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Post by EtomicB on Aug 27, 2015 14:00:03 GMT -5
zagsblog.com/recruiting/myles-powell-cuts-to-5-schools/Cut Gtown today.. I was hoping he'd still be open after the staff was done with other visits.. Powell would have been a nice fall back plan.. I realize he had some shortcomings but I believe his ability to shoot and score the ball outweighed the negatives..
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Post by sleepy on Aug 27, 2015 14:10:01 GMT -5
I felt the same way. Still a little concerned that our backcourt recruiting may go the way of last year by missing out on some highly rated recruits and we may be left scrambling come the spring.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 27, 2015 16:53:54 GMT -5
zagsblog.com/recruiting/myles-powell-cuts-to-5-schools/Cut Gtown today.. I was hoping he'd still be open after the staff was done with other visits.. Powell would have been a nice fall back plan.. I realize he had some shortcomings but I believe his ability to shoot and score the ball outweighed the negatives.. Not really a loss. The worst thing that could have happened is him immediately accepting now and taking a slot away from 7th/Brown/Jones. It would have also made for a very crowded back court and made it harder to land one and made it impossible to land two of 7th/Brown/Jones.
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 27, 2015 17:39:11 GMT -5
zagsblog.com/recruiting/myles-powell-cuts-to-5-schools/Cut Gtown today.. I was hoping he'd still be open after the staff was done with other visits.. Powell would have been a nice fall back plan.. I realize he had some shortcomings but I believe his ability to shoot and score the ball outweighed the negatives.. Not really a loss. The worst thing that could have happened is him immediately accepting now and taking a slot away from 7th/Brown/Jones.It would have also made for a very crowded back court and made it harder to land one and made it impossible to land two of 7th/Brown/Jones. No, the worst thing that can happen is to look up 2-3 months from now and 7th/Brown/Jones have signed elsewhere.. It's not far fetched at all to see that scenario play out.. A bird that shoots 40+% from 3 in the hand beats 2 high flying/dunking birds in the bush imo.. I saw this tweet earlier today and I like the part about "level & fit" a lot.. Level is a given, all 4 kids can play at the HM level.. Both Brown & 7th have more talent/upside than Jones & Powell but I don't think they're better fits to the system JT3 runs or the kids currently on the roster..
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 27, 2015 17:52:38 GMT -5
Not really a loss. The worst thing that could have happened is him immediately accepting now and taking a slot away from 7th/Brown/Jones.It would have also made for a very crowded back court and made it harder to land one and made it impossible to land two of 7th/Brown/Jones. No, the worst thing that can happen is to look up 2-3 months from now and 7th/Brown/Jones have signed elsewhere.. It's not far fetched at all to see that scenario play out.. A bird that shoots 40+% from 3 in the hand beats 2 high flying/dunking birds in the bush imo.. I saw this tweet earlier today and I like the part about "level & fit" a lot.. Level is a given, all 4 kids can play at the HM level.. Both Brown & 7th have more talent/upside than Jones & Powell but I don't think they're better fits to the system JT3 runs or the kids currently on the roster.. Yet you yourself consider Powell a "fall back plan". If he were really a better fit then he wouldn't be the "fall back plan".
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 27, 2015 19:46:18 GMT -5
No, the worst thing that can happen is to look up 2-3 months from now and 7th/Brown/Jones have signed elsewhere.. It's not far fetched at all to see that scenario play out.. A bird that shoots 40+% from 3 in the hand beats 2 high flying/dunking birds in the bush imo.. I saw this tweet earlier today and I like the part about "level & fit" a lot.. Level is a given, all 4 kids can play at the HM level.. Both Brown & 7th have more talent/upside than Jones & Powell but I don't think they're better fits to the system JT3 runs or the kids currently on the roster.. Yet you yourself consider Powell a "fall back plan". If he were really a better fit then he wouldn't be the "fall back plan". He was a fall back plan because the staff was obviously chasing other kids harder than him but I don't think that has anything to do with fit.. I prefer to get a shooter to help replace what will be lost with DSR.. It really doesn't matter now but if you're so inclined go watch clips to see how Powell gets his points & you'll see what I mean about fit, not only is he a high level shooter but he can get his without dominating the ball which is big in JT3's system..
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Post by BeantownHoya on Sept 19, 2015 12:37:26 GMT -5
To Seton Hall good get for them and the big east
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 19, 2015 12:52:01 GMT -5
To Seton Hall good get for them and the big east Agreed.. Powell doesn't fit the profile many are looking for but his production level is high..
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 14, 2020 17:50:04 GMT -5
Someone linked this thread in the Walton thread. Many of these comments aged like vinegar haha
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Post by BeantownHoya on Feb 14, 2020 18:32:42 GMT -5
To Seton Hall good get for them and the big east I stand by comment though!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 14, 2020 20:27:55 GMT -5
We still love you YaBoyđđ
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 14, 2020 21:09:01 GMT -5
Yeah, have to admit a quick review of this thread gave me a good laugh. Aged like vinegar, indeed. Recruiting, the most inexact science. Powell is to the Hall as Charles Smith was to GU.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 14, 2020 21:13:29 GMT -5
Yeah, have to admit a quick review of this thread gave me a good laugh. Aged like vinegar, indeed. Recruiting, the most inexact science. Powell is to the Hall as Charles Smith was to GU. To be fair, Powell's transformation of his body isn't the typical scenario. That's not even including all he's added to his game. Huge tip of the cap to him for turning into the player he's become. He's example 1A of what one can do with a crapload of hard work. I hate watching him play against our Hoyas and there are plenty of reasons for that. Respect to that man.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 14, 2020 22:33:18 GMT -5
Yeah, have to admit a quick review of this thread gave me a good laugh. Aged like vinegar, indeed. Recruiting, the most inexact science. Powell is to the Hall as Charles Smith was to GU. To be fair, Powell's transformation of his body isn't the typical scenario. That's not even including all he's added to his game. Huge tip of the cap to him for turning into the player he's become. He's example 1A of what one can do with a crapload of hard work. I hate watching him play against our Hoyas and there are plenty of reasons for that. Respect to that man. Yeah the way he lost weight during the summer before his freshman year was ridiculous. Anyways, I didnât mean to turn this into a thing. It was just funny to me that the comments on the Kerwin Walton thread sounded like they were copied and pasted from this thread. I donât mean to imply that Kerwin Walton will be the next Myles Powell. Just that not every player on the roster needs to be explosive and athletic. Ewingâs top two targets this year were RJ Davis and Terrance Williams, and neither of them fit that description. So itâs clear that Ewing wants to bring shooters in next year to balance with the skills of the other players on the roster.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 14, 2020 22:39:19 GMT -5
To be fair, Powell's transformation of his body isn't the typical scenario. That's not even including all he's added to his game. Huge tip of the cap to him for turning into the player he's become. He's example 1A of what one can do with a crapload of hard work. I hate watching him play against our Hoyas and there are plenty of reasons for that. Respect to that man. Yeah the way he lost weight during the summer before his freshman year was ridiculous. Anyways, I didnât mean to turn this into a thing. It was just funny to me that the comments on the Kerwin Walton thread sounded like they were copied and pasted from this thread. I donât mean to imply that Kerwin Walton will be the next Myles Powell. Just that not every player on the roster needs to be explosive and athletic. Ewingâs top two targets this year were RJ Davis and Terrance Williams, and neither of them fit that description. So itâs clear that Ewing wants to bring shooters in next year to balance with the skills of the other players on the roster. Points taken. And a good opportunity to acknowledge a guy that has come a long way in our conference and set an incredibly high bar that others should hope to emulate. I appreciate both the comparison and the reflection. Instructive on both counts. Thanks for the callback. I think it's a good one.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 14, 2020 23:13:45 GMT -5
Yeah the way he lost weight during the summer before his freshman year was ridiculous. Anyways, I didnât mean to turn this into a thing. It was just funny to me that the comments on the Kerwin Walton thread sounded like they were copied and pasted from this thread. I donât mean to imply that Kerwin Walton will be the next Myles Powell. Just that not every player on the roster needs to be explosive and athletic. Ewingâs top two targets this year were RJ Davis and Terrance Williams, and neither of them fit that description. So itâs clear that Ewing wants to bring shooters in next year to balance with the skills of the other players on the roster. Points taken. And a good opportunity to acknowledge a guy that has come a long way in our conference and set an incredibly high bar that others should hope to emulate. I appreciate both the comparison and the reflection. Instructive on both counts. Thanks for the callback. I think it's a good one. Most importantly, ignore the height bias! Itâs not like Powell grew a few inches too. Take the player with the biggest cojones that will not ruin team chemistry and who hopefully is a leader.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 10:50:47 GMT -5
We still love you YaBoyđđ Actually tame compared to how I used to talk about him in a private setting lol. Tbf the kid was barely 6ft and about 40 lbs overweight at the time. On the flip side he destroyed everything that summer, and it didn't stop him from averaging about 20ppg for Playaz that summer. Like I mentioned in the Brandon Murray thread I was totally wrong about him. Etomic was totally right. Btw, I'm still not a fan. He plays for Seton Hall, are you? JK heck of a player.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2020 10:57:13 GMT -5
Similar to El-Amin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 11:21:24 GMT -5
We still love you YaBoyđđ Actually tame compared to how I used to talk about him in a private setting lol. Tbf the kid was barely 6ft and about 40 lbs overweight at the time. On the flip side he destroyed everything that summer, and it didn't stop him from averaging about 20ppg for Playaz that summer. Like I mentioned in the Brandon Murray thread I was totally wrong about him. Etomic was totally right. Btw, I'm still not a fan. He plays for Seton Hall, are you? JK heck of a player. I wouldn't worry about it Yaboy. By the logic of Hoyatalk, since Mac has a higher KenPom offensive rating he would start ahead of Powell if he were here anyway.
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 15, 2020 14:16:35 GMT -5
From ESPN: Strengths: Powell is one of the best three-point shooters in the country. He's virtually automatic when his feet are set and already owns range out to the NBA arc. He's very adept at getting his shot off in a number of ways and is equally capable of coming off screens, pulling up from deep off the dribble or finding a spot in transition. He'll make shots in bunches and when he gets going he's one of the few players in the country who can win a game for his team from beyond the three-point line. He's also proven that he can be a high level scorer even as the focal point of opposing defenses, in large part because of his ability to make tough shots. Weaknesses: Powell is undersized for the two-guard position and not an explosive athlete. He's going to have constant challenge keeping up with quicker and more athletic guards on the defensive end of the floor and also is never going to blow by anybody off the dribble or play above the rim. His conditioning has gradually improving over the years, but he'll benefit from being in a college weight room on a full time basis and being able to cut-up his frame for the first time. Everything he gets offensively is based on the threat of his jumper and so, for a volume scorer, he doesn't have very many ways to get easy buckets. Bottom Line: He doesn't fit the physical or athletic profile of a high-major prospect but he has one special skill that he does as well, if not better, than any other prospect in the country and so he's the exception to the rule. OK so, kid from Jersey is: - Undersized for his position
- Not an explosive athlete
- Not a good defender
- Not particularly skilled in any other facet
- But boy can he shoot it!
He sounds like a guard equivalent of Reggie Cameron. Maybe I am a little burned by the last couple of kids we landed who were "among the best 3 point shooters in the country" and "virtually automatic" coming to Georgetown, but I'm a little hesitant about kids with this profile. It's of course true that Powell is a completely different person than Domingo and Cameron and there's not any reason to think his shooting ability would vanish the way theirs did. But it's certainly a risk putting all of your eggs in one basket and assuming that that single skill will translate at the next level, isn't it? I personally prefer a kid like Brown or Mosley. Give me a kid who has excellent athleticism and measurables and I'll work on his jump shot over the course of four years in the program. If it turns out that he doesn't have the aptitude to be a shooter, at least he always has his athleticism and he can contribute defensively and by taking the ball to the basket. If you get a guy whose only real skill is that he can shoot and it turns out he can't make it work at the college level, then he's just a total non-factor who is a DNP most nights. Best case scenario IMO is to pair an athletic, high ceiling type (like Mosley or Brown) with a kid who can fill it up but also has some athleticism (like Jones). But I'm not too keen on a guy whose entire game is predicated on being a shooter and who is a minus in just about every other area. Lol
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