GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 9, 2016 14:19:20 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from doc, it may be true from a tournament resume point of view that a lot (if not everything) rests on the next few days. My only issue is that your post seems to suggest that whatever state the team is in now is somehow fixed and will not change going forward. It seems to me that the Hoyas are in a state of extreme flux. Veteran players are adapting (somewhat painfully at times) to a new offensive and a new defensive scheme. The team is also incorporating new faces in key roles. There is very little if any continuity carrying over from last year's squad, which is causing a significant amount of inconsistency. It is quite possible that this match-up against LaSalle is catching the Hoyas at a vulnerable point in that transition and it could get very ugly. It is also possible (but seems unreasonably optimisitic) that things click and they roll past LaSalle. Regardless of what happens against LaSalle, I think it's unfair to discount the possibility that the team will have grown, adjusted and better incorporated those new concepts and players by the time they face their Big East foes. It's also possible they never adjust or even regress. I guess my point is this team is struggling with a lot of change. It's shown flashes of what it can do, but those have been overshadowed by large stretches of incredibly frustrating inconsistency and hesitancy. Basically, if the Hoyas don't win 2 of their next 3 games, they'll enter conference play at 6-6 and need to go 12-6 or 11-7 plus a BET win to get to 18 wins, which leaves almost no margin of error. And it's hard to see them getting in to the tournament with fewer than 18 wins. Ok. St. in 2015 is the only team to make the NCAAs with 18 wins in the past five years. I think we should make the NCAAs if we get 18 wins, considering how deep the Big East is, but 17 wins probably isn't enough to get off the bubble. To be fair, we do also have UConn at home. But, yeah, we really gotta win 8 OOC games (UConn, LaSalle and UNCG) at a minimum.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 9, 2016 15:09:31 GMT -5
Opening line is Hoyas -3. For anyone that thinks this is the game that makes or breaks the season (like me) a money line bet on La Salle probably isn't the worst emotional hedge.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 9, 2016 16:29:07 GMT -5
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Dec 9, 2016 21:04:52 GMT -5
Excellent article. My only real hope for the Hoyas tomorrow is the long layoff since Elon. There is some reason to believe that we just weren't ready for the competition we faced in November. Too many new moving parts that needed to be coordinated and incorporated. JT3 has to have seen enough by now to know what works and what doesn't. I have to believe that considering how deep we are that given a weeks worth of practice we will look much better tomorrow. Plus, MD, Ike, and Caleb have had an extra week to heal. But if we don't look better tomorrow then all bets are off for the remainder of the season.
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guru
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Post by guru on Dec 9, 2016 22:20:35 GMT -5
Excellent article. My only real hope for the Hoyas tomorrow is the long layoff since Elon. There is some reason to believe that we just weren't ready for the competition we faced in November. Too many new moving parts that needed to be coordinated and incorporated. JT3 has to have seen enough by now to know what works and what doesn't. I have to believe that considering how deep we are that given a weeks worth of practice we will look much better tomorrow. Plus, MD, Ike, and Caleb have had an extra week to heal. But if we don't look better tomorrow then all bets are off for the remainder of the season. Sadly, more JT3 time for the team doesn't sound like a good thing to me anymore.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 10, 2016 10:53:31 GMT -5
Excellent article. My only real hope for the Hoyas tomorrow is the long layoff since Elon. There is some reason to believe that we just weren't ready for the competition we faced in November. Too many new moving parts that needed to be coordinated and incorporated. JT3 has to have seen enough by now to know what works and what doesn't. I have to believe that considering how deep we are that given a weeks worth of practice we will look much better tomorrow. Plus, MD, Ike, and Caleb have had an extra week to heal. But if we don't look better tomorrow then all bets are off for the remainder of the season. Yeah, that's kind of where I am. A win today would show this team is improving and has a chance to get better and make noise in the Big East. If they lose though, it's hard to believe they'll actually be able to make that improvement. Of course, last year's Wisconsin team, lost two home games to Milwaukee and Marquette in early December and then started out the Big 10 season 1-4 (and were 9-9 in mid-January) before finishing 12-2 and making the Sweet Sixteen. So the season isn't over, even if they lose, although if that's the hat we're hanging our hopes on, it's a pretty big long shot.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 10, 2016 11:43:49 GMT -5
We need this game. Staff and team have worked hard this week.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Dec 10, 2016 12:54:15 GMT -5
This has to be Isaac Copeland's breakout game. No way this team can be successful without him. HE CAN DO IT. Last year he had 32 against Marquette. I remember that game. He was unstoppable the last 10 minutes. With Pryor and Peak playing as well as they are if Ike gets hot the Hoyas will be very hard to beat today and for the rest of the year.
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Dec 10, 2016 13:14:55 GMT -5
Less people here than a Verizon Center game
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 10, 2016 13:16:32 GMT -5
Rebound and share the ball, that's all I ask! Well, win too.
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Dec 10, 2016 13:26:11 GMT -5
Rick Barry and Pat Riley are here. Anyone recognize who is sitting with Pat? L
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Dec 10, 2016 13:28:20 GMT -5
Horace Grant.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 10, 2016 13:41:50 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 10, 2016 14:05:59 GMT -5
What was the attendance for the Elon game? Combined doubleheader attendance was 8,645.--Admin
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 10, 2016 14:10:26 GMT -5
Starters: Peak, Mosely, Agau, Pryor, Hayes
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 10, 2016 14:13:56 GMT -5
Gotta get our hands on the first rebounding chance, stop tipping it around.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Dec 10, 2016 14:16:01 GMT -5
I really like Agau's energy.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Dec 10, 2016 14:16:46 GMT -5
However, I do not love our press.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 10, 2016 14:18:12 GMT -5
Nice looking 3 for Jagan.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 10, 2016 14:18:21 GMT -5
Mosely for the 3!
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