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Post by hoyainla on May 7, 2018 17:27:23 GMT -5
Mac is a competitor but he doesn't have that beast in him that James does. I talked to a few guys after the BIL game and one said it best. James is a bull. Mac gets beat and he backs off a bit to not get beat again. James will come at you even harder the next time. Maybe but context is everything though. Mac is the one in whom film crews are following. He is the one whom they approach after the scrimmage asking questions like “what happened?”. Akinjo isn’t getting that type of pub/pressure for better or worse. It may not have made a difference to Akinjo even if he had anyway but still McClung is in a different situation. Deep down many people were likely still expecting/anticipating him being exposed as not being worthy of participating in these events, some sort of pretender. And there is no way faster of popular opinion turning on you quicker on social media than looking like a fool (Shaquing-a-fool) on defense, being faked out in a manner that will be repeated in loops on YouTube and Twitter. Not saying that I can confirm McClung was thinking all of that but it is a possibility. If Akinjo got beat badly its no big deal so far as social media is concerned because far less people know who he is. So McClung just needed to compete, measure himself against top shelf players, get out with his rep still intact and use the experience as a means to get better. I understand your line of thinking and don't necessarily disagree, but I did not make my statement based on just the BIL game. It will be interesting to see how Mac responds here for the reasons you stated. He's a flashy type player and that has led his star to shine bright. Will Mac feel the pressure to keep doing those things here? Will Pat allow him to get away with this stuff if it leads to a turnover?
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Post by hoyainla on May 7, 2018 17:35:03 GMT -5
IMO, depending on the final roster, but as is, Mac goes for 12 ppg and James goes for 10 ppg next year. I was going to save my what does everyone predict for ppg for next year but since you brought it up I will simply say if Mac gets 12 and James gets 10 you must think we will be scoring 90+ ppg assuming Jesse comes back.
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Post by prhoya on May 7, 2018 17:49:54 GMT -5
IMO, depending on the final roster, but as is, Mac goes for 12 ppg and James goes for 10 ppg next year. I was going to save my what does everyone predict for ppg for next year but since you brought it up I will simply say if Mac gets 12 and James gets 10 you must think we will be scoring 90+ ppg assuming Jesse comes back. We were 7th at 78 ppg in conference. I think we will move up to top four which puts us above 80 ppg: www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/avgPoints/seasontype/2/group/4Looking at the link's info, we need to shoot a lot more 3s. We were last in BE 3FGA. More 3s, more steals, better defense, more penetration, more FTs, more aggressive athletic players, better finishers, better fast-break players... we'll score more than last year... that is, if the roster stays as is.
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Post by hoyainla on May 7, 2018 18:13:13 GMT -5
More 3s, more steals, better defense, more penetration, more FTs, more aggressive athletic players, better finishers, better fast-break players I agree we need to all of these things!!
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 7, 2018 21:21:45 GMT -5
I think we score more next year as we are built for speed. The key metric may be assists per game for McClung and Akinjo.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 22:40:37 GMT -5
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Post by jester on May 8, 2018 1:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by SaxaCD on May 8, 2018 2:16:01 GMT -5
Hahaha, next time watch the whole game. We shall see, but I love all the motivation he will have!
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 8, 2018 2:16:58 GMT -5
Hey, everyone! The guy who though Mac couldn't compete at the D1 level now knows the exact subtlety of a player's personality -- Mac is a guy who backs down from a challenge! Now he's the guy who not only doesn't think he has the physical tools also doesn't think he has the mental tools!
Way to double down, hoyainla!
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Post by MCIGuy on May 8, 2018 4:59:27 GMT -5
This was easily the most negative thing I came across on twitter regarding McClung's showing during the BIL weekend. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm not denying credibility, but I found it curious that the dude started off talking about "Scouts" and used the verb "continue" indicating that he meant a plurality. Then instantly with followup sentences The Culture starts referring to a singular "he" when relaying the criticism that he had heard. So what was it? More than one "scout" or just one? Could "Scouts" be the nickname of the person providing the opinion? Is he tied to high school evaluation sites, college expertise blogs or the NBA? I wish more info had been provided but then again I always do, whether the info is negative or positive.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 5:21:56 GMT -5
I wonder if the “Scouts” watched any Hoya games last year? If so he/she/them are giving a lot of cred to a talent level that went 5-13 in the BE. Also, I immediately dismiss the credibility of anyone who spells the school “GeorgeTown” ...
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on May 8, 2018 6:19:53 GMT -5
I wonder if the “Scouts” watched any Hoya games last year? If so he/she/them are giving a lot of cred to a talent level that went 5-13 in the BE. Also, I immediately dismiss the credibility of anyone who spells the school “GeorgeTown” ... The scouting report is noted by his 125 twitter followers. Not sure that even qualifies as a "The Subculture."
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Post by hoyainla on May 8, 2018 6:47:50 GMT -5
Hey, everyone! The guy who though Mac couldn't compete at the D1 level now knows the exact subtlety of a player's personality -- Mac is a guy who backs down from a challenge! Now he's the guy who not only doesn't think he has the physical tools also doesn't think he has the mental tools! Way to double down, hoyainla! I never said he couldn't play at the D1 level. I said he is not a high level D1 level PG right now. I honestly don't think he will ever be one but he could be in 3-4 years. I think most people on the board think he's a BE level PG right now and I don't see it. I think he is best served as an off guard that can handle the ball when needed. His 1 on 1 D scares me more than anything right now. Nothing I saw during the all star game weeks changed that. As I have said multiple times and you read all of them clearly. I think he can grow into a good solid player down the road. In my view people think he's at that level already because they focus on the good while completely ignoring the bad. He's clearly going to play next year and he will do things that fans love. He's a highlight machine. He's going to get beat of the dribble a ton and some of those times he will make a huge block and everyone will be pumped. I'm more worried about all the other times. I don't think he will be very efficient on the offensive end in the half court either. I don't think fans really care about that though as long as he gets points and dunks though. I didn't say he backs down from a challenge I said he does things to ensure he won't repeatedly look bad. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just said that is not the mindset James has. This is just one example of what I mean to better get my point across. I have seen it play out in real games many times but I think this breaks it down better. When he played Bone Collector he got beat badly but made up for it and got the block. Bone wanted another go at him but Mac was smart enough to get out while he was ahead probably knowing the next time it wouldn't end the same. Bone would've embarrassed most of the kids there. James would've D'd up Bone until they cut the gym lights off no matter what happened. Those comparing his D level and intensity to James are looking through some really Mac shaded glasses. That's not saying Mac is not a competitor or that there is anything wrong with him. James is one of the most intense guys I've seen at the HS level.
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Post by hoyainla on May 8, 2018 6:54:04 GMT -5
Hahaha, next time watch the whole game. We shall see, but I love all the motivation he will have! No that account is not mind and I'm not the scout he talked to no matter what SFHoya will lead you to believe. That being said I do agree with most of it except the won't play part. No way Pat keeps Mac on the bench no matter what. I also don't think Mac will get motivation from that guy with 125 followers or from me either.
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Post by hoyainla on May 8, 2018 6:59:18 GMT -5
I will also not a lot of my "bad" Mac posts were before James came on board and most on here thought Mac was going to step right in and PG the team for 30+ minutes next year. James saves Mac from playing of out position and will help him greatly. From that aspect disaster was averted.
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Post by smokeyjack on May 8, 2018 6:59:19 GMT -5
Not sure what HoyainLA said, but as one who devoured every second of the BIL game, here’s what I’d say regarding the game, Mac, Akinjo, etc.: 1. Game was pretty lousy from a defensive standpoint, even by all star game standards.
2. The guys who dominated the game Little, Big Naz are full grown one-and-done men. Love Mac and Akinjo, but physically, they are not that and probably won’t ever be due to pure size. That’s fine, because you can win big in college with 4-year guys.
3. The demarcation noted between the highest tier in attendance and others, Mac and Akinjo clearly “belonged” in the group. Both dudes can play.
4. Akinjo, as advertised, is a very good-to-excellent defender who really jumped out on a court full of guys throwing lobs to each other off the backboard. His handles are also as good as advertised. He needs work as a finisher. Gets to the rim and doesn’t finish. But I do think he will be an unreal Hoya and change the culture with his intensity.
5. Mac also stood out. Played very within his bag given the show-out antics going on around him, which honestly impressed the hell out of me. He’s a very good pure scorer who can get to the rim or line almost at will and can shoot better than advertised. Interestingly, there were probably six mid-range shots taken the entire game in a festival that was defined by dunks and triples. Our two Hoyas went 5-5 by my count on their contribution to those mid-range shots. Very heartening, while also both bombing in 3s and getting to rim.
6. Issue I saw with Mac is defense, and it looked pretty deficient on Saturday night, albeit against some of the best frosh talent in the country. He was pretty much blown by at will be everyone he guarded. Don’t know if that was truly indicative of his skills or just the nature of the game, but he looked very average on that end of the floor.
7. I do think it’s worth noting that when Elite coach wanted to win in last 5 and OT, he had both future Hoyas on the floor.
8. I actually love both kids. I think they’ll be great and they clearly both have the games to be major impact performers (they will be the two best guards we have from Day 1) at GU. I am really looking forward to seeing how they mesh together, because I think that could be very interesting. Probably reading too much into this as well, but there was ZERO interchange between them on the court Saturday night. Could be because they are both all business. Could be an Alpha thing, which isn’t necessarily bad.
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Post by SaxaCD on May 8, 2018 7:18:32 GMT -5
Not sure what HoyainLA said, but as one who devoured every second of the BIL game, here’s what I’d say regarding the game, Mac, Akinjo, etc.: 1. Game was pretty lousy from a defensive standpoint, even by all star game standards. 2. The guys who dominated the game Little, Big Naz are full grown one-and-done men. Love Mac and Akinjo, but physically, they are not that and probably won’t ever be due to pure size. That’s fine, because you can win big in college with 4-year guys. 3. The demarcation noted between the highest tier in attendance and others, Mac and Akinjo clearly “belonged” in the group. Both dudes can play. 4. Akinjo, as advertised, is a very good-to-excellent defender who really jumped out on a court full of guys throwing lobs to each other off the backboard. His handles are also as good as advertised. He needs work as a finisher. Gets to the rim and doesn’t finish. But I do think he will be an unreal Hoya and change the culture with his intensity. 5. Mac also stood out. Played very within his bag given the show-out antics going on around him, which honestly impressed the hell out of me. He’s a very good pure scorer who can get to the rim or line almost at will and can shoot better than advertised. Interestingly, there were probably six mid-range shots taken the entire game in a festival that was defined by dunks and triples. Our two Hoyas went 5-5 by my count on their contribution to those mid-range shots. Very heartening, while also both bombing in 3s and getting to rim. 6. Issue I saw with Mac is defense, and it looked pretty deficient on Saturday night, albeit against some of the best frosh talent in the country. He was pretty much blown by at will be everyone he guarded. Don’t know if that was truly indicative of his skills or just the nature of the game, but he looked very average on that end of the floor. 7. I do think it’s worth noting that when Elite coach wanted to win in last 5 and OT, he had both future Hoyas on the floor. 8. I actually love both kids. I think they’ll be great and they clearly both have the games to be major impact performers (they will be the two best guards we have from Day 1) at GU. I am really looking forward to seeing how they mesh together, because I think that could be very interesting. Probably reading too much into this as well, but there was ZERO interchange between them on the court Saturday night. Could be because they are both all business. Could be an Alpha thing, which isn’t necessarily bad. I saw them nodding to each oth/interacting at least twice to acknowledge plays each had made. Was very low key, but looked genuine, just all business.
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Post by TC on May 8, 2018 7:33:53 GMT -5
6. Issue I saw with Mac is defense, and it looked pretty deficient on Saturday night, albeit against some of the best frosh talent in the country. He was pretty much blown by at will be everyone he guarded. Don’t know if that was truly indicative of his skills or just the nature of the game, but he looked very average on that end of the floor. Did you watch the 1 on 1 video? From watching that it certainly seemed like he has the ability to stay in front of people. I haven't seen one person questioning whether Akinjo can get his shot off after watching McClung swat him three or four times in that video - that's the level of absurd judgement and nitpicking that's going on here on McClung (btw I think Akinjo can get his shot off just fine) : It hasn't even been a month we saw him break down Quinerly in a scrimmage where he was the one going the hardest on both ends of the floor and people want to make crazy judgements based on an all star game, and the loudest naysayer on the board wants to judge whether he has "beast" or not. Did he have "beast in him" when he was stripping Quinerly, intercepting his passes, blowing by Quinerly, and throwing passes to Quinerly's man?
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Post by MCIGuy on May 8, 2018 7:49:34 GMT -5
Hoyainla's take on Mac brings back memories of Ignatius and Hibbert. 😁
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Post by SaxaCD on May 8, 2018 7:57:09 GMT -5
Hoyainla's take on Mac brings back memories of Ignatius and Hibbert. 😁 You brought back memories and cracked me up with that one, MCI!
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