njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 17, 2015 13:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 17, 2015 13:17:28 GMT -5
Of course he is - mediocre record and clearly lacks control of the program. Easiest article of the year to write.
Most interesting part of that piece was speculation that Gibbs may transfer out for his final season.
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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Feb 17, 2015 13:18:21 GMT -5
He has to be. Team body language is poor. Sina just left the team last week and now frustration thuggery fouls and ejections. Seems like he's losing control.
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Post by Buckets on Feb 17, 2015 13:43:03 GMT -5
Of course he is - mediocre record and clearly lacks control of the program. Easiest article of the year to write. Most interesting part of that piece was speculation that Gibbs may transfer out for his final season. Interesting. That tidbit seems like total speculation on the author's behalf, but if he is graduating and looking to transfer, call him up! There was discussion in the Hardnett thread under recruiting about if we've ever taken a fifth-year player. Considering that we had interest in Anthony Lee, I don't think there's any aversion to it. It's just that you're restricted to guys who can play at a high-major level who graduated in four years and for whatever reason (voluntary redshirt, transfer, injury) missed a season and thus have a fifth year of eligibility. Since most kids in this situation are probably transferring for playing time and aren't very good, we're pretty much restricted to seeing if there's a guy who fits the above criteria who is the one good player on a high-major dumpster fire of a team. This basically limits you to one Byron Wesley per year. If it's Gibbs this year and he can transfer within conference, we ought to gauge interest. |
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 17, 2015 14:05:13 GMT -5
Willard has the support of the AD, so I doubt he will be forced to resign or fired. However, he has completely lost control of his team and the results will follow. If he continue to coach a non-competitive team, the AD will have no choice. Right now, I do not know if SHU can recover from this mess.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 17, 2015 14:49:10 GMT -5
On NY's Eve, I attended the SJU @ SHU game in Newark. The Hall looked so good. Delgado was an effective, first year front court player with size and hops. Sina and Gibbs looked terrific as the starting guards, backed up by Carrington. Five star freshman Whitehead had been playing better and better until breaking his foot, but he was expected back later in the season. The team looked very good as they knocked off a strong SJU team that was 11-1 and ranked #15 at the time.
To see how they have collapsed since then.... mind boggling. Very sad. And yes, Willard certainly deserves scrutiny for what has happened. I don't follow the team closely enough to know what has happened. But they looked pretty dysfunctional when we played them - that early 22-4 lead, then they got it together and tied us at 44, before our guys took it to them again and won going away.
There is a lot of talent on that team and it would be great for the BE if they could have continued to play well. After seeing them back on 12/31, there is no way I would have predicted what has happened since. Too bad.
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Post by wrestlemania on Feb 17, 2015 17:47:56 GMT -5
Classic case of be careful what you wish for. Louis Orr had a perfectly respectable record, but they ran him off because he was introverted and wasn't comfortable pressing the flesh with the alumni (also brought his religious beliefs into his pressers, but that's hardly cause for termination if you're winning). The SHU brass thought top shelf coaches would flock to work in New Jersey, but they couldn't do better than zany Bobby Go and then Willard.
Sadly enough, Willard may be their best option for the time being, especially if Whitehead leaves. Just not a good situation unless the school comes across with huge dollars to attract a rising star. But I don't see the Archie Millers of the world being interested.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 18, 2015 0:04:43 GMT -5
Classic case of be careful what you wish for. Louis Orr had a perfectly respectable record, but they ran him off because he was introverted and wasn't comfortable pressing the flesh with the alumni (also brought his religious beliefs into his pressers, but that's hardly cause for termination if you're winning). This is a really good point that should be taken under consideration by any team that wants to replace their coach, especially one that has seen success. |
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Post by dungeon ball on Feb 20, 2015 13:47:17 GMT -5
Whitehead might be the most destructive player on a team I've ever seen. And I just mean on the court. He makes horrible descions with the ball, plays no defense, and shoots a ton.
Who's been worse? The Cincy team with Lance Stephenson wasn't even like this, right?
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 20, 2015 14:08:14 GMT -5
Classic case of be careful what you wish for. Louis Orr had a perfectly respectable record, but they ran him off because he was introverted and wasn't comfortable pressing the flesh with the alumni (also brought his religious beliefs into his pressers, but that's hardly cause for termination if you're winning). This is a really good point that should be taken under consideration by any team that wants to replace their coach, especially one that has seen success. Agreed. They should probably have a really good idea of whether they can hire a rising star replacement (like one of the Hurleys) before they decide whether to fire Willard. Presumably, this is the kind of thing that can be accomplished discretely. That being said, I really hate the attitude of "well, this is the best they can do" when you are a major conference school in an area with a lot of good local talent. There is no reason Seton Hall can't be a consistent NCAA team--all they have to do is hire a good coach and support him. Picking the right replacement for the slightly above average coach is the key--a lot of people like to use the firing of Glen Mason by Minnesota as evidence of what can happen if a team won't accept their place as a mediocre / slightly above average program, but the problem there wasn't that the Gophers fired Mason, who had run his course, but that they chose Tim Brewster instead of Charlie Strong. An example of doing it the right way was Georgetown replacing Esherick with JT3 and then providing JT3 the institutional support he needs to be successful. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 20, 2015 14:16:09 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 20, 2015 17:22:09 GMT -5
Sad, but true, story ExcerptsWest Virginia put together a more intriguing package for the Hargett family. Mike [Jonathan's brother] Hargett’s wife, Joy, said that West Virginia planned on hiring her husband for a low-level staff position, which was allowable under N.C.A.A. rules. Mike Hargett had worked for the West Virginia assistant Chris Cheeks at a Richmond high school years before. Jonathan Hargett did not want to go to West Virginia, but he said that he was offered $20,000 a year to go there and that he committed at Mike’s urging.
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Dakich decided that the situation at West Virginia was out of control and, after eight days, decided to return to Bowling Green.
“What I found was a culture of dishonesty and that had been there for a while,” he said of West Virginia. For its part, West Virginia conducted an internal review of the program, which was forwarded to the N.C.A.A., that found no wrongdoing on the part of the university. [Surprise] |
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Post by wrestlemania on Feb 26, 2015 19:25:45 GMT -5
Whitehead might be the most destructive player on a team I've ever seen. And I just mean on the court. He makes horrible descions with the ball, plays no defense, and shoots a ton. Who's been worse? The Cincy team with Lance Stephenson wasn't even like this, right? I think Stevenson dialed back his act at Cincinnati -- no trouble that I can remember. The Seton Hall team with Eddie Griffin was pretty toxic. |
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