TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on May 1, 2005 15:05:31 GMT -5
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TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on May 1, 2005 15:15:23 GMT -5
Believe it or not, some of the opposition to redrawing the 3 pt line and the lane comes from smaller programs who would have to spend a bunch of money to change their floors.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on May 1, 2005 15:40:45 GMT -5
During the NCAA tourney, it just seemed too close. It was like, nobody was even thinking about going to the basket anymore, it was just pull up and hit a three.
Moving it back might be a good idea. It'll mean that only the better players will be able to hit tres consistently. When you watch big time college hoops, a lot of these players are closer to professionals than they are high schoolers, so it makes sense that there 3 pt. shot would be more difficult than that of your everyday high school player.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on May 1, 2005 15:50:22 GMT -5
I could never believe they gave 3 points for that shot anyway -- the top of the key? That's just a midrange jumper!
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Post by nychoya3 on May 1, 2005 16:06:12 GMT -5
They should call this the West Virginia rule. When WVU shot 75% from 3 against Louisville, I think that brought the problem into focus. Had Illinois beaten UNC shooting 40+ 3s, that would have been just more proof. No question that this needs to happen.
Now, how does this impact Georgetown. On one hand, a fairly large percentage of our shots were three pointers this year. So, in theory, it hurts us more than another team which gains fewer points from 3. On the other hand, I think anything that forces the defense to spread out tends to allow us to cut more effectively. Since the defense will now tend to extend a little more, it should give us a little more room to operate the back cuts and stuff. Also, I expect us to score more points from the block next year as Jeff and Roy develop. So, I expect we should shoot fewer threes regardless.
This also hurts some guys more than others. It will be interesting to see if Brandon can extend his range. He isn't a naturally great shooter, but he has gotten better every year and was really knockiing them down in the second half of last year. Ashanti is a guy who already has great range and looks natural shooting out to NBA range. I expect him to convert without much trouble.
I hope it happens, it's good for college basketball,
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on May 1, 2005 16:22:15 GMT -5
They should call this the West Virginia rule. When WVU shot 75% from 3 against Louisville, I think that brought the problem into focus. Had Illinois beaten UNC shooting 40+ 3s, that would have been just more proof. No question that this needs to happen. Now, how does this impact Georgetown. On one hand, a fairly large percentage of our shots were three pointers this year. So, in theory, it hurts us more than another team which gains fewer points from 3. On the other hand, I think anything that forces the defense to spread out tends to allow us to cut more effectively. Since the defense will now tend to extend a little more, it should give us a little more room to operate the back cuts and stuff. Also, I expect us to score more points from the block next year as Jeff and Roy develop. So, I expect we should shoot fewer threes regardless. This also hurts some guys more than others. It will be interesting to see if Brandon can extend his range. He isn't a naturally great shooter, but he has gotten better every year and was really knockiing them down in the second half of last year. Ashanti is a guy who already has great range and looks natural shooting out to NBA range. I expect him to convert without much trouble. I hope it happens, it's good for college basketball, I pretty much agree with this--I think it's effects on the Hoyas will be pretty much negligable, as the good and bad effects cancel each other out as you list nyc. I also think it's good for the game itself, but not if they extend it all the way to the NBA distance. International distance would be fine and help preserve the three as a weapon for smaller schools/underdogs while preventing the craziness like WVU-L'Ville and Illinois-UNC
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TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on May 1, 2005 16:25:23 GMT -5
Now, how does this impact Georgetown. Didn't the tournament in Hawaii use the experimental 3 pt line at 20'6"? I remember Clemson wasn't impacted by it that much from looking at the stats and I don't think GU was either probably. That being said, weren't alot of NBA range 3s hit by Hoyas in the BE tourney games?
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Post by CAHoya07 on May 1, 2005 23:17:44 GMT -5
Definitely agree the 3 point line should be pushed back, for all the reasons above. 19'9" to 20'6" is only nine inches, so it's not that much of a change, but enough to keep teams like West Virginia from jacking up 40+ threes in a game. It's pretty ridiculous how much the three is exploited in college basketball right now, the time is right for change. It would make the games fairer, and would not detract from the excitement at all, in my opinion.
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Post by YB on May 2, 2005 8:46:30 GMT -5
They should move the 3pt line back to the international line. I mean, it won't affect MY production- the international line is still well within my range- but it will weed out people like Marcus Williams and Rudy Gay whose range is not there.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on May 2, 2005 9:14:25 GMT -5
Definitely agree the 3 point line should be pushed back, for all the reasons above. 19'9" to 20'6" is only nine inches, so it's not that much of a change, but enough to keep teams like West Virginia from jacking up 40+ threes in a game. It's pretty ridiculous how much the three is exploited in college basketball right now, the time is right for change. It would make the games fairer, and would not detract from the excitement at all, in my opinion. If the difference is only 9" will it really mean anything? That's what, not even 4%? Is that going to change coaching philosphies and game plans?
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Post by hoyarooter on May 2, 2005 12:30:02 GMT -5
I agree with Sir Saxa. There may be a short term effect, but any player that can make himself into a decent shooter from 19'9" should be able to do the same from 20'6".
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Post by EasyEd on May 4, 2005 18:15:53 GMT -5
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