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Post by iheartdurenbros on Mar 13, 2018 16:49:25 GMT -5
I saw an article on Casual Hoya where his Coach and former Hoya Owens thought his comp was Jeff Green. That would be fine too. ;-) DJ's comp was not so much in player's style, but in their impact upon the program. DJ believes that Josh will be the best defensive player on the Hoyas from day one, but will need alot of work on his offensive game and probably won't start as a result. He will develop into a highly impactful player that can become the center of the resurgence of the program, just as Jeff Green was. At this stage, Green was further along offensively. We haven't seen this type of athletic defense in the program in quite some time. I am not really dampening your enthusiasm, just clarifying DJ's comparison.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 13, 2018 17:06:28 GMT -5
McClung and LeBlanc start. Johnson to bench. That is what I see too.
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Post by bigskyhoya on Mar 13, 2018 17:16:40 GMT -5
McClung and LeBlanc start. Johnson to bench. That is what I see too. I hope you are right.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 13, 2018 18:52:02 GMT -5
LeBlanc starting by BE anyway. If not, it means Johnson has stepped it up. I just don’t see it at this point. Mosely also needs to work.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 14, 2018 2:35:00 GMT -5
I saw an article on Casual Hoya where his Coach and former Hoya Owens thought his comp was Jeff Green. That would be fine too. ;-) DJ's comp was not so much in player's style, but in their impact upon the program. DJ believes that Josh will be the best defensive player on the Hoyas from day one, but will need alot of work on his offensive game and probably won't start as a result. He will develop into a highly impactful player that can become the center of the resurgence of the program, just as Jeff Green was. At this stage, Green was further along offensively. We haven't seen this type of athletic defense in the program in quite some time. Owens didn't claim his issues on offense would keep him from starting so that must be your opinion then. If so my counter would be that next season the Hoyas should have three guys who should be comfortably averaging double figures (two of them averaged about 17 points this season). If they have a fourth guy at the pg spot who is also a threat to score then points from Josh won't be a necessity. He can get his scoring off of missed shots and fastbreaks. If he develops enough throughout the season to be capable of hitting open jumpers and driving to the hole that will be a bonus. His main contribution however will be on defense and rebounding.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 14, 2018 6:06:54 GMT -5
LeBlanc starting by BE anyway. If not, it means Johnson has stepped it up. I just don’t see it at this point. Mosely also needs to work. Kaleb I think also has to worry about Walker. Walker was out of position on defense and fouled too much but that's all freshman stuff. The one thing we saw is, he's physical and can shoot. Should be a great competition for frontcourt minutes.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Mar 14, 2018 6:50:11 GMT -5
DJ's comp was not so much in player's style, but in their impact upon the program. DJ believes that Josh will be the best defensive player on the Hoyas from day one, but will need alot of work on his offensive game and probably won't start as a result. He will develop into a highly impactful player that can become the center of the resurgence of the program, just as Jeff Green was. At this stage, Green was further along offensively. We haven't seen this type of athletic defense in the program in quite some time. Owens didn't claim his issues on offense would keep him from starting so that must be your opinion then. If so my counter would be that next season the Hoyas should have three guys who should be comfortably averaging double figures (two of them averaged about 17 points this season). If they have a fourth guy at the pg spot who is also a threat to score then points from Josh won't be a necessity. He can get his scoring off of missed shots and fastbreaks. If he develops enough throughout the season to be capable of hitting open jumpers and driving to the hole that will be a bonus. His main contribution however will be on defense and rebounding. You are certainly correct that It is not represented in the main post — the quote CH uses.. But DJ’s comments on Facebook extended beyond that. He has been involved in quite a few conversations about the current team and Josh’s place in it. So I am conveying what he has said in those conversations. You all may be right and Josh will start. I am a little leery of the expectations this board is placing on the incoming freshmen, particularly Josh and Mac. It takes a while for most freshmen to adjust to college systems. (See Pickett, Walker, and Blair) We are not going to improve without the current players making a leap. We won’t know who will make that leap, but there is almost always a surprise. To me the ideal team is one where every player contributes and is valued for it.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 14, 2018 9:08:15 GMT -5
Mac and Josh need to start because our current roster has some gaping holes. Yes, there will be growing pains. Both are freak athletes and that is something you are or aren’t.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 14, 2018 10:00:27 GMT -5
Mac and Josh need to start because our current roster has some gaping holes. Yes, there will be growing pains. Both are freak athletes and that is something you are or aren’t. Maybe they will. Ewing will determine this when practice starts. Be nice to see the alley oops on a consistent basis. Should be roommates would help as well.
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Post by hoyalaw33 on Mar 14, 2018 13:38:53 GMT -5
I think people are underestimating Leblanc because of the foot injury causing him to miss his high school season. Dude was Defensive POY on the AAU circuit and is a freak on defense. And this isn't playing Gate City equivalent competition, Leblanc has gone head to head against many 5* players and have put the clamps down. Go back and check out some tapes of his AAU game last summer. I was through the roof when we beat out LSU and A&M to get Josh and I think he's going to be a monster from Day 1. Kaleb struggles to finish because of athleticism, but he gets so many open looks on cuts because of Govan/Derrickson being doubled. Leblanc will finish those opportunities next year. 9-11 ppg and 2 bpg. Mark it down.
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Post by beenaround on Mar 14, 2018 15:11:22 GMT -5
Glad to hear about LeBlanc. Not that starting is all that important, per se....but where would he start, assuming the return of Jessie, Marcus and Pickett?
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 14, 2018 15:14:58 GMT -5
Glad to hear about LeBlanc. Not that starting is all that important, per se....but where would he start, assuming the return of Jessie, Marcus and Pickett? Presumably, he'd start over Kaleb at the 3.
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Post by blazers44 on Mar 14, 2018 15:31:34 GMT -5
Pickett is at the 3. Kaleb gonna have to come off the bench next yr. Imo
We had hard a time creating off the bounce this yr. Especially when that shot clock was winding down...
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 14, 2018 15:44:49 GMT -5
Pickett is at the 3. Kaleb gonna have to come off the bench next yr. Imo We had hard a time creating off the bounce this yr. Especially when that shot clock was winding down... Pickett might be the 2 and better be working on those ball-handling, post-up moves, and defensive skills.
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Post by blazers44 on Mar 14, 2018 16:51:13 GMT -5
Doubt that. Pickett can barely handle the against other sf. Don't think ewing would feel comfortable playing him against smaller quicker guards.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 14, 2018 17:38:57 GMT -5
Doubt that. Pickett can barely handle the against other sf. Don't think ewing would feel comfortable playing him against smaller quicker guards. That was one of my biggest complaints last year. When guarded by someone smaller, go post up and demand the ball. When you have the ball and see that someone has a mismatch, get them the ball.
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Post by bornhoya on Mar 14, 2018 19:40:00 GMT -5
Doubt that. Pickett can barely handle the against other sf. Don't think ewing would feel comfortable playing him against smaller quicker guards. Pickett’s handle got way better from beginning of the season to the end
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Post by blazers44 on Mar 14, 2018 20:45:11 GMT -5
I agree but not good enough to handle constant full court pressure against 5'11-6'5 guards. He is a small forward. He also would not be able to guard them in open space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 12:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 15, 2018 12:43:21 GMT -5
Doubt that. Pickett can barely handle the against other sf. Don't think ewing would feel comfortable playing him against smaller quicker guards. Hold up. So was Johnson looking comfortable against quicker guards or any players at all for that matter? I don't believe so. But one of them, Johnson or Pickett, was starting at the two guard this season. I expect Pickett to get that gig again next year.
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