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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2017 13:19:55 GMT -5
That may be, but encouraging others to do it on a site such as this one is too close to the edge of NCAA recruiting rules. Based on that comment, I get the feels like you don't visit other message boards like this... Based on your comment, you clearly haven't been sold my browsing history by my ISP.  Ah, the old "but everybody else is doing it, Dad!" argument... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 13:22:15 GMT -5
I get it but national champion UNC sends their athletes to Trump University to stay eligible and we're worried about tweeting encouraging thoughts to a recruit..
It's more the "c'mon guys relax" argument...
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 15, 2017 13:23:40 GMT -5
Contacting prospects is counter to NCAA rules. Repeating: "Only Georgetown University's coaches who have successfully completed the NCAA Recruiting Rules Examination on an annual basis may be involved in the recruitment process. Representatives of athletics interests (alumni and boosters) MAY NOT make any recruiting contacts. This includes letters, e-mails, text messages, telephone calls or face-to-face contact on or off campus with a prospect or the prospect's parents. www.guhoyas.com/ot/compliance_Boosters.htmlI guess one question would be whether "booster" means only financial donors vs. mere fans. And should we report all of those Syrapuke tweeters?! "Booster" very broadly defined by NCAA: www.ncaa.org/enforcement/role-boosters |
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 15, 2017 13:50:01 GMT -5
I always remember the story about a prominent Georgetown grad being told by the athletic department not to referee a HS game because one of the teams had a potential Hoya recruit.
Also, when I was president of the Georgetown club of Southern Nevada I was told that I could not invite Demetrius Hunter (or even get his contact information) to our annual student sendoff. So much for treating the student-athletes like normal incoming students.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2017 15:18:24 GMT -5
I get it but national champion UNC sends their athletes to Trump University to stay eligible and we're worried about tweeting encouraging thoughts to a recruit.. It's more the "c'mon guys relax" argument... Remember, it's the NCAA we're dealing with here: which do you think is more likely to come under NCAA enforcement? It ain't the national champions... |
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Apr 15, 2017 15:49:32 GMT -5
Contacting prospects is counter to NCAA rules. Repeating: "Only Georgetown University's coaches who have successfully completed the NCAA Recruiting Rules Examination on an annual basis may be involved in the recruitment process. Representatives of athletics interests (alumni and boosters) MAY NOT make any recruiting contacts. This includes letters, e-mails, text messages, telephone calls or face-to-face contact on or off campus with a prospect or the prospect's parents. www.guhoyas.com/ot/compliance_Boosters.htmlThey're showing him love. Nothing wrong with this. Fans should be able to show the kids support. |
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Apr 15, 2017 15:51:43 GMT -5
Contacting prospects is counter to NCAA rules. Repeating: "Only Georgetown University's coaches who have successfully completed the NCAA Recruiting Rules Examination on an annual basis may be involved in the recruitment process. Representatives of athletics interests (alumni and boosters) MAY NOT make any recruiting contacts. This includes letters, e-mails, text messages, telephone calls or face-to-face contact on or off campus with a prospect or the prospect's parents. www.guhoyas.com/ot/compliance_Boosters.htmlI guess one question would be whether "booster" means only financial donors vs. mere fans. And should we report all of those Syrapuke tweeters?! Zactly. |
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Post by MEGAFAN on Apr 15, 2017 16:14:43 GMT -5
I would say that Liking, Following or @mentioning (in a tweet) a prospect such as @tremonth2o is no more "contacting a prospect" than mentioning @realdonaldtrump in a tweet is considered contacting the POTUS.
On the other hand, sending him a DM (Direct Message) could be considered equivalent to an email or text message, so I'd stay away from that...
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Post by lb25 on Apr 15, 2017 16:30:11 GMT -5
If Tremont comes I will still say the same...Until there is a consistent flow of top PG I would be hesitant to change my argument PRICELESS LMAO! If he decides to come...i will still say the same....1 top of in the last 20+ years IS not consistent... |
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 15, 2017 16:34:24 GMT -5
I would say that Liking, Following or @mentioning (in a tweet) a prospect such as @tremonth2o is no more "contacting a prospect" than mentioning @realdonaldtrump in a tweet is considered contacting the POTUS. On the other hand, sending him a DM (Direct Message) could be considered equivalent to an email or text message, so I'd stay away from that... Rules changed as of August 1, 2016. Divisions I and II rules allow for coaches to contact prospects through the direct-message function on Twitter, subject to the same rules applicable to email communication with recruits. However, publicly mentioning a recruit’s name or sending an “@reply” message via Twitter are both considered NCAA rules violations. Coaches can “follow” recruits on Twitter – and vice versa – so long as the @reply function is not used. Any direct messages sent through Twitter must conform to the contact-period legislation for each NCAA sport. (Brian’s Note: As I’ve always said this represents the biggest new opportunity for coaches to communicate with a recruit via mobile phone in a quick and permission based system. Agree with MEGAFAN. Can "like", retweet, etc but should not directly communicate. www.ncsasports.org/blog/2010/02/02/the-official-ncaa-social-media-rules/www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/4/14/11429908/coaches-recruits-twitter-facebook-social-media-rules |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 17:43:52 GMT -5
I get it but national champion UNC sends their athletes to Trump University to stay eligible and we're worried about tweeting encouraging thoughts to a recruit.. It's more the "c'mon guys relax" argument... Remember, it's the NCAA we're dealing with here: which do you think is more likely to come under NCAA enforcement? It ain't the national champions... I feel you but If the NCAA cared about that rule every HM school would be on probation... |
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2017 18:23:48 GMT -5
I guess one question would be whether "booster" means only financial donors vs. mere fans. And should we report all of those Syrapuke tweeters?! NCAA definition of a booster: "Boosters, referred to by the NCAA as “representatives of the institution’s athletic interests,” include anyone who has: 1. Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university. 2. Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs. 3. Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization. 4. Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes. 5. Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes. 6. Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families. 7. Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics. Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever." www.ncaa.org/enforcement/role-boosters |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 15, 2017 18:44:48 GMT -5
Good clarification, thanks Admin!
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Post by hoyafan2014 on Apr 15, 2017 19:04:32 GMT -5
I wouldnt have included Wright he was a SG trying to become a PG No. He was a point guard. Markel Starks may have started off slow, but he turned into a great point guard. |
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Post by lb25 on Apr 15, 2017 19:14:31 GMT -5
I wouldnt have included Wright he was a SG trying to become a PG No. He was a point guard. Markel Starks may have started off slow, but he turned into a great point guard. Starks was a good guard for the Princeton offense...i think it is a difference.. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2017 19:21:50 GMT -5
Remember, it's the NCAA we're dealing with here: which do you think is more likely to come under NCAA enforcement? It ain't the national champions... I feel you but If the NCAA cared about that rule every HM school would be on probation... Just putting it out there so board members can at least consider the potential implications before they act. |
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Apr 15, 2017 23:03:01 GMT -5
No. He was a point guard. Markel Starks may have started off slow, but he turned into a great point guard. Starks was a good guard for the Princeton offense...i think it is a difference.. eh. Markel was a good basketball player, period. Good athlete too. Don't think he was successful Bc of offensive scheme alone. |
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Post by H2Oya 05 on Apr 16, 2017 6:53:08 GMT -5
I guess one question would be whether "booster" means only financial donors vs. mere fans. And should we report all of those Syrapuke tweeters?! NCAA definition of a booster: "Boosters, referred to by the NCAA as “representatives of the institution’s athletic interests,” include anyone who has: 1. Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university. 2. Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs. 3. Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization. 4. Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes. 5. Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes. 6. Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families. 7. Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics. Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever." www.ncaa.org/enforcement/role-boostersTwo Questions: (1) What is the definition between a donation and a financial contribution? (2) Is there really no limiting factor? Would it actually be a violation if my wife (not a Syracuse fan or grad) make a donation to Syracuse's athletic department then tweeted and DMed at Syracuse recruits? If so, it seems both impossible to police and very easy to cause compliance problems for schools. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 16, 2017 8:13:00 GMT -5
Two Questions: (1) What is the definition between a donation and a financial contribution? (2) Is there really no limiting factor? Would it actually be a violation if my wife (not a Syracuse fan or grad) make a donation to Syracuse's athletic department then tweeted and DMed at Syracuse recruits? If so, it seems both impossible to police and very easy to cause compliance problems for schools. 1. A donation can be non-financial. Hosting a team for lunch, for example, would be a donation but not a financial one. In the example above, the NCAA argues that even if you did not make a gift for actual benefits (e.g., you made a gift to the Thompson Center, or made a gift to baseball even though there are no season tickets), you are still a booster. 2. Yes, it would be a violation, although intent plays a role. |
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Post by deacon on Apr 16, 2017 8:31:19 GMT -5
Remember, it's the NCAA we're dealing with here: which do you think is more likely to come under NCAA enforcement? It ain't the national champions... I feel you but If the NCAA cared about that rule every HM school would be on probation... Exactly. Fans of schools all over break this "rule" thousands of times daily. |
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