royski
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Post by royski on Mar 23, 2017 17:57:30 GMT -5
I believe with Billy Donovan one or more national championships would not be a pipe dream. True, but Billy Donovan is a pipe dream. We should certainly aim high, but that's silly.
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MJGHoya
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Post by MJGHoya on Mar 23, 2017 17:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by practice on Mar 23, 2017 18:01:35 GMT -5
Hmmmm ... looks like a modern dale Norm Dale. Probably not the best look.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 23, 2017 18:02:01 GMT -5
Looks like there will be a contingent that will hate the new coach from the start. No consensus. Tough crowd!
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Post by thedragon on Mar 23, 2017 18:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 23, 2017 18:02:21 GMT -5
I like a lot of the options. Cooley intrigues me. Not sure I'm sold on him but let's assume he is the best guy for a second Why does he leave providence for here? Are the schools really different? He's a Providence guy, he's not leaving home to compete against them 2+ times per year..
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Post by playtyler on Mar 23, 2017 18:08:12 GMT -5
I agree Cooley will probably not leave Providence. But, to answer your question Joey, the schools are vastly different. If the Providence job were open it would not be listed as the best job available and would not be on the front page of every website. Cooley is a great coach and has done a great job. I would like to see what he could do on an even bigger platform. But, he is probably not leaving Providence.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 23, 2017 18:10:13 GMT -5
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Post by royski on Mar 23, 2017 18:10:29 GMT -5
We fired our coach for one reason: wins and losses. We need to get a winner here. Anyone who is looking past a Gregg Marshall because he yelled at a ref is not serious. Thankfully, Tagliabue is.
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Post by bankshot53 on Mar 23, 2017 18:11:47 GMT -5
I live near Monmouth Univ. and before King Rice came to the program, their Arena was empty and they couldn't pay people to go to games. Within a few years King Rice has turned the program around. They had two successful seasons and are playing to packed houses. Monmouth beat us last year, as I knew they would. Rice is very smart, tough and the players seem to love him. If he's interested, I would hope he would be considered.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 23, 2017 18:17:00 GMT -5
If Marshall is a jerk (his wife apparently is) than we don't want him either. Didn't know. He does have a VERY impressive coaching resume, unlike Dan Hurley. SO they are different in that respect. Wichita State interested in leaving MVC for AAC per ESPN. Would that affect Marshall's decision if he is interested?
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 23, 2017 18:17:27 GMT -5
After reading through this thread and some of the information floating out there at warp speed, I am excited about the future. Georgetown is clearly an attractive opening, and it's attracting a lot of interest. We have a search committee formed, and I hope that we are now ready to go out and make a good decision. Here are some of my quick thoughts on the names floating:
My Top Tier--
Shaka Smart: My position on Smart is clear. I think he'd be a perfect fit at Georgetown. East Coast guy, great recruiter, known for good guard play and tenacious defense. Plus, he's a high-energy guy who can really engage a fan base. He has a Final Four on his resume at VCU, and Texas is a tough job. I think he'd be a slam dunk hire.
Chris Collins: If he would leave Northwestern, we should be right there on his doorstep. He has done a terrific job building a program at a high-level academic school. He understands the balance and has done a terrific job recruiting Chicago. If he could keep his ties in Chicago and add recruiters who can really pick up the DMV, we could quickly grow back into a major force.
Archie Miller: Archie Miller has shown strong consistency at Dayton. Dayton is a good job, but not a great job. Miller has shown that he can perform consistently, with four straight Tournament berths and an Elite 8 run. Also call me crazy, but he seems to be in the sweet spot for a mid-major coach jumping to a bigger program. It sure seems like he has maximized what he can do at Dayton, and he could go further at Georgetown. I think he's a terrific coach and would also be a great fit for us.
Chris Mack: I have no idea if we could get him, but he would be my top pick of current Big East coaches. He has done an incredible job at Xavier and has demonstrated his ability. If he wanted to make a big move, we should be actively in play. A potential drawback is that he seemed to have a rather cool relationship with JTIII and occasionally seemed to dis the program. If he were hired, I could see him struggling to make the connection to the Thompsons.
Ed Cooley: Really tenacious coach who always leaves his heart on the floor. He has consistently over-achieved at Providence in terms of recruiting and performance. The job he did this year after losing his two best players was incredible. His lackluster NCAA record isn't great, but I have to wonder if he could do a lot more at a bigger program with better recruiting and more resources. He has also been close with the Thompsons, consistently praising JTIII and reaching out to JTII to try to get him engaged with Providence. It might be tough at first, but I could see him really getting along with JT Jr. and keeping all sides engaged. I think that could be the biggest coup that Georgetown could pull -- keeping the Thompsons engaged with the program while leading it in a new direction.
My Middle Tier --
Tom Crean: People on here are too tough on him. He had three sweet 16s and two Big 10 titles at Indiana. He's a good coach, a good recruiter, and has succeeded at a Catholic school. I would be excited if he were hired. Still. I just don't really see him as quite as strong a fit as the other coaches I listed above.
Tommy Amaker: People on here are also too tough on him. He's done an undeniably good job at Harvard. He proved that he could recruit talented athletes to a very high-level program. I see him selling a vision that Georgetown would really like. He could really put us in a sweet spot, with a better program than most of the other high-academic private schools other than Duke. And heck, once Duke undergoes a change, I could see us being positioned to take its place as the top "academic power" in the East or at least contend with it. He didn't have a great record at his two bigger stops but wasn't a "flop" either. He made the Sweet 16 at SHU and got Michigan to the NIT consistently. He just never quite broke through at either program. Not my favorite candidate, but far from terrible.
Jamion Christian: He has done a good job at Mt. St. Mary's. Two NCAA Tournament appearances. But he has a record just over .500 at MSM, so he's a bit of a risk. Still, if we were to want to take a big risk, he's the type of risk I would take: young, familiar with the DMV, can recruit. I can see him bringing energy and enthusiasm to the program.
Don't Want --
Danny Hurley: He has done a decent job at Rhode Island and can coach. I just don't see him as a championship-level coach. He's decent, just hard to really get excited about.
Richard Pitino: Sure, he can probably coach, just please don't make me pull for a Pitino, Georgetown. I really don't want to.
Patrick Ewing: Greatest player of all time. Too disconnected to the college game to make the jump now. Georgetown can get an established college head coach. It should do so.
That's my snapshot that I'll throw out there. I'm pretty open on other possible choices.
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Post by MJGHoya on Mar 23, 2017 18:17:58 GMT -5
We fired our coach for one reason: wins and losses. We need to get a winner here. Anyone who is looking past a Gregg Marshall because he yelled at a ref is not serious. Thankfully, Tagliabue is. I absolutely love Marshall as a coach. Was just pointing out some of his issues since some folks were concerned with Hurley's personality. Marshall and Archie Miller would be at or near the top of my list, but they seem to be longshots.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 23, 2017 18:18:57 GMT -5
Anyone with insider access and a hankering to summarize?
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 23, 2017 18:20:31 GMT -5
We fired our coach for one reason: wins and losses. We need to get a winner here. Anyone who is looking past a Gregg Marshall because he yelled at a ref is not serious. Thankfully, Tagliabue is. I absolutely love Marshall as a coach. Was just pointing out some of his issues since some folks were concerned with Hurley's personality. Marshall and Archie Miller would be at or near the top of my list, but they seem to be longshots. Why is Archie Miller a longshot? I keep seeing that here. What am I missing?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 23, 2017 18:24:05 GMT -5
We cannot take a chance on a coach moving up in class, and to me that eliminates the King Rice's or Christian's of the world. We need a proven major conference coach who won't freak out the first time he can't get his pet recruit into an institution that values academics.
BTW, great post Bama.
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Post by royski on Mar 23, 2017 18:24:34 GMT -5
I absolutely love Marshall as a coach. Was just pointing out some of his issues since some folks were concerned with Hurley's personality. Marshall and Archie Miller would be at or near the top of my list, but they seem to be longshots. Why is Archie Miller a longshot? I keep seeing that here. What am I missing? He has drawn serious interest from high major programs for years and always rebuffed them. Conventional wisdom is he probably has his eye on a specific job.
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Post by MJGHoya on Mar 23, 2017 18:25:03 GMT -5
I absolutely love Marshall as a coach. Was just pointing out some of his issues since some folks were concerned with Hurley's personality. Marshall and Archie Miller would be at or near the top of my list, but they seem to be longshots. Why is Archie Miller a longshot? I keep seeing that here. What am I missing? Perception is that he is holding out for an "elite" job. Supposedly he wasn't interested in returning to NC St. Perhaps he would be interested. We will see. I hope he is interested.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 23, 2017 18:26:33 GMT -5
Why is Archie Miller a longshot? I keep seeing that here. What am I missing? He has drawn serious interest from high major programs for years and always rebuffed them. Conventional wisdom is he probably has his eye on a specific job. Or the right job.
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 18:29:07 GMT -5
Anyone with insider access and a hankering to summarize? Their recommendation is Ed Cooley and their prediction is Amaker. Please no Amaker. If we want to go Ivy League, go Henderson, go Dunphy, go Sydney Johnson, go James Jones. Not Amaker.
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