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Post by aleutianhoya on Jun 20, 2016 10:04:02 GMT -5
Since we're talking about 95-96, let's look at the numbers in that series. The Bulls won the Finals in six games (after being up 3-0). Jordan averaged a healthy 27 points, 4 assists and 5 boards. But in the last three games of the series (two losses and a game 6 win), Jordan averaged 23 points on an average of 7/20 from the field, including 11% from three. He put up pretty good (though not great) "counting" numbers, but on a percentage basis, he simply wasn't all that great. Curry was a very similar 6/19 from the field last night -- he didn't shoot as many FTs, so he had a handful fewer points -- but his game 7 performance "stinkeroo" wasn't that much different from what Jordan did in the final three games of the 95-96 series. And overall for the series? Curry averaged 23 points, 4 assists, and 5 boards. Four fewer points per game; same numbers otherwise. Jordan is the greatest player of all-time -- I'm not taking anything away from him -- but I don't think it's fair to Curry to overstate Jordan's level of performance relative to Curry's. Not for nothing, the greatness of LeBron is his ability to positively affect the game in so many different ways even when he isn't shooting well. The casual basketball fan doesn't always appreciate the "easy" assists and the rebounds, but they're obviously vital. And yet my eyes tell me that there is no way Jordan tosses in a stinker in Game 7 at home with the title on the line. How many awful turnovers including the behind the back pass to the fans? Other than one very long three to tie the game relatively late, Curry should have stayed home and tweeted with his obnoxious wife. And of course you may be right. We can't know because it didn't happen. But we do know that Curry had 4 TOs per game these last three games....Jordan averaged 4 TOs per game in those final three games. I have no recollection of how many were "awful" for Jordan. For that matter, I can't readily identify Curry's turnovers (aside from the behind the back pass and one other no-look pass into the middle of the court that got deflected). Curry didn't play well; no argument from me.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jun 20, 2016 14:26:55 GMT -5
Hi jerrylh. How you doing? You can't compare different eras because ofthe way the game is called, with the biggest change being allowing moving picks. Tristan Thompson played like an NFL offensive lineman in this series - he didn't just pick a player; at times he literally blocked them backwards in the process. Can you imagine Magic being able to run a pick and roll with Worthy under today's rules? Jordan and Pippen? And how about Curry driving the lane against the 90s' Knicks? He'd been in the hospital by game 2 of a 7 game series. And no one would've even fouled out.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 20, 2016 16:30:29 GMT -5
You can't compare different eras because ofthe way the game is called, with the biggest change being allowing moving picks. Tristan Thompson played like an NFL offensive lineman in this series - he didn't just pick a player; at times he literally blocked them backwards in the process. Can you imagine Magic being able to run a pick and roll with Worthy under today's rules? Jordan and Pippen? And how about Curry driving the lane against the 90s' Knicks? He'd been in the hospital by game 2 of a 7 game series. And no one would've even fouled out. I think the biggest change is the disallowance of hand checking (grabbing) by defenders. Can you imagine Jordan playing under today's rules? No defender would be able to stop him 1-on-1.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 20, 2016 16:49:26 GMT -5
Holy crap - basketball discussion? Don't you people know it's the offseason?
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Post by SaxaCD on Jun 20, 2016 22:12:06 GMT -5
You can't compare different eras because ofthe way the game is called, with the biggest change being allowing moving picks. Tristan Thompson played like an NFL offensive lineman in this series - he didn't just pick a player; at times he literally blocked them backwards in the process. Can you imagine Magic being able to run a pick and roll with Worthy under today's rules? Jordan and Pippen? And how about Curry driving the lane against the 90s' Knicks? He'd been in the hospital by game 2 of a 7 game series. And no one would've even fouled out. I think the biggest change is the disallowance of hand checking (grabbing) by defenders. Can you imagine Jordan playing under today's rules? No defender would be able to stop him 1-on-1. I thought he was the guy who they modeled the new rules after? He always got that call, when everybody else in the league didn't. They merely extended those priveleges to the unwashed a few years ago.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 20, 2016 22:42:44 GMT -5
It seems to me that the Bulls would have matched up really well with the Warriors on the defensive end. I don't think the Warriors would have been able to stop Jordan. That said, I think Iguodala would have a huge series in that matchup.
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