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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 8, 2017 23:58:09 GMT -5
You do never know, but I believe there are pretty huge exit penalties in the Big East now. One conference has no exit fee. That's right, $0.00. It's the Southeastern Conference. Two schools, Tulane and Georgia Tech, actually did just that and left the SEC in the 1960's, and have regretted it ever since. And if one of the current 14 ever chose to leave, rest assured the SEC would have a line around the block with applicants. I'm sure. But UConn would never get a call.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 9, 2017 0:54:36 GMT -5
One conference has no exit fee. That's right, $0.00. It's the Southeastern Conference. Two schools, Tulane and Georgia Tech, actually did just that and left the SEC in the 1960's, and have regretted it ever since. And if one of the current 14 ever chose to leave, rest assured the SEC would have a line around the block with applicants. I'm sure. But UConn would never get a call. And the football money in the SEC is so huge, there's no reason any school would ever leave. That's the reason they can get away with no exit fees. Nobody wants to leave.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 15, 2017 16:11:34 GMT -5
Rothstein tweeted a FanRag article today claiming that there have been some specific discussions between UConn and the Big East, both sides are very interested, the BE has indicated it would accept all of UConn teams into the conference. Would be up to the Huskies to find a place for their football team.
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 16, 2017 23:44:29 GMT -5
UCONN to BE is going to happen. They at least realize the school is built on basketball and the fact they have a bad DI football program shouldn't get in the way of that is refreshing. Syracuse and some others would have been well served with that realization as they devalue everything.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 19, 2017 0:28:30 GMT -5
UCONN to BE is going to happen. They at least realize the school is built on basketball and the fact they have a bad DI football program shouldn't get in the way of that is refreshing. Syracuse and some others would have been well served with that realization as they devalue everything. I agree that UConn coming into the Big East would be good if done right, but let's not sugar coat it: the only reason they want this is because the major conferences won't give them a seat at the table. If the ACC, Big 10, or Big 12 gave them an invite they'd be rushing there immediately. That said, I do think they realize that being in the AAC long-term is not really all that beneficial because it devalues all of their sports programs, including basketball.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 19, 2017 11:16:28 GMT -5
The selling point of the new BE is that it is basketball first. UConn fits the bill and they have the history. I guess the women will always strive for number two.
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Post by DudeSlade on Feb 19, 2017 12:34:16 GMT -5
I'm assuming that this would include the UConn women's basketball team as well? That alone might make it worth it to take them. Would be impossible to ignore the formula that Big East = basketball then.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 21, 2017 20:54:59 GMT -5
What i hear the uconn president ABSOLUTLEY denies any interest which usually means LOTS of interest all sport but football ALL AND need a twelfth team looking at DAYTON VCU sound good to me actually Dayton looks the best WE WILL SEE glad the uconn pres is denying it to their fans and alums. GO HOYAS GO OLD NEW BIG EAST
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 31, 2017 12:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by gunny on Mar 31, 2017 12:46:33 GMT -5
That is all fine and well, but ask any UConn alum, would you rather play Wichita State, SMU, and Cincinnati (along with the conference tournament at rotating sites) or Villanova, Georgetown, St. John's, Providence and Seton Hall (along with the conference tournament in MSG) and see what they say? The only draw for UConn to stay in the AAC is football and the hope to join one of the "Power 5 Conferences". If they ever decide to de-emphasize football, they would be in the Big East in a minute.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 31, 2017 17:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 31, 2017 18:58:04 GMT -5
Invite them in. Misery loves company.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 31, 2017 23:21:46 GMT -5
The UConn women lost to a Missisippi State buzzer beater in overtime.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2017 8:10:06 GMT -5
The UConn women lost to a Missisippi State buzzer beater in overtime. If that was the best that womens basketball has to offer, then the game is even more unwatchable than the mens game.
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 2, 2017 8:16:28 GMT -5
Of course that means they will be a top 10 hot mess instead of a top 5 non hot mess.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 4, 2017 10:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 4, 2017 10:48:21 GMT -5
Let's take a look at Jackson. If we add UConn, we should add Gonzaga. The "west" would be Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier & Gonzaga and the east would be Gtown, St. JOhns, Nova, Provy, UConn & Seton Hall. I am sure they could be a basketball only member (Gonzaga) and figure out a scheduling scenario where they could knock out their "east" games in one week with a Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday schedule all on the road.
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 4, 2017 11:00:39 GMT -5
Let's take a look at Jackson. If we add UConn, we should add Gonzaga. The "west" would be Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier & Gonzaga and the east would be Gtown, St. JOhns, Nova, Provy, UConn & Seton Hall. I am sure they could be a basketball only member (Gonzaga) and figure out a scheduling scenario where they could knock out their "east" games in one week with a Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday schedule all on the road. Under your scenario, we go from 18 conference games to 16 (two games against divisional rivals, and one against the other division). Gonzaga would still be looking at lengthy trips to get to divisional rivals in Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Chicago and Milwaukee (I'll accept, grudgingly, that Omaha would be a "short" trip for purposes of argument). Their travel budget would be obscene. And what league would let them park all of their remaining sports? I doubt that the WCC would let Gonzaga yank the flagship sport out of their conference and keep all of the other sports. It would also force GU to find two more OOC games against competition that would be "acceptable" to the season ticket holders, which will be difficult when other conferences are likewise expanding their conference schedules and limiting OOC games. I would prefer just bringing in UConn and going to a 20-game conference schedule (home and home against each of the other ten schools). While Gonzaga would be a wonderful addition, it's just too far away to make any sense. If it had made sense, it would have happened when the new Big East Conference was formed.
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Post by H2Oya 05 on Apr 4, 2017 11:34:42 GMT -5
It's tough to do with travel partners if you only add one team. Realistically, and sadly, the best way would be to add six! teams at once: UConn, Dayton, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita State, and University of San Francisco (or another west coast school of our liking). That would leave every school with at least one geographic rival. In the east, you'd have Georgetown, Providence, St. Johns, Villanova, UConn, Seton Hall, Xavier, and Dayton. (Everyone of the first six schools is near the other five, and Xavier and Dayton make sense as geographic rivals.) Out west you'd have Gonzaga, St. Mary's, USF, Creighton, Wichita State, Butler, DePaul, and Marquette. There you'd have Butler, DePaul, and Marquette each relatively close to one another, you'd have Creighton as a natural rival of Wichita State, and out west you'd have three schools that have been playing eachother (and an opportunity to tap the San Francisco market.
With Two Sets of 8, you'd play a home and home within your division for a total of 14 games, and then six of the other schools (3 home, 3 away) however our TV partners see fit.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 4, 2017 12:05:40 GMT -5
It's tough to do with travel partners if you only add one team. Realistically, and sadly, the best way would be to add six! teams at once: UConn, Dayton, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita State, and University of San Francisco (or another west coast school of our liking). That would leave every school with at least one geographic rival. In the east, you'd have Georgetown, Providence, St. Johns, Villanova, UConn, Seton Hall, Xavier, and Dayton. (Everyone of the first six schools is near the other five, and Xavier and Dayton make sense as geographic rivals.) Out west you'd have Gonzaga, St. Mary's, USF, Creighton, Wichita State, Butler, DePaul, and Marquette. There you'd have Butler, DePaul, and Marquette each relatively close to one another, you'd have Creighton as a natural rival of Wichita State, and out west you'd have three schools that have been playing eachother (and an opportunity to tap the San Francisco market. With Two Sets of 8, you'd play a home and home within your division for a total of 14 games, and then six of the other schools (3 home, 3 away) however our TV partners see fit. No. I think UConn as a single addition would be fine, but there's no reason to dilute the league with these other programs. Gonzaga is solid but just too far away. And Wichita State will be good until Marshall leaves. But it's just not compelling enough. I realize we aren't geographically compact now, either, but making a nationwide conference is silly.
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