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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 4, 2016 14:51:58 GMT -5
Excellent news, lets now work in a new system that will showcase the huge talent in our team. That is a great point. Don't want to get into an endless debate about the JT3 "system" here. I I just hope that if Jon has the ability to do in the the Big East, what he has done in JUCO, he will be encouraged to do it for the Hoyas. You may recall that JT certainly opened up the offense quite a bit for AI. LJ was certainly free to go to the rim last season; if JM has that ability, I think he will get his chances.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 4, 2016 15:13:40 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Apr 4, 2016 15:19:36 GMT -5
Another great quote:
"I think I can come in and make a change right away. I love winning games and I feel like I can lead the team, help the guys work harder and get Georgetown back where it was at."
This team needs leadership.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 4, 2016 16:10:22 GMT -5
Another great quote: "I think I can come in and make a change right away. I love winning games and I feel like I can lead the team, help the guys work harder and get Georgetown back where it was at." This team needs leadership. Man, the guy even knows a little about the history of the program! Like him.
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 4, 2016 16:39:51 GMT -5
One disturbing thing: After the 2017-2018 year, we are losing a LOT of guys. Reggie, LJ, Isaac, Tre, Trey, Akoy, Paul, and Jon will all be gone. Not sure if Paul or Akoy can get extra years of eligibility but regardless we're going to have a roster torn asunder by that point. Gonna need a strong 2017/2018 class to make up for this for sure.
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Post by swhoya on Apr 4, 2016 17:14:49 GMT -5
One disturbing thing: After the 2017-2018 year, we are losing a LOT of guys. Reggie, LJ, Isaac, Tre, Trey, Akoy, Paul, and Jon will all be gone. Not sure if Paul or Akoy can get extra years of eligibility but regardless we're going to have a roster torn asunder by that point. Gonna need a strong 2017/2018 class to make up for this for sure. Oh for goodness sake. Can we have just a minute of sunshine before we have to start worrying about something that is still several years away?!?! You're not wrong. But it's like telling your grandma on her 70th birthday what her life expectancy is. No need to go there at that moment.
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 4, 2016 17:19:45 GMT -5
Guards get you deep into the tourney, defense wins championships....need a backup center too. Why? Every Mfer on this site ends up complaining, when smaller BE teams beat us, that we don’t need more big men...we need guards...blah, blah, blah. Let Mourning or Akoy be the backup center, even if they end up in the starting lineup as a four. And before anyone claims they are not big enough I would like to point out that most of the teams in the tourney lacked true centers too. How many true fives did you see on the FF4 teams? Our one “true” center (Govan) will be one more than most teams have next season. A few times last season III even had Derrickson playing the five because at the college level even a 6’7 guy can get away with that for a short time. Mfer - dude... slow your roll. I agree that Mourning could possibly be a big and it's not like smallish teams haven't won championships.
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 4, 2016 17:20:39 GMT -5
Another great quote: "I think I can come in and make a change right away. I love winning games and I feel like I can lead the team, help the guys work harder and get Georgetown back where it was at." This team needs leadership. That mentality is great for a JTIII coached team. The players gotta be the bull dogs. He'll be the strategist...
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 4, 2016 18:13:06 GMT -5
They spent a lot of time watching him but didn't want to draw too much attention to it. They love his athleticism, length and ability to get to the bucket and finish. I personally think this commitment is a game changer. A game changer? I tend to always be an optimist and have high hopes. But please tell us more - what of our deficiencies will Mulmore help with? 1) Defense without fouling 2) Transition points 3) Turnovers 4) Points in the paint
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 4, 2016 19:55:38 GMT -5
One disturbing thing: After the 2017-2018 year, we are losing a LOT of guys. Reggie, LJ, Isaac, Tre, Trey, Akoy, Paul, and Jon will all be gone. Not sure if Paul or Akoy can get extra years of eligibility but regardless we're going to have a roster torn asunder by that point. Gonna need a strong 2017/2018 class to make up for this for sure. Paul and Akoy certainly qualify for extra years. And it would be no surprise to have a player or two declare after next season. Sooo . . . I say worry about the future when it gets here.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 4, 2016 20:34:57 GMT -5
Another great quote: "I think I can come in and make a change right away. I love winning games and I feel like I can lead the team, help the guys work harder and get Georgetown back where it was at." This team needs leadership. That mentality is great for a JTIII coached team. The players gotta be the bull dogs. He'll be the strategist... That's kinda sad considering the job of the coach is also to motivate.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 4, 2016 21:20:29 GMT -5
That's IIIs only glaring deficiency for me, he's a poor motivator.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 4, 2016 21:20:40 GMT -5
That mentality is great for a JTIII coached team. The players gotta be the bull dogs. He'll be the strategist... That's kinda sad considering the job of the coach is also to motivate. Players gotta have some bulldog inside. Only so much a coach can motivate. I don't think 'bril or Markel or Wallace needed a lot of motivation. Some do, but it is a huge help to have some curs on your team.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 4, 2016 22:05:36 GMT -5
Some people are more self-motivated than others. A coach job is to know how to motivate the less self-motivated.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 4, 2016 22:24:51 GMT -5
Some people are more self-motivated than others. A coach job is to know how to motivate the less self-motivated. And nobody on HoyaTalk (or 99.9% of us) has any clue as to whether the players self-motivate or not. So this discussion is 100% speculation and pointless.
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 4, 2016 22:53:07 GMT -5
Some people are more self-motivated than others. A coach job is to know how to motivate the less self-motivated. And nobody on HoyaTalk (or 99.9% of us) has any clue as to whether the players self-motivate or not. So this discussion is 100% speculation and pointless. I see it differently. Based on how totally flat we looked in the first half of so many games, the proliferation of casual turnovers and the lack of intensity that was clear for all to see... I'd say the team was not prepared nor motivated to start the majority of their games. Add in losing to Monmouth, Radford and UNCA? Not motivated -- self or otherwise.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 4, 2016 22:58:39 GMT -5
They spent a lot of time watching him but didn't want to draw too much attention to it. They love his athleticism, length and ability to get to the bucket and finish. I personally think this commitment is a game changer. A game changer? I tend to always be an optimist and have high hopes. But please tell us more - what of our deficiencies will Mulmore help with? 1) Defense without fouling 2) Transition points 3) Turnovers 4) Points in the paint Don't know anything about Mulmore but doesn't a point guard easily solve points 2-4? And depending on his defense at least help point 1?
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 4, 2016 23:35:03 GMT -5
And nobody on HoyaTalk (or 99.9% of us) has any clue as to whether the players self-motivate or not. So this discussion is 100% speculation and pointless. I see it differently. Based on how totally flat we looked in the first half of so many games, the proliferation of casual turnovers and the lack of intensity that was clear for all to see... I'd say the team was not prepared nor motivated to start the majority of their games. Add in losing to Monmouth, Radford and UNCA? Not motivated -- self or otherwise. Don't waste your breath. The Thought Policeman is here to shut down any signs of dissent.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 4, 2016 23:54:16 GMT -5
I see it differently. Based on how totally flat we looked in the first half of so many games, the proliferation of casual turnovers and the lack of intensity that was clear for all to see... I'd say the team was not prepared nor motivated to start the majority of their games. Add in losing to Monmouth, Radford and UNCA? Not motivated -- self or otherwise. Don't waste your breath. The Thought Policeman is here to shut down any signs of dissent. Said MCIGuy from his high horse. Ironic, coming from the guy who lectured me last week about how to post on HoyaTalk. As far as the actual substance, I think there were games where we definitely looked flat and others like the Creighton comeback where we did seem to bring intensity. Whether that's motivation or some other factor, I don't know. But, as I said before, unless you're in the clubhouse/locker room it's really tough to reliably analyze things like motivation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 0:04:08 GMT -5
Think it's a Coaches job to recruit players that have that dog in them already or signs of it at least.. When I think of hard nosed agressive teams one of the first coaches that pops into my head is Huggins. Huggy isn't recruiting cats and turning them into dogs he's recruiting kids with a chip on their shoulder that already have that dog in them.. IMO
If you have to spend time trying to teach kids how to play hard you already lost.. Recruit self starters, effort is a skill..
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