s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Aug 24, 2018 22:20:27 GMT -5
I'm shocked by this...even if he were not coming to Georgetown, not having us/Patrick on this list to me is a slap in the face...he just said he had "a great visit..." sorry, I'm just not seeing this... Washington, just because Hopkins was an asst coach at Syracuse? Man, I hope Patrick can find a high level 4 or 5 that connects with him and has the faith that he's special and can get him to the next level...very disappointing news/move on...
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Post by williambraskyiii on Aug 24, 2018 22:25:12 GMT -5
Not surprised by this news, Stewart never gave any recent indication that the Hoyas were in play in this recruitment... Pat hasn’t pulled a Top 75 recruit and it may be unreasonable to expect him to do so going forward. He’s not getting more relevant in the eyes of recruits, that’s for sure, and obviously Georgetown doesn’t have the bells and whistles, to put it nicely, that some other programs have. If he strikes out in ‘19, I do think the best bet is focusing in on 75-200+ and hoping to God we can develop these kids into a contending squad. If we don’t turn this thing around in a recruiting season or two, is there any difference to sju’s failed experiment w mullin? I hope so but just don’t know ...
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Post by trillesthoya on Aug 24, 2018 22:33:56 GMT -5
Not surprised by this news, Stewart never gave any recent indication that the Hoyas were in play in this recruitment... If we don’t turn this thing around in a recruiting season or two, is there any difference to sju’s failed experiment w mullin? I hope so but just don’t know ... Easy there. We got a good squad this season. Several young pieces that will develop into serious players in the next year or two. Recruits will come, maybe not top ten guys but like you said, we're not really the type of school that attracts that type. Yet. Tough to expect serious recruiting returns until the results start to show up in the W column.
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Post by blazers44 on Aug 24, 2018 22:48:49 GMT -5
Just sucks cause the staff spent alot of valuable time recruiting Stewart.
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kbones17
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Post by kbones17 on Aug 25, 2018 0:24:16 GMT -5
Not surprised by this news, Stewart never gave any recent indication that the Hoyas were in play in this recruitment... The unofficial a week ago kind of reignited some lost hope that we were really in the hunt, but yeah there wasn’t much to indicate he wanted to come here. We can’t panic since there’s stil a lot of time but I really hope to see us get some official visits planned soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 2:43:26 GMT -5
Getting him would be great but landing a 5 star for 1 year isn't going to change our trajectory much..
Keep hitting singles and doubles and coach them up...
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Aug 25, 2018 4:02:40 GMT -5
Winning with discipline with the squad we have, and upgrading schedule will help. Mostly WINNING well.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Aug 25, 2018 5:36:28 GMT -5
I see this from the opposite angle. Maybe he is showing the ultimate respect by not wasting Patrick's time for 4-5 months. I know it sucks but we have in place what we need to make 5* kid want to get on board in the future. They will see an exciting style this year that will make it possible to sign studs in '20. Pat needs to close on Lorca, Wahab, or Wilson and one wing. The sky isn't falling.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Aug 25, 2018 6:43:42 GMT -5
I agree with your statement and even posted that same logic in another thread this week but...3 of the 4 guys you just listed are Top 50 recruits and 2 of the 4 are Top 30... Wow. Now you guys see why I say don't spend too much valuable recruiting time on the top 25 players. Hoyas should be focused on the players more so in the #75-200 range. Think of the players the staff could have got in better tooth during that time. Carl Lewis, Kai Jones, Oscar Tshiewbe, Aidan Igehion. Can't believe Washington is on his top 6. They are a program that is up and coming like the hoyas, but clear across the country from his home town. I still think Duke is the team to beat, Michigan St is a close second...
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Aug 25, 2018 6:49:28 GMT -5
Quality Winning will make the difference. No more bonehead mistakes and through aways at the end of games!!!
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Aug 25, 2018 7:12:40 GMT -5
These high-end kids want to win and don't plan on sticking around more than 2 years, if that. Hoyas have changed their style, picked up some nice recruits late in the game and recruited some under the radar players who will make an impact. All this is a step in the right direction. Fact is they are still a bottom-end team in the Big East and until the coach's energy on the recruiting trail translates into winning on the court it will be an uphill battle trying to win over some of these elite recruits. We all tend to overvalue the impact of Ewing's resume on kids who weren't even born when he was at his peak.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Aug 25, 2018 9:49:09 GMT -5
Sucks! Stewart has an opportunity to be one-and-done. Maybe he didn’t want to share time with OY7. Who knows.
DTM.
Pat, just keep hitting the recruiting trail hard and it will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 9:53:43 GMT -5
These high-end kids want to win and don't plan on sticking around more than 2 years, if that. Hoyas have changed their style, picked up some nice recruits late in the game and recruited some under the radar players who will make an impact. All this is a step in the right direction. Fact is they are still a bottom-end team in the Big East and until the coach's energy on the recruiting trail translates into winning on the court it will be an uphill battle trying to win over some of these elite recruits. We all tend to overvalue the impact of Ewing's resume on kids who weren't even born when he was at his peak. Probably. But is it unreasonable to think (I really don’t know, so not trying to answer my own question) that Pat has more gravitas, pull, respect than the likes of Mike f—— Hopkins?
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Aug 25, 2018 10:02:50 GMT -5
These high-end kids want to win and don't plan on sticking around more than 2 years, if that. Hoyas have changed their style, picked up some nice recruits late in the game and recruited some under the radar players who will make an impact. All this is a step in the right direction. Fact is they are still a bottom-end team in the Big East and until the coach's energy on the recruiting trail translates into winning on the court it will be an uphill battle trying to win over some of these elite recruits. We all tend to overvalue the impact of Ewing's resume on kids who weren't even born when he was at his peak. Probably. But is it unreasonable to think (I really don’t know, so not trying to answer my own question) that Pat has more gravitas, pull, respect than the likes of Mike f—— Hopkins? The OP's point is generally correct but this situation was different. The kid knows who Pat is and there was a connection. Oh well. What are you going to do... He will probably end up at Duke with another all-star freshman class, Duke will again completely underperform despite that all-star cast, and then he will head to the NBA after his frosh year. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Post by veilside21 on Aug 25, 2018 10:06:22 GMT -5
i dont mind stewart that he didnt choose us. i think the program isnt ready for that yet. I understand that ewing is a great coach however the guys we have are for the long run ... we already have yurtseven next year and walker plus leblanc. we have 3 more options to get a big that will stay and play with mackinjo we will be fine.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Aug 25, 2018 10:10:27 GMT -5
i dont mind stewart that he didnt choose us. i think the program isnt ready for that yet. I understand that ewing is a great coach however the guys we have are for the long run ... we already have yurtseven next year and walker plus leblanc. we have 3 more options to get a big that will stay and play with mackinjo we will be fine. Since he has opted not to come to GU, I need not care about him or his career anymore. Next
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 25, 2018 15:05:11 GMT -5
Dead on as always 'vad.
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Post by bicentennial on Aug 25, 2018 16:14:51 GMT -5
I think what bothers me most about this is that it makes me question if going to La Lumierre with Jaren Jackson as coach was a bad thing for the relationship between Stewart and Georgetown? It makes me sad to think that a player I enjoyed watching during his and my 4 years as a hoya may no longer be a supporter of Georgetown basketball. On the other hand, it is possible that Stewart had already decided against Georgetown, in that case it is possible that Jaren Jackson encouraged Stewart to take us off his list so we could move on and find another skilled Big to play in 2019. I hope the relationship between GU basketball and Jaren Jackson is the latter, not the former.
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Post by blazers44 on Aug 25, 2018 16:46:20 GMT -5
If he ends up at Michigan St we know something is up
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Post by dundermifflinhoya on Aug 25, 2018 19:46:47 GMT -5
We need to stop pining over one and done recruits. Our wheel house should be kids ranked in the 40-80 range; supplemented with the occasional 5 star recruit and productive kids in the 80-120 range. Recruit kids that fit our system and that can be developed.
Villanova has not had a one and done player in the Jay Wright era; yet they have won two national championships.
One and done players are not coming to Georgetown and do not realistically change the trajectory of our program at this point.
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