Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 9:10:47 GMT -5
I think you're vastly underselling Patrick's experiences at EVERY level over the last approx. 35 years, as if coaching in college
has some magical, unique quality to it that effectively overshadows or injo some way minimizes all his other experiences...following your analogy, high school coaches would be the best developers of talent because they work with the pre maturing kids before the college coaches get them as maturing kids and then the NBA as grown men...if you've been the #1 high school player/recruit in the country, a 3 or 4 time college All American and Defensive player of the Year,
a 14 year NBA All Star and top 50 all time player, an Olympic Gold medalist, as well as an asst coach and asst HEAD coach for 14 years in the NBA (with many years under HOF or highly regarded coaches) I would think that your experiences, knowledge of the game and ability to communicate that would probably far exceed that of the great majority of college coaches in the game today (with the exception of maybe the top 12-15 elite coaches)...I would also think that he would have an advantage in getting players to the league, simply because he's "been there, done that" for an extensive period of time vs. probably 90% of college coaches who have not...his biggest adjustment to me initially will be the "administrative" side of the game, i.e. the rules, shot clock, etc.You really think that guys like Will Wade, Kevin Keatts, Holtman of OSU bring more to the table than Patrick Ewing just because they been college coaches for a few years? Give him 2 or 3 years and I think you'll see the impact of his experience...these kids who hesitate today to commit to him may look back in regret down the line...
Lon Kruger (Illinois to Atlanta Hawks): 69-122 from 2000-03, no playoffs
Rick Pitino (Kentucky to Boston Celtics) 102-146 from 1997-2001, no playoffs
John Calipari (UMass to New Jersey Nets): 72-112 from 1996-99, 0-3 in playoffs
Tim Floyd (Iowa State to Chicago Bulls): 49-190 from 1998-2002, no playoffs
Mike Montgomery (Stanford to Golden State Warriors): 68-96 from 2004-06, no playoffs
P.J. Carlesimo (Seton Hall to Portland Trail Blazers): 136-109 from 1994-97, 3-9 in playoffs
Reggie Theus (New Mexico State to Sacramento Kings): 44-62 from 2007-09, no playoffs
Leonard Hamilton (Miami Hurricanes to Washington Wizards): 19-63 in 2000-01, no playoffs
The collective record and winning percentage: 559-900 (.383) with a 3-12 playoff record over 22 seasons. (Note: I got this from a CBS Sports article: www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-coaches-to-nba-how-theyve-fared-the-past-20-years/)
There are few successful assistant or head coaches in the NBA who have moved to college, obviously. The two levels just aren't comparable.
Is it possible that Ewing will be a massively successful college coach? Absolutely. But he might not succeed. We just don't know - he hasn't even coached a game yet!
Your analogy to high school fails too, because that's also very different. High school coaches do not have to recruit in the way college coaches do, though obviously they have to develop talent. Obviously, there are some similarities between high school, college, and NBA basketball. And Ewing's experience in the NBA may help him at the college level, for sure, but it simply is not true that Ewing's experience is directly translatable since taking the helm of a college program is very different from anything he's done before.
Interesting analysis but you're not taking into account the state of those franchises before they got there. Most college coaches don't do well in the NBA because they're hired by awful teams. You can't recruit your way to better players in the pros. You have to wait for picks and draft prospects to develop and that takes time.
The jump from college to the NBA is probably a bit more difficult for that reason. NBA coaches moving to college can acquire talent through recruiting easier (if willing) then a college coach moving to the NBA can. And talent is a big part of coaching obviously. If Pat can recruit the type of players he needs to be successful, he'll be successful. If he can't, he will not. Jimmies and Joes.