drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Nov 29, 2018 21:24:21 GMT -5
That’s because the upperclassmen are forcing the young players on to the court because they haven’t developed. The freshman may make mistakes, but they are hungry and bring it. Johnson should be feasting his senior season, instead he is on the bench and invisible. I like what Pat has brought in. Every player will not pan out, but give me some hustle plays and I can rally around that. Mac dove for a loose ball his very first game- love it. Tired of being soft and average. I'll tell you that this hunger you speak of is not winning basketball. I think you are mistaking hunger with making sure "I get mine" type plays. For every Mac dive on the floor, there are five sit there flat footed watching the action on defense while his man sneaks away to get open for a shot. This board definitely is split in three right now: 1) thise that think the freshman can do no wrong or explain it away consistently, 2) those that are being way too hard on the freshman and can't see the positive they bring and 3) those that just want to see the team start winning again now and know that only happens this year if we start playing better as a team. I consider myself to be in the last group and the only way this roster does that is if they work to maximize the existing talents of the 9 man rotation. Add a fourth. Those that thought that with the addition of Mackinjo we would definitely be better and are now beginning to think we won't.
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HOYAPLAYA
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Nov 29, 2018 21:47:58 GMT -5
I'll tell you that this hunger you speak of is not winning basketball. I think you are mistaking hunger with making sure "I get mine" type plays. For every Mac dive on the floor, there are five sit there flat footed watching the action on defense while his man sneaks away to get open for a shot. This board definitely is split in three right now: 1) thise that think the freshman can do no wrong or explain it away consistently, 2) those that are being way too hard on the freshman and can't see the positive they bring and 3) those that just want to see the team start winning again now and know that only happens this year if we start playing better as a team. I consider myself to be in the last group and the only way this roster does that is if they work to maximize the existing talents of the 9 man rotation. Add a fourth. Those that thought that with the addition of Mackinjo we would definitely be better and are now beginning to think we won't. I'd suggest that you are in the 3rd group then because you hoped the addition of the talented freshman guards would help the existing talent. Right now, there is no evidence to suggest that is happening and I'm frustrated as hell about that. I love the idea of what Akinjo and Mac bring to the table skill wise but they are both college point guards. The other alternative is for Pat to go after a great ball handling, pass first point guard who ensures he is making the team better and just goes small next year with a 3 guard lineup at all times.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 29, 2018 22:17:48 GMT -5
I'll tell you that this hunger you speak of is not winning basketball. I think you are mistaking hunger with making sure "I get mine" type plays. For every Mac dive on the floor, there are five sit there flat footed watching the action on defense while his man sneaks away to get open for a shot. This board definitely is split in three right now: 1) thise that think the freshman can do no wrong or explain it away consistently, 2) those that are being way too hard on the freshman and can't see the positive they bring and 3) those that just want to see the team start winning again now and know that only happens this year if we start playing better as a team. I consider myself to be in the last group and the only way this roster does that is if they work to maximize the existing talents of the 9 man rotation. Add a fourth. Those that thought that with the addition of Mackinjo we would definitely be better and are now beginning to think we won't. I subscribe to a fifth group - those who understand that we are a very young team, with 3 freshmen, 2 sophomores, a rarely used 5th year senior and a transfer, among the 10 rotation players, that will take more than 3 weeks to learn their roles, how to play as a unit, how to fit their games together.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 29, 2018 22:28:17 GMT -5
Add a fourth. Those that thought that with the addition of Mackinjo we would definitely be better and are now beginning to think we won't. I subscribe to a fifth group - those who understand that we are a very young team, with 3 freshmen, 2 sophomores, a rarely used 5th year senior and a transfer, among the 10 rotation players, that will take more than 3 weeks to learn their roles, how to play as a unit, how to fit their games together. Nope, you're either with them or against them and if they aren't playing the best basketball in November, is there point in playing in Dec-March? I think not. i
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Post by bicentennial on Nov 29, 2018 22:29:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure why this is all in the Blair thread. Suffice it to say we need all 10 players who are getting minutes playing active defense and offense for 40 minutes and working to build a cohesive team. I am sure Patrick Ewing and the rest of the coaches are doing all they know to build that team first mentality. Having two alpha dogs working together since the first game and sophmore and junior players willing to play more limited roles for the good of the team will eventually lead to a cohesive unit. Hopefully that time is weeks not months!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 30, 2018 3:21:51 GMT -5
Maybe Patrick is sending a message about giving 100% every day, not just during games. Could be a lot of reasons. There are reports that the team had the 2 worst practices of the season heading into the Richmond game. Maybe Blair wasn't practicing hard enough. I like that Coach Ewing is sending the message, demanding hard work at all times and willing to sit a player if they aren't working up to their capabilities. It has to be universal. Everybody on the team has to be subject to this penalty... This is why I don't like the "bad practice" comment. What does it mean? Possibilities: - The team played badly. - The team didn't take instruction well. - Certain players didn't put in enough effort. - Certain players played really badly. - The team had a bad attitude. - The team had a good attitude but couldn't execute what the coaching staff wanted. - Jack The Bulldog outplayed our entire roster. So, in short, we have no idea what it means.
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Post by SaxaCD on Nov 30, 2018 7:17:55 GMT -5
There are reports that the team had the 2 worst practices of the season heading into the Richmond game. Maybe Blair wasn't practicing hard enough. I like that Coach Ewing is sending the message, demanding hard work at all times and willing to sit a player if they aren't working up to their capabilities. It has to be universal. Everybody on the team has to be subject to this penalty... This is why I don't like the "bad practice" comment. What does it mean? Possibilities: - The team played badly. - The team didn't take instruction well. - Certain players didn't put in enough effort. - Certain players played really badly. - The team had a bad attitude. - The team had a good attitude but couldn't execute what the coaching staff wanted. - Jack The Bulldog outplayed our entire roster. So, in short, we have no idea what it means. The way Greg snuck a look at Jessie, who sort of bowed his head down and had the smallest smile leads me to believe the TEAM knows EXACTLY what was meant by that comment. And that's a lot more important than whatever we feel about it.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 30, 2018 8:35:28 GMT -5
This is why I don't like the "bad practice" comment. What does it mean? Possibilities: - The team played badly. - The team didn't take instruction well. - Certain players didn't put in enough effort. - Certain players played really badly. - The team had a bad attitude. - The team had a good attitude but couldn't execute what the coaching staff wanted. - Jack The Bulldog outplayed our entire roster. So, in short, we have no idea what it means. The way Greg snuck a look at Jessie, who sort of bowed his head down and had the smallest smile leads me to believe the TEAM knows EXACTLY what was meant by that comment. And that's a lot more important than whatever we feel about it. No one on this board knows what was meant by the "bad practice" comment but if I had to guess, the team may have gotten a little complacent and was just going through the motions and not paying attention to details in practice, thinking they would easily beat an undermanned Richmond team. That also seems to be the way they looked to be playing the game. Coach Ewing knows that working hard in practice and building the right habits is what will make this team grow and it sounds like he made his feelings clear to the team. I guess we will see if how they respond in the next game.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 30, 2018 9:17:24 GMT -5
This is why I don't like the "bad practice" comment. What does it mean? Possibilities: - The team played badly. - The team didn't take instruction well. - Certain players didn't put in enough effort. - Certain players played really badly. - The team had a bad attitude. - The team had a good attitude but couldn't execute what the coaching staff wanted. - Jack The Bulldog outplayed our entire roster. So, in short, we have no idea what it means. The way Greg snuck a look at Jessie, who sort of bowed his head down and had the smallest smile leads me to believe the TEAM knows EXACTLY what was meant by that comment. And that's a lot more important than whatever we feel about it. And that’s exactly my point. The team knows but none of us do. So little point in airing it publicly. It doesn’t really matter though. The team just needs to play better.
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Post by bicentennial on Nov 30, 2018 21:08:45 GMT -5
I was looking at a college basketball stats page and impressed by a couple of our Hoyas. Akinjo leads the Big East in both assists and turnovers but his ratio is about 1.3 to 1. Meanwhile Mosely, Govan and Blair appear to be valueing the ball with awesome assist to turnover ratios! Cutting down on turnovers is definitely one of the things the Hoyas's desperately need to do. Way to go!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 22:38:35 GMT -5
Thought his buckets midway through the first half woke us up and changed the course of the game. Very mature performance from a kid who registered his first DNP in his last game.
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Post by SaxaCD on Dec 3, 2018 22:56:50 GMT -5
Thought his buckets midway through the first half woke us up and changed the course of the game. Very mature performance from a kid who registered his first DNP in his last game. I agree, a few "sent messages" by the head coach seem to have been well received. I especially liked that after making those big shots, he still tried a few drives as well, with no hesitation. Very confident game for Jahvon -- but hard practices often result in more confident play. It's like an expansion of the "comfort zone". Great to see.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2018 8:10:07 GMT -5
I love it. It would be a disservice to allow Blair and Pickett to leave the Hilltop as mere three point set shooters. Pickett can be a pro, but must develop his game. Time is now.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 4, 2018 8:25:49 GMT -5
Thought his buckets midway through the first half woke us up and changed the course of the game. Very mature performance from a kid who registered his first DNP in his last game. Most of these players come from experiences in high school and AAU where they were far and a way the best player on the team, so taking it easy at practice some days was not an issue. I think it is refreshing that they are finding out, from a Hall of Fame player, that you can not take days off if you want to be part of this Georgetown program. Working hard in practice builds habits that translate into games. I hope these guys take this a learning opportunities and grow from it. It will make them better players and will make set an expectation for everyone in the program. I really like Blair's game and I think he brings something that the team really needs so I hope he continues to get more opportunities and has a great year.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 4, 2018 8:47:43 GMT -5
You could really see Blair experimenting with new patterns of playing last night and not just being the set shooter behind the 3 point line. On of the shots on the drive was ugly. The other looked pretty good.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 4, 2018 9:27:28 GMT -5
I’m looking forward to seeing what Blair can bring to the games after practicing with a purpose. Kudos to Pat for calling players out for half-assing through practice! What a difference from past administrations!
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Post by sleepy on Dec 4, 2018 9:41:41 GMT -5
I am happy Patrick is using his depth not teach lessons and that the guys are responding well. Patrick seems more comfortable and confident dishing out the tough love this year, not sure this is something he would have done at this point last season. It is great to see.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 11:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by mdtd on Dec 4, 2018 15:16:22 GMT -5
Thought his buckets midway through the first half woke us up and changed the course of the game. Very mature performance from a kid who registered his first DNP in his last game. Gonna need more of that for the next one. That's what Blair brings to the table, game hanger off of the bench. The needed spark plug.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 21, 2019 21:39:02 GMT -5
Hard to believe he sticks around after this year. Akinjo and Mac are not going anywhere. If we ever bring in someone like and Anthony, Baugh, etc - at guard and a wing...can't envision he will see anything more than token minutes. He's even clearly behind Mosely.
I can't imagine he wants to be here for another 2 years of never seeing the floor after the playing time he saw as a Freshman.
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