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Post by sweetness on Feb 22, 2018 11:23:06 GMT -5
Yeah I think that's right. I like Walker's fight, but I guess he just needs more seasoning from a skills perspective. Hopefully they can both be contributors next year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 11:28:26 GMT -5
Walker is doing just fine but not really much of a comparison between Walker and Leblanc defensively. Josh was DPOY on the UA circuit. He can guard 1-4 and averaged 2.6 blks a game this summer. He has the ability to be elite on that side of the ball. We're talking about a potential BEDPOY here.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2018 11:28:33 GMT -5
Watching the Xavier game last night reminded me how excited I am to have Leblanc next year. Having a 6'7 athletic, tough competitor on the wing and inside will be huge for us. Isn't that what Walker was supposed to have been this year? I think we're trying to have Walker play the role that LeBlanc already plays but he was recruited more as a wing and less as a 3-position frontcourt player.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 22, 2018 11:58:11 GMT -5
Walker is doing just fine but not really much of a comparison between Walker and Leblanc defensively. Josh was DPOY on the UA circuit. He can guard 1-4 and averaged 2.6 blks a game this summer. He has the ability to be elite on that side of the ball. We're talking about a potential BEDPOY here. Totally agree with the comments and I think LeBlanc has much higher upside than Walker. That said, I do think we need to temper our expectations of Josh a bit. My biggest concern is his game seems very dependent on athleticism and foot injuries can be devestating to top-flight athletes. I'm worried that he may have tried to come back too soon for his high school team and, if LeBlanc's explosion is at all lessened by his injury, he becomes a far less attractive prospect. We're not talking about a particularly big or strong guy, nor one known for his well-developed basketball skills. He's a run/jump athlete with a high motor, which is awesome and much needed. That said, that's Walker's game as well, and even if he's a lesser prospect than LeBlanc, we haven't seen Walker be put to much use this year, even with a very thin frontcourt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 12:20:35 GMT -5
Walker is doing just fine but not really much of a comparison between Walker and Leblanc defensively. Josh was DPOY on the UA circuit. He can guard 1-4 and averaged 2.6 blks a game this summer. He has the ability to be elite on that side of the ball. We're talking about a potential BEDPOY here. Totally agree with the comments and I think LeBlanc has much higher upside than Walker. That said, I do think we need to temper our expectations of Josh a bit. My biggest concern is his game seems very dependent on athleticism and foot injuries can be devestating to top-flight athletes. I'm worried that he may have tried to come back too soon for his high school team and, if LeBlanc's explosion is at all lessened by his injury, he becomes a far less attractive prospect. We're not talking about a particularly big or strong guy, nor one known for his well-developed basketball skills. He's a run/jump athlete with a high motor, which is awesome and much needed. That said, that's Walker's game as well, and even if he's a lesser prospect than LeBlanc, we haven't seen Walker be put to much use this year, even with a very thin frontcourt. I don't think they are similar players so hard for me to agree. Walker is more of a physical/bruiser type that's going to bully you. He has the profile of the type of kid that Providence has had success with recently. An undersized post who plays with physicality. He's only a freshman so we will see how he progresses. Walker's strong, not long. I don't see a bunch of wild expectations for Leblanc as a freshman but he's more of a long wiry athlete that can guard 1-4. He's a dog, but he's not a bruiser.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 22, 2018 12:39:19 GMT -5
Watching the Xavier game last night reminded me how excited I am to have Leblanc next year. Having a 6'7 athletic, tough competitor on the wing and inside will be huge for us. I agree that Josh will be a valuable addition next year. I see him as a guy who will be an explosive finisher in transition and really good wing defender and rebounder. In a perfect world he would develop into what Naji Marshall has become. I know there were differing opinions on Marshall coming out of high school but he has turned into a really good player for Xavier and has a bright future. Taking the one red shirt year there has really helped him. I am not sure if Georgetown has enough depth on the team now to afford to have a recruit red shirt for a year now, and I doubt Leblanc would be a red shirt anyways, but hopefully in the next year this is a path theymight consider with some recruits who could use that extra year of growth and seasoning. Naji Marshall didn't redshirt. He was a top 60 player nationally coming out of high school last year, higher ranked than LeBlanc. sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/2017-finalThat said, I agree that he's a very good player and hope that LeBlanc develops into something like Marshall.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 22, 2018 12:50:58 GMT -5
Totally agree with the comments and I think LeBlanc has much higher upside than Walker. That said, I do think we need to temper our expectations of Josh a bit. My biggest concern is his game seems very dependent on athleticism and foot injuries can be devestating to top-flight athletes. I'm worried that he may have tried to come back too soon for his high school team and, if LeBlanc's explosion is at all lessened by his injury, he becomes a far less attractive prospect. We're not talking about a particularly big or strong guy, nor one known for his well-developed basketball skills. He's a run/jump athlete with a high motor, which is awesome and much needed. That said, that's Walker's game as well, and even if he's a lesser prospect than LeBlanc, we haven't seen Walker be put to much use this year, even with a very thin frontcourt. I don't think they are similar players so hard for me to agree. Walker is more of a physical/bruiser type that's going to bully you. He has the profile of the type of kid that Providence has had success with recently. An undersized post who plays with physicality. He's only a freshman so we will see how he progresses. Walker's strong, not long. I don't see a bunch of wild expectations for Leblanc as a freshman but he's more of a long wiry athlete that can guard 1-4. He's a dog, but he's not a bruiser. Ya boy you are a fount of information, valuable stuff, how do you know all you know? I respect, and glad to receive your insight...maybe hudl... What was A. Walker's reputation in being recruited? Was it the bruiser type? Or high motor, player rounded player? He was highly regarded and a member of a championship winning DCIAA team, HD Woods on HS. From what I've witnessed in a limited way, he's very athletic and a player. I'm a little surprised but not judgemental that he been used so little this year. What are your thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 14:21:46 GMT -5
I don't think they are similar players so hard for me to agree. Walker is more of a physical/bruiser type that's going to bully you. He has the profile of the type of kid that Providence has had success with recently. An undersized post who plays with physicality. He's only a freshman so we will see how he progresses. Walker's strong, not long. I don't see a bunch of wild expectations for Leblanc as a freshman but he's more of a long wiry athlete that can guard 1-4. He's a dog, but he's not a bruiser. Ya boy you are a fount of information, valuable stuff, how do you know all you know? I respect, and glad to receive your insight...maybe hudl... What was A. Walker's reputation in being recruited? Was it the bruiser type? Or high motor, player rounded player? He was highly regarded and a member of a championship winning DCIAA team, HD Woods on HS. From what I've witnessed in a limited way, he's very athletic and a player. I'm a little surprised but not judgemental that he been used so little this year. What are your thoughts? There wasn't really a lot of video on Walker tbh but more of an athlete with developing skills. Pretty sure he hasn't been playing that long, but he's a hardworking hard-nosed kid. Staff probably like his toughness, work ethic, and upside, but hard to say how 3 was planning to utilize him without seeing it in action. He's looks like a great teammate, and you know he's working hard. I think his time will come.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 22, 2018 14:34:19 GMT -5
He's a top 100 recruit that some people have said is the best defender and shotblocker in the class. Before he got hurt, he was making great strides with his offense. Bruce Bowen might be an interesting discussion but Aaron Bowen shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion.
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Post by dense on Feb 22, 2018 21:18:19 GMT -5
He's a top 100 recruit that some people have said is the best defender and shotblocker in the class. Before he got hurt, he was making great strides with his offense. Bruce Bowen might be an interesting discussion but Aaron Bowen shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion. lol. yeah. id say more of a swiss army type when i saw him at the top 100. he is a great defender and can handle and pass some. Shot is a work in progress but not terrible.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 27, 2018 1:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Feb 27, 2018 6:59:51 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 27, 2018 8:55:47 GMT -5
I think Josh is going to have a big impact next year and will see lots of minutes. He is an elite athlete with a great motor. Kaleb Johnson had a tough night last night and unless he shows more consistency in his game next year, I think he might spend a lot of time watching Josh playing his position.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kaleb and I think he plays with great energy and effort, but a guy like him has to do all the little things well to really be an asset to his team and he still turns the ball over way too often and for a player who is supposed to be a defensive stopper he fouls way too many times when he does not need to. I don't think the team needs him to score big every game to win, but he needs to be making those positive contributions every night on defense and on the glass and lately he has not been consistent enough. I think Josh might elevate what the Hoyas get form that position next year.
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Post by blazers44 on Feb 27, 2018 9:36:26 GMT -5
I think Josh is going to have a big impact next year and will see lots of minutes. He is an elite athlete with a great motor. Kaleb Johnson had a tough night last night and unless he shows more consistency in his game next year, I think he might spend a lot of time watching Josh playing his position. Don't get me wrong, I like Kaleb and I think he plays with great energy and effort, but a guy like him has to do all the little things well to really be an asset to his team and he still turns the ball over way too often and for a player who is supposed to be a defensive stopper he fouls way too many times when he does not need to. I don't think the team needs him to score big every game to win, but he needs to be making those positive contributions every night on defense and on the glass and lately he has not been consistent enough. I think Josh might elevate what the Hoyas get form that position next year. . Kaleb is currently playing the shooting guard spot. Josh will be a SF/ PF
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 27, 2018 9:59:00 GMT -5
Besides a few good defensive stops per game, Kaleb has been invisible.
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Post by marco715 on Feb 27, 2018 10:02:00 GMT -5
If Ewing wants Josh in the starting five, could he move Pickett to SG and put LeBlanc in at SF? Make Kaleb more of a bench player.
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 27, 2018 10:02:49 GMT -5
I think Josh is going to have a big impact next year and will see lots of minutes. He is an elite athlete with a great motor. Kaleb Johnson had a tough night last night and unless he shows more consistency in his game next year, I think he might spend a lot of time watching Josh playing his position. Don't get me wrong, I like Kaleb and I think he plays with great energy and effort, but a guy like him has to do all the little things well to really be an asset to his team and he still turns the ball over way too often and for a player who is supposed to be a defensive stopper he fouls way too many times when he does not need to. I don't think the team needs him to score big every game to win, but he needs to be making those positive contributions every night on defense and on the glass and lately he has not been consistent enough. I think Josh might elevate what the Hoyas get form that position next year. Kaleb is currently playing the shooting guard spot. Josh will be a SF/ PF I realize they say Kaleb is playing the two guard but it seems like Pickett and Kaleb are pretty much inter changeable at the 2 and 3 in this lineup. They both seem to really just be wing players and I could see Pickett being more of the 2 next year, if his handle improves and the team can find a more capable point guard. I think Josh would do well guarding wing players and would be a strong rebounder at that position. He probably is not ready to do a lot of ball handling or consistent scoring next year but I think he can be that role player that we had hoped Kaleb would fill more consistently this season.
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 27, 2018 11:49:49 GMT -5
Besides a few good defensive stops per game, Kaleb has been invisible. So you missed the three turnovers he had in the first 5 minutes of the Marquette game last night. Don’t know how he was only credited with 2 in the box score.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 27, 2018 16:54:37 GMT -5
Besides a few good defensive stops per game, Kaleb has been invisible. So you missed the three turnovers he had in the first 5 minutes of the Marquette game last night. Don’t know how he was only credited with 2 in the box score. One of them was a terrible pass from Mulmore.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 27, 2018 18:04:46 GMT -5
Kaleb is a serviceable low-end Big East starter. Unfortunately, we need to upgrade the SF and PG positions to propel this team to the next level. I think we are capable with Pickett, Derrickson, and Govan at their respective positions to win 10-12 BE games. The question is whether we can find 2 other upgrades heading into next season.
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