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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 21:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 5, 2016 21:57:50 GMT -5
Not only are you not taking the time to read my comments correctly, it comes across as your not even reading or understanding your own comments correctly. I'm going to try it again. What I could surmise from your previous post in which you tried to make a comparison of Fisher and Mulmore and I stated much like Fisher was key to those Lakers championships, Mulmore will be a key to this team's success. You brought up Derrick Fisher and minimized his contributions to those Lakers teams by labeling him as just a 5th starter. As for me mentioning your name in my reply to Glides meaning I wanted some kind of response from you comes across very ver juvenile. I have mentioned other posters names like Etomics in replies or conversations where I wasn't talking directly to Etomic. I wasn't expecting or doing it for a reaction from Etomic or the other posters names I've used but as vehicle to state a point. Your making this out to come across as if my comment to Glides was about you in any way on some hip hop Joe Budden/Meek Mills/Drake junk. Ohh he said my name so he must want me to come back at him...Smh seriously Just so we understand each other, me mentioning your posting name in a comment to Glides was in no way an attempt to take a shot at you or get a response from you in any manner. I'm not sure if by mentioning your posting name in reply to someone else is bad Hoyatalk etiquette. If it is my bad! My post to Glides was not about YOU IN ANYWAY only a reference to a past conversation to point out I agreed with Glides. If you go back to the original reply to Glides, I didn't even state your point of view in our conversation. Me using capital letters is in no way an attempt to attack you or garner some type of response from you. I had no idea that posting your name in my reply to Glides would garner any response from you much less all this. If I had the same conversation regarding Tre and Mulmore with anybody else, I would have put their name in the reply to Glides. Lastly as I read this I realize that I have mentioned Glides a bunch. I do it with zero malice nor am I doing it to get a response from him. I'm putting this to bed. No need for DM's or anything like that nor do I have any malice as I consider you one of the few people on here who's post I will check regularly for updates. 5th best starter on a Championship team isn't a diss or minimizing him. Another example: You honestly believe that I spent a year pushing for Daquan Bracey because I don't understand the value of a playmaking guard? We have DM's on the subject, heck the thread title I talk to you on is called Bracey. lol That's what I mean about me saying X and you thinking it means Y...That is the source of my frustration..lol But it cool I'm not mad or upset or something I think it's kind of funny tbh. I aint writing a diss track just yet, just throwing subs for now. lol The reference to Fisher is him sacrificing his overall game for the betterment of his team. Being a star in his role which lead to overall team success. We have enough talent 2-5 to compete if our PG plays within himself, defends, minimizes mistakes and #1 get those kids the ball. I don't think we we need our PG to be a star, just a star in their role... The offense needs to go through Peak, Pryor etc... I went back and read your initial responses on this subject after my reply to Glides and I'm going to be honest with you it really comes across as you minimizing the position. That's how I read and I'm not trying to speak for Rockhoya but based on his response it seems as that's how he read it as well. I don't even know where all this came from because no ever said we needed Mulmore or Mosely to dominate the ball and be a star. I just want them to be a consistent threat offensively and be able to step up when the opportunity presents itself. Every game is different and there will be more than a few games where one of them will step up and lead us to a win from their PG play. I look at Villanova and Duke (last 2 Nat Champs) and there PG's on many nights were the best players on the team but were never the main super star. No one said, at least I never said Mulmore or Mosely had to be Chris Dunn! It would be great if they could be but not an expectation. As far as a potential diss track...my lyrical game is something you don't want any part of
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Post by trillesthoya on Aug 5, 2016 22:12:39 GMT -5
Anyways back to discussing Kenner League...
Stopped by the tonight briefly for the Higher Level Game. Isaac was doing really well out there, seemed extremely comfortable in transition and made a few smart passes. Mulmore three up a really nice alley oop to him at one point, something I could really get used to seeing this year 😎.
One thing about Mulmore, the way he drives to the hoop is REALLY conducive to injury. He falls on his hip often and hard, and it seems like each time it happens it takes a little longer for him to get up. It's great to see him giving his all every game but I really hope that doesn't become an issue this year. Cant let him get injured, regardless of what level of importance he will have to the team's success.
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Post by guru on Aug 5, 2016 22:15:29 GMT -5
5th best starter on a Championship team isn't a diss or minimizing him. Another example: You honestly believe that I spent a year pushing for Daquan Bracey because I don't understand the value of a playmaking guard? We have DM's on the subject, heck the thread title I talk to you on is called Bracey. lol That's what I mean about me saying X and you thinking it means Y...That is the source of my frustration..lol But it cool I'm not mad or upset or something I think it's kind of funny tbh. I aint writing a diss track just yet, just throwing subs for now. lol The reference to Fisher is him sacrificing his overall game for the betterment of his team. Being a star in his role which lead to overall team success. We have enough talent 2-5 to compete if our PG plays within himself, defends, minimizes mistakes and #1 get those kids the ball. I don't think we we need our PG to be a star, just a star in their role... The offense needs to go through Peak, Pryor etc... I went back and read your initial responses on this subject after my reply to Glides and I'm going to be honest with you it really comes across as you minimizing the position. That's how I read and I'm not trying to speak for Rockhoya but based on his response it seems as that's how he read it as well. I don't even know where all this came from because no ever said we needed Mulmore or Mosely to dominate the ball and be a star. I just want them to be a consistent threat offensively and be able to step up when the opportunity presents itself. Every game is different and there will be more than a few games where one of them will step up and lead us to a win from their PG play. I look at Villanova and Duke (last 2 Nat Champs) and there PG's on many nights were the best players on the team but were never the main super star. No one said, at least I never said Mulmore or Mosely had to be Chris Dunn! It would be great if they could be but not an expectation. As far as a potential diss track...my lyrical game is something you don't want any part of Both of you - deletedMOD NOTE: there are more appropriate ways to address other board posters than this. Please keep that in mind.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 5, 2016 22:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 5:56:28 GMT -5
I went back and read your initial responses on this subject after my reply to Glides and I'm going to be honest with you it really comes across as you minimizing the position. That's how I read and I'm not trying to speak for Rockhoya but based on his response it seems as that's how he read it as well. I don't even know where all this came from because no ever said we needed Mulmore or Mosely to dominate the ball and be a star. I just want them to be a consistent threat offensively and be able to step up when the opportunity presents itself. Every game is different and there will be more than a few games where one of them will step up and lead us to a win from their PG play. I look at Villanova and Duke (last 2 Nat Champs) and there PG's on many nights were the best players on the team but were never the main super star. No one said, at least I never said Mulmore or Mosely had to be Chris Dunn! It would be great if they could be but not an expectation. As far as a potential diss track...my lyrical game is something you don't want any part of Both of you - Shut up lol... Nobody asked you.... 4ever and I might disagree but he contributes way more to this board than you do. Why don't you take your own advice Guru
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 6, 2016 8:26:05 GMT -5
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:14:01 GMT -5
Mulmore is the answer to leading this team. Yes, I believe Jagan can the pg position but hes not a true point guard. He does attack though. Mulmore is the one to do it this upcoming season IMO based upon his experience. But you can't convince me that Mosely isn't the one with the most upside. The kid appears to be growing into a pg right in front of people's eyes. He may not be as pure a pg as Mulmore but so what? The position is changing. What is required of pgs now is different from previous years, previous generations. In today's game Iverson would be accepted as a pg even despite jacking up the rock too much. That dude was averaging 6 to 7 assists per game despite playing the 2-guard in Larry Brown's system and playing alongside teammates who could not shoot or score. Anyway to get back on track it isn't as if Mosely is hunting his shot every time down the court or anything. The guy knows how to play within a system and look for teammates. But he has been showing he has the speed and the developing handle to play the one spot. Not to mention he is also showing he can find his teammates thanks to his height and make the pass. You add his intelligence and his length and athleticism that allow him to play defense on one end and explode on offense at the other and you have a straight up steal who won't be denied his minutes this season. By his soph season he will be battling for that PG spot although he is capable of playing in the backcourt as a two. I think I've mentioned the same thing you did. I just didn't write as much. I'm talking about what's been haunting us for years. DECISION MAKING, CLOCK MANAGEMENT AND KNOWING WHEN TO ATTACK THE BASKET.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:23:23 GMT -5
Think you continue to mischaracterize and/or are missing the nuance of the discussion... Saying Mulmore is a key to our team is like saying Derek Fisher is the key to the Lakers success. He'll be our 5th best starter. His job should be to get the ball to the other guys defend his position and play within himself. Whoever compliments 2-5 the best will get the minutes if that's Mulmore that's fine if that's Tre or Mosely that's fine. Coaches should be able to come up with a strategy to get the ball to our best players and to be successful if and when there are struggles at the PG position regardless of who is positioned there.. Yeah, because PG play doesn't matter at the college level... Point guard play is basketball and matters o every level. Hope this will help some of you! glidehoyas.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/understanding-what-the-hoyas-have-been-missing-a-true-point-guard/ 2011 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2011/03/as-everyone-knows-our-senior-lead-point.html 2013 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2013/04/point-guard-playclock-management.html There's so much you can do with our guards. You can even have them put there at the same. They're all attackers now, so this is a huge PLUS!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:27:27 GMT -5
5th best starter on a Championship team isn't a diss or minimizing him. Another example: You honestly believe that I spent a year pushing for Daquan Bracey because I don't understand the value of a playmaking guard? We have DM's on the subject, heck the thread title I talk to you on is called Bracey. lol That's what I mean about me saying X and you thinking it means Y...That is the source of my frustration..lol But it cool I'm not mad or upset or something I think it's kind of funny tbh. I aint writing a diss track just yet, just throwing subs for now. lol The reference to Fisher is him sacrificing his overall game for the betterment of his team. Being a star in his role which lead to overall team success. We have enough talent 2-5 to compete if our PG plays within himself, defends, minimizes mistakes and #1 get those kids the ball. I don't think we we need our PG to be a star, just a star in their role... The offense needs to go through Peak, Pryor etc... I went back and read your initial responses on this subject after my reply to Glides and I'm going to be honest with you it really comes across as you minimizing the position. That's how I read and I'm not trying to speak for Rockhoya but based on his response it seems as that's how he read it as well. I don't even know where all this came from because no ever said we needed Mulmore or Mosely to dominate the ball and be a star. I just want them to be a consistent threat offensively and be able to step up when the opportunity presents itself. Every game is different and there will be more than a few games where one of them will step up and lead us to a win from their PG play. I look at Villanova and Duke (last 2 Nat Champs) and there PG's on many nights were the best players on the team but were never the main super star. No one said, at least I never said Mulmore or Mosely had to be Chris Dunn! It would be great if they could be but not an expectation. As far as a potential diss track...my lyrical game is something you don't want any part of I will make a log story short for you. Mulmore, and our guard coach's will be so key. Everything else will fall into place. No, really. Watch and see.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:28:31 GMT -5
Yeah, because PG play doesn't matter at the college level... Point guard play is basketball and matters on every level. Hope this will help some of you! glidehoyas.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/understanding-what-the-hoyas-have-been-missing-a-true-point-guard/ 2011 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2011/03/as-everyone-knows-our-senior-lead-point.html 2013 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2013/04/point-guard-playclock-management.html There's so much you can do with our guards. You can even have them put there at the same. They're all attackers now, so this is a huge PLUS!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:32:22 GMT -5
Yeah, because PG play doesn't matter at the college level... Point guard play is basketball and matters o every level. Hope this will help some of you! glidehoyas.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/understanding-what-the-hoyas-have-been-missing-a-true-point-guard/ 2011 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2011/03/as-everyone-knows-our-senior-lead-point.html 2013 season >>>http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2013/04/point-guard-playclock-management.html There's so much you can do with our guards. You can even have them put there at the same. They're all attackers now, so this is a huge PLUS! A point guard is an extension of the coach on the court. So, it's he or her job to get their teammates the ball. Also a pg's job t make their teammates better.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 6, 2016 9:36:48 GMT -5
lol... Nobody asked you.... 4ever and I might disagree but he contributes way more to this board than you do. Why don't you take your own advice Guru No one ever said anything about a being a star, it is possible. I think we have to really understand the role of a point guard before anything! I see lots of guessing going on.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 6, 2016 11:39:37 GMT -5
I went back and read your initial responses on this subject after my reply to Glides and I'm going to be honest with you it really comes across as you minimizing the position. That's how I read and I'm not trying to speak for Rockhoya but based on his response it seems as that's how he read it as well. I don't even know where all this came from because no ever said we needed Mulmore or Mosely to dominate the ball and be a star. I just want them to be a consistent threat offensively and be able to step up when the opportunity presents itself. Every game is different and there will be more than a few games where one of them will step up and lead us to a win from their PG play. I look at Villanova and Duke (last 2 Nat Champs) and there PG's on many nights were the best players on the team but were never the main super star. No one said, at least I never said Mulmore or Mosely had to be Chris Dunn! It would be great if they could be but not an expectation. As far as a potential diss track...my lyrical game is something you don't want any part of Both of you - Shut up Haha that's hilarious! Guru Your too funny with your abbreviations and stuff. I appreciate the comedy....CLOWN! Oh not to confuse you, that's not an abbreviation. GURU YOUR A CLOWN! I didn't even know you were somebody who posted on this board Guru as this might be the first time I've ever read a post from you. Hopefully the next post I read from you will be just as thought provoking and insightful as this one. Once again Guru thanks for all your worthwhile contributions to this board...
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Post by gotgame2 on Aug 6, 2016 11:50:44 GMT -5
Paul White Georgetown Hoyas getting it in! Let's go!
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 6, 2016 14:10:05 GMT -5
Pryor has an additional fan..
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Post by ksf42001 on Aug 6, 2016 14:22:17 GMT -5
MD hurt his knee when he stepped on the ball while trying to reclaim it after being stripped on a fast break. Had to be helped off the court to the back and not putting any weight on that leg...
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Post by CaliHoya on Aug 6, 2016 15:12:28 GMT -5
NOOOO. Let this not be the next victim of the Kenner injury bug
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Post by wnyhoya on Aug 6, 2016 15:26:03 GMT -5
Phew...
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 6, 2016 15:50:37 GMT -5
Thanks for posting WNY! You provided an important service to the rest of us.
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