have in their career and they just buckle down and work harder to earn the opportunity they want, but that does not seem to be what happens too often these days.
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Post by RBHoya on Jan 24, 2020 14:16:49 GMT -5
You have anything to base this on? Because everything that's been rumored is that he has wanted to transfer for weeks due to playing time/fit with Cal and that their staff begged him to stay and trust the process like with Hagans, etc. But eventually he decided starting fresh was best. Your post insinuates something nefarious or scandalous? I'd love to hear what that is. I'm not insinuating anything in particular, I'm saying he's transferring midseason, we just had four kids transfer midseason, you pick up kids who transfer midseason, they might transfer out midseason again. I'd much rather us pick up grad transfers. We need some stability, Ewing can't keep jumping on whatever high-upside risky play is out there and expect things to just work out. I'd argue the opposite--if a kid transfers in, he's probably less likely to transfer a second time. I know that just happened with Alexander, but that was something of an exception and does not happen often. The rule requiring players to sit out when they transfer is specifically designed to discourage players from transferring multiple times in their career. I agree grad transfers would be great, but with 5 scholarships there's plenty of room for a couple of those in addition to regular transfers and 1-2 more high schoolers. In either case (Whitney or a grad transfer) you're probably just getting 1 season, so I'm not sure if that aligns to the need for stability that you mentioned. I'm sure Whitney never intended to be in college for long--in fact, I'm sure he saw himself as a one year guy. I wouldn't be shocked if he decides to leave college altogether, though if he can't get minutes on a decent but not stellar Kentucky team it may indicate that a little more development time is needed, regardless of what the pundits said when you were a high school senior. I do think there are probably some ego/chemistry concerns to consider with a kid like this--I'm sure he thought he'd be one and done, and if he's not on track to make it to the NBA quickly at his next stop will he blame the coach/situation or realize maybe it's him and not the environment that needs to improve? That being said, I'm not sure Patrick and our staff can afford to play it too safe. If we were looking at a great situation with a strong returning nucleus and a crop of Top 100 kids coming in next year, it's probably a different assessment. But as it stands, our chances of making an improvement over last year are dwindling and the odds of us being better next year than this year don't seem great either. There are a lot of arrows pointing down, and we need a shot in the arm. Yes, there are some risks to a kid like Whitney, but after the defections and recruiting misses we've had, we may need to take a little risk to get the arrows pointed up again. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his next move does not include college, but if it does I hope Orr and Ewing are after him hard.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 24, 2020 14:19:12 GMT -5
For a kid with this much potential and our lack of bodies for next season (especially at the 3/4), this is a no-brainer not only to fill holes left by the transfers this year, but to also convince other potential HS recruits (and grad transfers should he get a waiver) that they could be joining a team with some potential to do damage next year.
Hope Orr can close the deal this time.
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Post by TC on Jan 24, 2020 14:31:51 GMT -5
I'd argue the opposite--if a kid transfers in, he's probably less likely to transfer a second time. I know that just happened with Alexander, but that was something of an exception and does not happen often. The rule requiring players to sit out when they transfer is specifically designed to discourage players from transferring multiple times in their career. This is a kid who did not stick out one full season at a school and no one here can figure out whether he's transferring or trying to go pro. I think the worry really isn't "does he transfer a second time", it's does he quit midseason with no warning? Stability is an actual thing to worry about with recruits that Ewing is not worrying enough about.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 24, 2020 15:00:17 GMT -5
I'd argue the opposite--if a kid transfers in, he's probably less likely to transfer a second time. I know that just happened with Alexander, but that was something of an exception and does not happen often. The rule requiring players to sit out when they transfer is specifically designed to discourage players from transferring multiple times in their career. This is a kid who did not stick out one full season at a school and no one here can figure out whether he's transferring or trying to go pro. I think the worry really isn't "does he transfer a second time", it's does he quit midseason with no warning? Stability is an actual thing to worry about with recruits that Ewing is not worrying enough about. We need practice players at this point too. Bring him in, get him to realize the league is possibly never going to happen unless he develops. He probably has a better shot in college than in the G league. Beggars can't be choosers right now.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 24, 2020 15:03:56 GMT -5
Feels like a situation where the recruiting rankings played a negative role in expectations for him.
If I remember correctly, We were involved when he was in the 30-40 range. He had a great stretch of summer ball, jumps up to Top 5 in class and signed w Kentucky almost immediately thereafter.
Some of the shine was already starting to wear off before he even played at Kentucky as he looked a little overmatched in the all star games and at US camps when there were other athletes of same caliber.
If he's a top 30-40 player, I'm not 100% sure Kentucky grabs him, and the talk about him going pro wouldn't be there. We'll see if he transfers or decides he's better off developing in a teams G league program.
Georgetown can't be picky at this point. This is an explosive athlete who is going to have a lot of time to work on his game. We have to be all-in here, even if it's just for 2nd semester next season propelling him pro. We have enough spots where we can get traditional 4 year players and go for someone like Whitney. Not mutually exclusive
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 24, 2020 15:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 24, 2020 15:14:10 GMT -5
Feels like a situation where the recruiting rankings played a negative role in expectations for him. If I remember correctly, We were involved when he was in the 30-40 range. He had a great stretch of summer ball, jumps up to Top 5 in class and signed w Kentucky almost immediately thereafter. Some of the shine was already starting to wear off before he even played at Kentucky as he looked a little overmatched in the all star games and at US camps when there were other athletes of same caliber. If he's a top 30-40 player, I'm not 100% sure Kentucky grabs him, and the talk about him going pro wouldn't be there. We'll see if he transfers or decides he's better off developing in a teams G league program. Georgetown can't be picky at this point. This is an explosive athlete who is going to have a lot of time to work on his game. We have to be all-in here, even if it's just for 2nd semester next season propelling him pro. We have enough spots where we can get traditional 4 year players and go for someone like Whitney. Not mutually exclusive Yeah, Georgetown offered him in October 2017 when he was ranked in the 50-60 range. 247sports.com/PlayerSport/Kahlil-Whitney-at-Roselle-Catholic-191626/RecruitRankHistory/
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