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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jul 28, 2017 16:27:51 GMT -5
1) Pickett will be a starter and 30 min per game candidate from day one of practice. We had to throw the kitchen sink to get him away from Maryland. He's not sitting.
2) Juggy is being very undervalued thus far. IMO, he's one of our best five players. He and Pickett both have potential to be very good college basketball players. Pickett has a chance to be a first round pick, if Pat can develop him.
3) I think Jagan can play the point. And I think, more importantly, he's the kind of defender that we need at the point.
4) I think a lot of projections I've seen show deference to the veterans. We have a new coach, new staff. There will be no deference shown
PG - Jagan SG - Jahvon Blair SF - Pickett PF - Derrickson C - Govan
2nd unit PG - Trey Dickerson SG - Mulmore SF - Johnson PF - Walker C - Sodom/Mourning
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 28, 2017 20:19:24 GMT -5
1) Pickett will be a starter and 30 min per game candidate from day one of practice. We had to throw the kitchen sink to get him away from Maryland. He's not sitting. 2) Juggy is being very undervalued thus far. IMO, he's one of our best five players. He and Pickett both have potential to be very good college basketball players. Pickett has a chance to be a first round pick, if Pat can develop him. 3) I think Jagan can play the point. And I think, more importantly, he's the kind of defender that we need at the point. 4) I think a lot of projections I've seen show deference to the veterans. We have a new coach, new staff. There will be no deference shown PG - Jagan SG - Jahvon Blair SF - Pickett PF - Derrickson C - Govan 2nd unit PG - Trey Dickerson SG - Mulmore SF - Johnson PF - Walker C - Sodom/Mourning Looks pretty on point daytona, although I certainly think there will be competition most of the season for some of the starting spots.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 28, 2017 21:10:31 GMT -5
1) Pickett will be a starter and 30 min per game candidate from day one of practice. We had to throw the kitchen sink to get him away from Maryland. He's not sitting. 2) Juggy is being very undervalued thus far. IMO, he's one of our best five players. He and Pickett both have potential to be very good college basketball players. Pickett has a chance to be a first round pick, if Pat can develop him. 3) I think Jagan can play the point. And I think, more importantly, he's the kind of defender that we need at the point. 4) I think a lot of projections I've seen show deference to the veterans. We have a new coach, new staff. There will be no deference shown PG - Jagan SG - Jahvon Blair SF - Pickett PF - Derrickson C - Govan 2nd unit PG - Trey Dickerson SG - Mulmore SF - Johnson PF - Walker C - Sodom/Mourning This!
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jul 28, 2017 21:53:24 GMT -5
1) Pickett will be a starter and 30 min per game candidate from day one of practice. We had to throw the kitchen sink to get him away from Maryland. He's not sitting. 2) Juggy is being very undervalued thus far. IMO, he's one of our best five players. He and Pickett both have potential to be very good college basketball players. Pickett has a chance to be a first round pick, if Pat can develop him. 3) I think Jagan can play the point. And I think, more importantly, he's the kind of defender that we need at the point. 4) I think a lot of projections I've seen show deference to the veterans. We have a new coach, new staff. There will be no deference shown PG - Jagan SG - Jahvon Blair SF - Pickett PF - Derrickson C - Govan 2nd unit PG - Trey Dickerson SG - Mulmore SF - Johnson PF - Walker C - Sodom/Mourning This! Agreed with Dickerson having a shot at starting if he proves he can push the ball and not be a "volume shooter."
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 29, 2017 1:11:59 GMT -5
We need someone who can get into the lane and create opportunities for our bigs. I think Jagan and Juggy are best suited for that. I also like the length we are going to have with this 5.....no one under 6'4". We've got the length to play zone.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 29, 2017 9:20:32 GMT -5
We need someone who can get into the lane and create opportunities for our bigs. I think Jagan and Juggy are best suited for that. I also like the length we are going to have with this 5.....no one under 6'4". We've got the length to play zone. Good point - although I hope our man defense is better than last season too.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 29, 2017 13:41:24 GMT -5
We will miss LJ for sure. I like Pickett's length and think he'll be more effective on D than Pryor.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 29, 2017 14:31:34 GMT -5
We will miss LJ for sure. I like Pickett's length and think he'll be more effective on D than Pryor. That shouldn't be too difficult. Defense was definitely not Pryor's strength.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 29, 2017 14:39:28 GMT -5
Style of play has to be taken into consideration when deciding on lineups. Ewing has stated that he wants to play an NBA style offense. I don't think that has been given proper consideration when posting the starters and rotation.
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Post by hoyalaw33 on Jul 29, 2017 15:20:39 GMT -5
I think everyone here is tending to underestimate Walker as he has been committed for quite some time now and we didn't hear much about his time @hargrave. Have a cousin who played AAU with him and said he is an absolute animal. Just needs to bulk up and I think he can be a very, very good 4 year player for us. Think Dajuan Summers lite
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Post by dchoya72 on Jul 29, 2017 18:58:56 GMT -5
I think we have an excellent team of athletes to begin Patrick Ewing's era as a basketball coach. Who knows maybe we could add another bull to the team before the semester kicks off, but I'm quite impressed with what the coaches have been able to attract so far. Congratulations coaches.
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Post by aristides on Jul 30, 2017 20:14:58 GMT -5
Think I'd like to see Mosely and Johnson in the backcourt with Pickett, Derrickson, and Govan in the front court. I'm betting Johnson earns a starting spot this year.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 30, 2017 20:44:46 GMT -5
I think we have an excellent team of athletes to begin Patrick Ewing's era as a basketball coach. Who knows maybe we could add another bull to the team before the semester kicks off, but I'm quite impressed with what the coaches have been able to attract so far. Congratulations coaches. Agreed. I think we are good enough to be dangerous and knock off a couple of top 20 teams this year. Hopefully we'll also play with more energy and passion as well. Thanks.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 31, 2017 9:28:30 GMT -5
Think I'd like to see Mosely and Johnson in the backcourt with Pickett, Derrickson, and Govan in the front court. I'm betting Johnson earns a starting spot this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the absolute best 5 weren't all starters. If Pat uses NBA and JT2 as templates, we could see more wave substitutions, so he might want to balance things out a bit so our second team could do some damage. That strategy would only work if the first team holds their own to start, but I could see him going that way.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 31, 2017 12:57:43 GMT -5
Think I'd like to see Mosely and Johnson in the backcourt with Pickett, Derrickson, and Govan in the front court. I'm betting Johnson earns a starting spot this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the absolute best 5 weren't all starters. If Pat uses NBA and JT2 as templates, we could see more wave substitutions, so he might want to balance things out a bit so our second team could do some damage. That strategy would only work if the first team holds their own to start, but I could see him going that way. My feeling is that if we have any chance to be competitive this year (i.e., not in 9th or 10th place in the Big East), we cannot possibly do full-on wave substitutions. While it's not clear who our best five players are this year, I think our 5 best players are likely to be much, much, better than the next group of 5. In that sense, you really need your best players getting most of the minutes. People always want broad rotations and criticized JT3 for it at times (though the last couple of seasons he played a pretty big roster), but I would rather do well with a smaller rotation than have a bigger one and lose more games. Of course, if it gets to the point where we aren't competitive, and have no shot at the NCAA tournament, then pretty much anything is fine.
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Post by mapei on Jul 31, 2017 17:00:18 GMT -5
The thing that worries me the most about our (lack of) depth is that we don't have a backup center. That's a foul-prone position and Sodom appears far from ready. I feel like aristides' starters, backed up by Mulmore-Walker-Dickerson is pretty decent otherwise.
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Post by vv83 on Jul 31, 2017 19:48:45 GMT -5
The thing that worries me the most about our (lack of) depth is that we don't have a backup center. That's a foul-prone position and Sodom appears far from ready. I feel like aristides' starters, backed up by Mulmore-Walker-Dickerson is pretty decent otherwise. Agree completely on the backup center situation. and if Jess gets hurt, we are really in trouble. Sodom might be able to play a few minutes of decent D, but he is an offensive zero right now. We'll need someone else to be the primary backup center for 10-15 minutes a game. Jesse's play really declines when he gets tired, we can't ask him to play more than 25-30 minutes a game without really compromising his potential performance maybe mourning can help if he gets healthy. Biut even at his best, Mourning has not provided a lot of evidence that he can be a regular rotation player at a BE level. He plays hard, he has some skills. But he is a below average athlete for this level. My guess - Derrickson ends up getting some regular time at the 5 in small ball lineups. A front line of Marcus-Pickett-Walker could potentiall work for 10 minutes a game without completely wearing down Marcus. That lineup would actually be quite good offensively, but powerful low post centers would be a problem. Fortunately, that kind of player is sort of a dying breed in modern basketball! To get our best players on the court as much as possible, and to address our lack of depth at the 5 - I think we'll need to play some small ball on a regular basis this year.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 1, 2017 10:44:33 GMT -5
The thing that worries me the most about our (lack of) depth is that we don't have a backup center. That's a foul-prone position and Sodom appears far from ready. I feel like aristides' starters, backed up by Mulmore-Walker-Dickerson is pretty decent otherwise. Agree completely on the backup center situation. and if Jess gets hurt, we are really in trouble. Sodom might be able to play a few minutes of decent D, but he is an offensive zero right now. We'll need someone else to be the primary backup center for 10-15 minutes a game. Jesse's play really declines when he gets tired, we can't ask him to play more than 25-30 minutes a game without really compromising his potential performance maybe mourning can help if he gets healthy. Biut even at his best, Mourning has not provided a lot of evidence that he can be a regular rotation player at a BE level. He plays hard, he has some skills. But he is a below average athlete for this level. My guess - Derrickson ends up getting some regular time at the 5 in small ball lineups. A front line of Marcus-Pickett-Walker could potentiall work for 10 minutes a game without completely wearing down Marcus. That lineup would actually be quite good offensively, but powerful low post centers would be a problem. Fortunately, that kind of player is sort of a dying breed in modern basketball! To get our best players on the court as much as possible, and to address our lack of depth at the 5 - I think we'll need to play some small ball on a regular basis this year.I think the bolded part is it. The modern trend in basketball is more towards centers who are like Derrickson, anyway. Yes, Derrickson isn't quite as large as Govan, but unless we are playing somebody like Delgado (and Govan has trouble with him too), the size difference really doesn't matter. Aside from size, Govan really is more of a modern 4 than a 5 anyway - he can shoot well from outside, and he doesn't really excel in the post. In that sense, I think Derrickson and Govan are largely interchangeable (in fact, Derrickson might actually be the better post player). I will add that both Govan and Derrickson were awful on defense last year. I truly hope Ewing can coach up the team on defense, as that's one of the major areas we can improve without even getting any new players.
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Post by SaxaCD on Aug 1, 2017 11:26:22 GMT -5
Agree completely on the backup center situation. and if Jess gets hurt, we are really in trouble. Sodom might be able to play a few minutes of decent D, but he is an offensive zero right now. We'll need someone else to be the primary backup center for 10-15 minutes a game. Jesse's play really declines when he gets tired, we can't ask him to play more than 25-30 minutes a game without really compromising his potential performance maybe mourning can help if he gets healthy. Biut even at his best, Mourning has not provided a lot of evidence that he can be a regular rotation player at a BE level. He plays hard, he has some skills. But he is a below average athlete for this level. My guess - Derrickson ends up getting some regular time at the 5 in small ball lineups. A front line of Marcus-Pickett-Walker could potentiall work for 10 minutes a game without completely wearing down Marcus. That lineup would actually be quite good offensively, but powerful low post centers would be a problem. Fortunately, that kind of player is sort of a dying breed in modern basketball! To get our best players on the court as much as possible, and to address our lack of depth at the 5 - I think we'll need to play some small ball on a regular basis this year.I think the bolded part is it. The modern trend in basketball is more towards centers who are like Derrickson, anyway. Yes, Derrickson isn't quite as large as Govan, but unless we are playing somebody like Delgado (and Govan has trouble with him too), the size difference really doesn't matter. Aside from size, Govan really is more of a modern 4 than a 5 anyway - he can shoot well from outside, and he doesn't really excel in the post. In that sense, I think Derrickson and Govan are largely interchangeable (in fact, Derrickson might actually be the better post player). I will add that both Govan and Derrickson were awful on defense last year. I truly hope Ewing can coach up the team on defense, as that's one of the major areas we can improve without even getting any new players. I still think Sodom will see valuable time this year. Ewing was considered a premier big man coach. If he can develop Sodom, I think big men will be climbing over themselves to get to the Hilltop And we will be a very tough team. Probably a year or two away, but as a former center, I don't see Pat slow-playing a guy of Sodom's potential.
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Sept 6, 2017 21:34:34 GMT -5
On Jamorkos live stream on instagram he revealed that he is playing SG. Would this mean Jagan JP KJ MD Jessie
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