Macklin, Thomas, Johnson or Wallace 06 schollie?

[SoCal Hoya85]

There is one scholarship left for the 06 class, which could go to Macklin, Thomas, Johnson, Wallace or any other recruit. While it is obvious that a 06 big would be a major contributer to our program, Wallace has been playing his heart out and logged significantly more minutes than Sead.

Personaly as much as I love Wallace there are going to be many backcourt guards (Sapp, Rivers, Thornton), which I think will lead to a dramatic decline in Wallace's playing time.

Unless a scholarship was promised by III and staff to Wallace, where keeping our word would be better in the long run, I would advocate going after another big in the 06 class. I have my doubts about Macklin however, if he wants to go pro out of high school how long would he stay at G-Town? Thomas would be a big contributer for us and don't forget Marques Johnson was a big priority for III and co.

Anyways what do you all think about where the last 06 schollie should go to?

[nychoya3]

I'm not going to speculate, but I think this kind of math is premature before we see if there's any roster attrition in the next couple weeks. We should have a clearer picture of where we stand soon.

I agree that another big man is pretty crucial for 2006, whether a 3/4 like Summers or a 4/5 like Macklin. We need some beef. The need won't be so pressing if Jeff Green hangs around for at least his third year, but after his performance last season, It'd be risky to hang our hat on that happening.

[CTHoya08]

nychoya3 said:

I'm not going to speculate, but I think this kind of math is premature before we see if there's any roster attrition in the next couple weeks. We should have a clearer picture of where we stand soon.

Does anyone know what kind of feedback Bowman is getting from pro scouts, or if anyone is likely to transfer? I think Bowman will be back, but I could see someone like [EDITED] transferring for more playing time.

[GUHoya07]

DaJaun Summers and Lance Thomas would be my first priority and then Macklin. Macklin is only behind them because he clearly wants to go pro as soon as possible.

[RDF]

Well, I'm pretty certain we'll see GU sign at least 3 players in '06 and in addition to Rivers commitment I'd take Summers and Macklin and have my other options aware of Macklin's status---which could be NBA with a huge year, but lot could change by time he wants to enter Draft.

To be honest, as talented and as much upside as Vernon has, I see him as a 2 year College Player for certain and possibly 3 years. If he develops to the point he can go early and there's no age limit, you wish him luck but don't feel bad about signing him. You sign him no matter what--just in case.

There is no rule saying you can't sign Macklin, Summers, Rivers, and someone else and if Macklin were to go Pro you have another player signed already.

There are so many scenarios to play out here it's premature to worry at this point but I'll say this, you HAVE TO SIGN MACKLIN if he wants to come to GU no matter what. He's from a prominent program we have ties too--Boo Williams--and he's super frontcourt prospect that GU system would suit perfectly. Same with Dajuan Summers and Lance Thomas for that matter. But of the 3, Thomas is the longest shot for Hoyas at this time.

Have to say this though, isn't it nice to even be able to discuss this type of recruiting?? ;D

[RBHoya]

I pretty much agree that it depends on what Jon was told before coming to Georgetown. If he was told that if he played successfully as a freshman that he'd be rewarded at season's end with a scholarship, then I think he ought to get it. He started for us and played a lot of minutes..... However, if he knew full well coming in that there was a decent chance that the scholarship would never come, then I think the opportunities here are just too much to pass up. We're talking about some of the best recruits in America. I certainly don't think that JTIII or the AD should go back on their word to the Wallaces, but if there was no such insinuation made, then I suppose its ok for him to maintain walk on status.

It's tough to say without knowing what was on the table when Jon decided to come to Georgetown.

When will we know if Jon gets a scholarship for next year or not?

[WilsonBlvdHoya]

I'm not going to clampdown yet but please be judicious/wary of rampant transfer speculation. If it's nothing but rumor or speculation, leave it off the board as far as transfers are concerned. Thx....WBH

[CTHoya08]

Sorry, won't happen again.

[SirSaxa]

RDF said:

Have to say this though, isn't it nice to even be able to discuss this type of recruiting?? ;D

Absolutely!

[JimmyHoya]

I think Wallace would have gotten the schollie awhile ago if they really wanted him to have it.

There's no point in recruiting if there isn't going to be one available, and recruiting for awhile, and maybe, maybe not finding something good, then leaving it to Wallace doesn't make much sense either.

[EasyEd]

I think the honorable thing to do, in view of his giving his all this past year, is to give a scholarship to Jon and have us live with the consequences. Jon deserves it and it would cast a pretty bad image if he did not get one.

[SFHoya99]

easyed said:

I think the honorable thing to do, in view of his giving his all this past year, is to give a scholarship to Jon and have us live with the consequences. Jon deserves it and it would cast a pretty bad image if he did not get one.

I think none of us know the situation, and thus we all have a difficult task if we're trying to apply moral standards.

I'm sure Jon and John have it worked out. If one is unhappy, I'm sure we'll hear of it.

[GUHoya07]

easyed said:

I think the honorable thing to do, in view of his giving his all this past year, is to give a scholarship to Jon and have us live with the consequences. Jon deserves it and it would cast a pretty bad image if he did not get one.

How can you say anything about casting a bad image? Unless you know what JT III said to the kid before he came here then you can't make that claim. If he guaranteed Wallace a schollie or said that he would get one if he performed well then we should honor our commitment, but if JT III never said he would be guaranteed a schollie then he doesn't have to get one and it wouldnt cast any negative image.

I like Jon and would love for him to get a schollie, but we need an '06 Big man much more than we need to give Jon a schollie. So if we told him he'd get one than he should get it, but if we didnt then we need to keep that schollie.

[EasyEd]

Whether or not JTIII offered or promised a scholaship to Jon is beside the point. Jon came in and started every game in a turnaround season and gave it all he had to offer. In my opinion, that deserves a scholarship.

[EasyEd]

Sorry for the duplicate but I got an error message leading me to think it had not gone through.

[TBird41]

easyed said:

Sorry for the duplicate but I got an error message leading me to think it had not gone through.

You can delete your own posts if you want. Just click on the "delete" butten in the upper right hand corner of the post

[RBHoya]

easyed said:

Whether or not JTIII offered or promised a scholaship to Jon is beside the point. Jon came in and started every game in a turnaround season and gave it all he had to offer. In my opinion, that deserves a scholarship.

Perhaps you can make that case but again it depends on what Jons situation was. It may have been made very clear to him coming in that a scholarship was not likely in the cards for him. He would have been paying full price to go to Princeton (less whatever need-based financial aid he got), but decided to come to Georgetown instead. The cost to go here is likely about the same as he would have paid to go to Princeton, so he is no worse off than he would have been, and perhaps the lure of playing for a top basketball program in the big east was enough to convince him to forsake the ivy league education.

It's really not cut and dry no matter how you look at it. Only the Wallace family, JTIII, and maybe some in the AD really know the whole story, and Im sure we'll find out in the not-to-distant future.

[CTHoya08]

If III decides to save the scholarship for a player in the 2006 high school class instead of giving it to Wallace, we'll still have one for next year. Could this mean one more year for Owens is still possible?

[AllyI]

Maybe, but not if Ewing takes up the scholly during his year sitting out -- havent heard the definitive word on that.