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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 29, 2015 15:44:10 GMT -5
5-4 bad guys. Almost a save/miss on BC's last one. Can't let it get that far.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 29, 2015 15:45:12 GMT -5
Horrible loss. Disappointing end to the season.
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Post by Filo on Nov 29, 2015 15:48:03 GMT -5
Disappointing way to end a truly great season. Wish it ended better, but very proud of the team.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 29, 2015 15:48:26 GMT -5
All credit to BC. They controlled most of the game and had the better chances. Unlike UVA, they did not go into a shell (until the last two minutes of the second OT).
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 29, 2015 16:12:26 GMT -5
I haven't felt like this since Davidson. Only colder. Except I doubt that Soccer Steph Curry is on BC.
It's heartbreaking, it really is. But I'm taking solace in the fact that Georgetown (and Big East) soccer is in a very different place than basketball was back then. Where 07-08 to this day stands as the high watermark of the past some 25 years for hoops, I don't believe for a minute that soccer will shake out similarly.
There will never be another Josh Yaro, Brandon Allen, or Cole Seiler, and it's painfully disappointing that they've worn the Hoya shirt for the last time. But they will go down as Founding Fathers of a Georgetown program respected nationally as top-flight, and there will be no shortage of other memorable names that will join them in the all-time Pantheon.
Looking forward to seeing some of these guys play in the pros (hopefully not as Red Bulls).
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 29, 2015 16:17:35 GMT -5
I haven't felt like this since Davidson. Only colder. Except I doubt that Soccer Steph Curry is on BC. It's heartbreaking, it really is. But I'm taking solace in the fact that Georgetown (and Big East) soccer is in a very different place than basketball was back then. Where 07-08 to this day stands as the high watermark of the past some 25 years for hoops, I don't believe for a minute that soccer will shake out similarly. There will never be another Josh Yaro, Brandon Allen, or Cole Seiler, and it's painfully disappointing that they've worn the Hoya shirt for the last time. But they will go down as Founding Fathers of a Georgetown program respected nationally as top-flight, and there will be no shortage of other memorable names that will join them in the all-time Pantheon. Looking forward to seeing some of these guys play in the pros (hopefully not as Red Bulls). Yeah, I feel awful about it. At the end of last season, when Yaro stayed, I thought we'd win the title. Feels extremely disappointing.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 29, 2015 16:24:13 GMT -5
Coach on the hot seat, can't get it done in the tourney (kidding, kidding!). A frustrating end to a great season. Get to work tomorrow men, remember this feeling. Hoya Saxa.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 29, 2015 16:25:05 GMT -5
Hoyas going with a PK specialist in goal. We gotta recruit a better "specialist".
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 29, 2015 16:36:46 GMT -5
I hate PKs....
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Post by whatmaroon on Nov 29, 2015 17:16:20 GMT -5
PKs are the worst way of deciding a game in any sport that I'm aware of. I'm bummed out, and Rosenberry almost certainly feels awful for missing the PK. Crap ending to a great career for him and the others.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 29, 2015 17:41:07 GMT -5
They had as good a chance as anyone to win the whole thing. Frankly, they did last year too. Very disappointing. They certainly have some internal pieces to plug in, but they lose an awful lot. It's awfully hard to replace your entire back-line.
I absolutely love their style of play (as I've said so many times). And I wouldn't change it for the world. But the one weakness in playing that style is that you're very reliant on having a great majority of your players having a high-quality game at the same time when you face a decent team. Obviously, we have the skill to do it far more often than not.
But today we just had a handful of guys that had uncharacteristically poor games. And the one thing (really, incredibly, literally the one thing) this team didn't possess was a true target striker with speed to lay-off to. So if the ball control isn't working, we don't have the speed and personnel to play a quick counter or long-ball type game (like, say, a BC did effectively today). Creighton is a good example of a very good team that can do both. Not nearly as good as we are defensively or in the ball control / passing, but they are good in those areas and also can effectively play the long ball.
The entire key to building a true top-level program is to only take a slight step back. When the Virginias or the Indianas (or, as much as it pains me, the Marylands) have a "down" year, that almost always means they're still comfortably making the NCAAs and flirting with a national ranking. I'm not sure we can compete for a national title realistically next year (unless Yaro inexplicably returns or the soccer gods give us a well-earned good bounce or three in the tournament), but hopefully the step back is small and the rise back to the very top quick.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 29, 2015 17:49:41 GMT -5
PKs are the worst way of deciding a game in any sport that I'm aware of. I'm bummed out, and Rosenberry almost certainly feels awful for missing the PK. Crap ending to a great career for him and the others. The college game gets so much criticism from "purists" for the differences in rules from the international game, but I think having the clock count down makes so much more sense, and I'm not offended at all by limited substitution allowances, since it keeps the game at a fairly high pace throughout (although I might do it a bit differently than they do it). So, I'd love to see the college game experiment in this area too. When I was in high school (eons ago), in postseason play, they had five minute golden goal periods sort of like this, with the teams switching sides after each one. But the trick was that after each one, each team had to take one player off the field until it got to 7 v 7. You could sub guys. But obviously it opened up the game a ton. It's still a bit goofy, but at least it resembles soccer. I've also seen youth tournaments where instead of PKs, each team takes five corners with 6 or 7 guys allowed on the field. Again, at least it's a soccer play. Heck, fifty years ago, games were often decided by which team had earned more corners during the regular game with the rationale being (sort of like going to the judges' cards in boxing) that whichever team had more corners had won the game on style points. It's incredible to me that PKs still decide big games. It's actually inexplicable to me that the pros do it. It'd be like the NCAA Basketball Final coming down to each team picking five guys to shoot one foul shot with their off hand.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 29, 2015 18:01:56 GMT -5
I am just sick to death for Coach and the boys. Such an awful random way to end a game. This was one terrific soccer season and as fine a collection of young men as you could hope to have represent Georgetown.
I Harv no doubt that Coach will reload and the program will stay strong. That said, I am sad to see this group go. My only solace is knowing I will see several of them in MLS.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 29, 2015 19:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 29, 2015 20:33:59 GMT -5
Given the recruiting lately, I think we are there with UVa and MD. I think we'll be making the NCAAs every year. And, even in down years we can do what those teams have done. It's just a shame because like everyone said, this was as loaded as we ever were.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 29, 2015 21:22:41 GMT -5
Disappointed for the boys. Great season and to lose to the traitors is not the way anybody (at least anybody who has a good idea of right and wrong) wanted it to be.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 29, 2015 21:33:31 GMT -5
Hoyas going with a PK specialist in goal. We gotta recruit a better "specialist". Mitchell Auer is 6'5. I have to assume that they went into the match with the plan of him taking PKs if it got to that point. I understand it, and Weiss took a gamble on it and opened himself up to criticism by making that move. So I respect him putting himself on the Line like that, even if it didn't work out. Having said that... I probably stick with JT. I know our last tourney PK experience with a freshman wasn't so hot (note that Arun didn't take a kick this time), even with said player being conference Freshman of the Year, but... JT is something else. I can't sit here and pretend I'm qualified to second-guess Weiss when it comes to keepers, of all positions. But I do feel a bit of regret that we didn't dance with the one that brung us.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 29, 2015 21:47:38 GMT -5
We gotta recruit a better "specialist". Mitchell Auer is 6'5. I have to assume that they went into the match with the plan of him taking PKs if it got to that point. I understand it, and Weiss took a gamble on it and opened himself up to criticism by making that move. So I respect him putting himself on the Line like that, even if it didn't work out. Having said that... I probably stick with JT. I know our last tourney PK experience with a freshman wasn't so hot (note that Arun didn't take a kick this time), even with said player being conference Freshman of the Year, but... JT is something else. I can't sit here and pretend I'm qualified to second-guess Weiss when it comes to keepers, of all positions. But I do feel a bit of regret that we didn't dance with the one that brung us. They would have practiced them an awful lot leading up to the tournaments. And you have to assume Auer was a significant upgrade in those practices. So I didn't have any issue with it. It really is a specialized skill.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 30, 2015 10:15:53 GMT -5
I am still gutted for them. Of course, I am sure the boys are gutted even more.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 3, 2015 11:07:41 GMT -5
In just another example of what champions they really are, the Men's Soccer team (many if not all) had their hair buzzed to raise money for the St. Baldrick's charity which raises money for pediatric cancer research.
This team, led by this Coach, is about as fine a representative of Georgetown as one could ever hope for.
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