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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 25, 2017 22:09:06 GMT -5
I think it's time this coach breaks the Georgetown mold of the Thompson era and enter this century. Communicate directly to the recruits, the fanbase and all others that this program is back and not a tired old school program that won't break its ways. Forget that Sports Information group that was antiquated in the 80's.
He's got more credibility in college coaching in terms of taking a kid in high school with NBA aspirations and making things happen in terms of his experience, his connections and his legacy. Continuing to just hand that to Calipari and others has always bothered me especially when I consider it next to our new coach. Our old coach I got it because he had no fire. Let Big John step aside and stop advising and take the reigns off this thing. It's not that hard and if we don't exploit the NBA connections early then I think we lose that.
Let this fanbase tell me I'm wrong and continue to tell us we should continue to accept this garbage but we made a big move now let's exploit it. It's not that hard when just a few recruits can turn an entire program. Have some damn confidence Hoya fans, come out of your holes and rise up.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 25, 2017 22:59:05 GMT -5
I think it's time this coach breaks the Georgetown mold of the Thompson era and enter this century. Communicate directly to the recruits, the fanbase and all others that this program is back and not a tired old school program that won't break its ways. Forget that Sports Information group that was antiquated in the 80's. He's got more credibility in college coaching in terms of taking a kid in high school with NBA aspirations and making things happen in terms of his experience, his connections and his legacy. Continuing to just hand that to Calipari and others has always bothered me especially when I consider it next to our new coach. Our old coach I got it because he had no fire. Let Big John step aside and stop advising and take the reigns off this thing. It's not that hard and if we don't exploit the NBA connections early then I think we lose that. Let this fanbase tell me I'm wrong and continue to tell us we should continue to accept this garbage but we made a big move now let's exploit it. It's not that hard when just a few recruits can turn an entire program. Have some damn confidence Hoya fans, come out of your holes and rise up. I do think that Ewing has done a good job of communicating more directly with the fan base, by speaking more to media, allowing recruits to post to social media with videos of their visits, and by doing things like showing up in the cafeteria and taking photos with students. I agree that Ewing needs to be his own man and not influenced significantly by John Thompson Jr., unless Ewing wants him to be involved. But, he should not be a regular at practices and he should not be calling any shots. But, he can still be a good representative of the university, and I expect he will continue in that role. As far as, "He's got more credibility in college coaching in terms of taking a kid in high school with NBA aspirations and making things happen in terms of his experience, his connections and his legacy," I think you're overstating things, at best. For all of his faults, Calipari has a track record of getting guys into the NBA. Ewing basically has no coaching record aside from being an NBA assistant (hard to tell what that will mean at the college level), he has no record recruiting, and he has no experience as a head coach. In that context, right now, Ewing is not as well positioned as many other coaches who have already demonstrated success. I am cautiously optimistic that he will prove himself capable at this level, but it's up to him to prove that. As far as "accepting this garbage" I really don't know what you mean. Ewing hasn't coached a single game yet. It's way too premature to be making any conclusions on the program anytime soon. And we are likely going to be awful no matter what he does this year, so we need to give him time. |
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 25, 2017 23:13:54 GMT -5
You are the guy I'm talking about, Hoyanaysayer (change your handle as I think it's still available). Credibility can be quickly turned when a PE tells a recruit about what he knows about the league and the connections he has. Calipari shouldn't own that as he's largely not liked by anyone in the NBA for how he conducts his business. If you want to shake things up this is the time. Stop apologizing for what we are and let's create some momentum.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 26, 2017 7:00:00 GMT -5
Ewing should have the chance to put his own mold on the program, but he should be cautious about abandoning the careful and conservative posture the University wisely has taken toward running its basketball program. There is considerable wisdom to that approach.
While none of our former coaches have been perfect- III, Esh, and even Big John- lack of fire, or effort, has not been a problem for any of them. All of those men were professionals who worked their fingers to the bone for GU and do not deserve to be the subject of unwarranted potshots.
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Post by tashoya on May 26, 2017 8:00:52 GMT -5
Welcome back, eagle.
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Post by swhoya on May 26, 2017 8:09:24 GMT -5
I'd suggest use of the block function for hoyaresurrection. So far he's managed to insult high school kids and people that have put their heart and soul into this program. It's not worth your time.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 26, 2017 8:48:07 GMT -5
I think it's time this coach breaks the Georgetown mold of the Thompson era and enter this century. Communicate directly to the recruits, the fanbase and all others that this program is back and not a tired old school program that won't break its ways. Forget that Sports Information group that was antiquated in the 80's. This approach makes two assumptions: 1) "this program is back" and 2) "Forget that Sports Information group that was antiquated in the 80's." 1. This program is not "back", at least not yet. Six weeks of a new coach and two late signings of Top 200 recruits do not a program make. Want to get back? Win. Win with integrity, and win with authority. Don't cut corners. This team is a combined 12-23 over the last two seasons in Big East play and that's not likely to change without progress in recruiting and progress on the court. 2. This isn't your father's Sports Information office. Mex and his team are among the best in the business, and people in the business get that. But if you think that sports publicity is passe in the era of Snapchat, you're missing the point. Sports Information is not about recruiting and it's not about promotion, it's about the working press, however that's defined. It's not about keeping message boards informed. |
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 26, 2017 8:51:59 GMT -5
I think it's time this coach breaks the Georgetown mold of the Thompson era and enter this century. Communicate directly to the recruits, the fanbase and all others that this program is back and not a tired old school program that won't break its ways. Forget that Sports Information group that was antiquated in the 80's. He's got more credibility in college coaching in terms of taking a kid in high school with NBA aspirations and making things happen in terms of his experience, his connections and his legacy. Continuing to just hand that to Calipari and others has always bothered me especially when I consider it next to our new coach. Our old coach I got it because he had no fire. Let Big John step aside and stop advising and take the reigns off this thing. It's not that hard and if we don't exploit the NBA connections early then I think we lose that. Let this fanbase tell me I'm wrong and continue to tell us we should continue to accept this garbage but we made a big move now let's exploit it. It's not that hard when just a few recruits can turn an entire program. Have some damn confidence Hoya fans, come out of your holes and rise up. What are you talking about? |
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Post by guru on May 26, 2017 12:17:14 GMT -5
I'd suggest use of the block function for hoyaresurrection. So far he's managed to insult high school kids and people that have put their heart and soul into this program. It's not worth your time. Ha. It's like whack-a-mole with sock puppets! |
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 26, 2017 21:08:06 GMT -5
I'd suggest use of the block function for hoyaresurrection. So far he's managed to insult high school kids and people that have put their heart and soul into this program. It's not worth your time. How did I insult high school kids and people that put their heart and soul into this program? If you critique one or two people for their actions you can't insult an entire class that would claim high school kid status or people that put their hear and soul into the program can you? |
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Post by tashoya on May 26, 2017 21:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by TC on May 26, 2017 22:45:46 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 26, 2017 23:16:32 GMT -5
I'm new to here so not sure what these posts are. Can we discuss the issues without the fancy pictures? Very confusing from a base that should care a bit more about getting it right after several years of flushing our seasons profusely down the drain and acting like it didn't matter.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 27, 2017 0:12:00 GMT -5
I'm new to here so not sure what these posts are. Can we discuss the issues without the fancy pictures? Very confusing from a base that should care a bit more about getting it right after several years of flushing our seasons profusely down the drain and acting like it didn't matter. You say you are new here, yet you said above that you were specifically aiming your post at me? I am not sure how you could do that if you were new here. I think tashoya is on the right track. eagle54 was last here March 15, and hoyaresurrection created his account 10 days later. Hmmmm. You are the guy I'm talking about, Hoyanaysayer (change your handle as I think it's still available). Credibility can be quickly turned when a PE tells a recruit about what he knows about the league and the connections he has. Calipari shouldn't own that as he's largely not liked by anyone in the NBA for how he conducts his business. If you want to shake things up this is the time. Stop apologizing for what we are and let's create some momentum. We did shake things up with a new coach. I haven't apologized "for who we are." Right now, we are a bad basketball team with a brand new unproven coach who was a hall of fame NBA player and NBA assistant. That does count for something. And that's why Ewing was a better choice than some of the other names thrown about (like Amaker). That's not apologizing for anything, it's recognizing the position we are now in. Whenever you fire a coach, you almost always take a step back before taking a step forward because of the tumultuous nature of coaching changes. To your point, I think we all agree that we want to see a program that's more successful; that's why certain fans were beating the drum for a new coach, and they got exactly what they wanted (well, maybe not exactly, but the coach they didn't want is no longer here, at the very least). I just don't see any point to this type of post less than two months into Ewing's new job. The guy hasn't even coached a game yet. There is no apologizing happening here by anyone with regard to Ewing and the program. Heck, he's been the coach such a short time, there's nothing to even be an apologist for! |
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Post by tashoya on May 27, 2017 0:15:55 GMT -5
I'm new to here so not sure what these posts are. Can we discuss the issues without the fancy pictures? Very confusing from a base that should care a bit more about getting it right after several years of flushing our seasons profusely down the drain and acting like it didn't matter. Who's acting like it didn't matter? You said yourself that you didn't understand the posts and then equated that with not caring. You didn't get the joke. It may be that most of us have been here discussing "the issues" for quite a while before you got here. |
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Post by This Just In on May 27, 2017 3:49:43 GMT -5
I'm new to here so not sure what these posts are. Can we discuss the issues without the fancy pictures? Very confusing from a base that should care a bit more about getting it right after several years of flushing our seasons profusely down the drain and acting like it didn't matter. Welcome to the board hoyaresurrection.... Ewing has about a 3 year window before the pitch forks and torches come for him. Hopefully your name will resonate with the program and get us back onto the winning the track. I am hopeful that in the upcoming season Ewing will be able to get the team out of the 9th spot in the BE. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 27, 2017 6:54:36 GMT -5
Everything old is new again. Welcome back. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 27, 2017 6:55:53 GMT -5
I'm new to here so not sure what these posts are. Can we discuss the issues without the fancy pictures? Very confusing from a base that should care a bit more about getting it right after several years of flushing our seasons profusely down the drain and acting like it didn't matter. Welcome to the board hoyaresurrection.... Ewing has about a 3 year window before the pitch forks and torches come for him. Hopefully your name will resonate with the program and get us back onto the winning the track. I am hopeful that in the upcoming season Ewing will be able to get the team out of the 9th spot in the BE. Rest easy old friend. You have found the answer to your profile question. |
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Post by krukster201 on May 27, 2017 6:55:58 GMT -5
OH GOD... please don't tell me that EAGLE dude is back
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Post by Elvado on May 27, 2017 8:00:41 GMT -5
If it would mean a return to winning basketball, I'd gladly suffer an Eagle, a hifi and a dose of reality....
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