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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 20, 2015 23:00:46 GMT -5
It's worth serious consideration, I think. As a matter of fact, he seems at least as good as DSR with the handle.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 20, 2015 23:06:39 GMT -5
It's worth serious consideration, I think. As a matter of fact, he seems at least as good as DSR with the handle. I think so. If he's going to make it at the next level he's a little short for an NBA small forward. Needs to work on his outside shot though, especially if he's going to transition to that position.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 20, 2015 23:11:08 GMT -5
He's a guard now. The only thing about him that is a forward is his official listing. Or did you mean PG?
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 20, 2015 23:29:08 GMT -5
He's a guard now. The only thing about him that is a forward is his official listing. Or did you mean PG? yep, he also participated in the CP3 camp that mainly invites guards
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 21, 2015 1:04:34 GMT -5
He's a guard now. The only thing about him that is a forward is his official listing. Or did you mean PG? This. Dude is already a guard. Simply lacks a reliable shot at this time.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 21, 2015 7:52:20 GMT -5
Though he is improving, he still needs to continue to develop his defense in both man and zone.
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Jan 21, 2015 8:37:42 GMT -5
Loved his scoring and activity to open the Nova game, but the young man has to connect on his free throw opportunities. They will be abundant over time for him, and guards / scorers make a living at the line! Just ask DSR of late. Or James Harden for that matter.
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Post by mfk24 on Jan 21, 2015 9:23:55 GMT -5
In all likelihood Peak moves to the 2 next year and splits time with DSR if/when Tre is in the game at the same time. I'm unsure who else we have to play the 2 really anyway unless we pick up another 2015 guard.
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Post by chep3 on Jan 21, 2015 10:01:36 GMT -5
No way should Peak ever be a PG anywhere. DSR isn't all that good a fit, but I like the move for him because he has to show that skill to have a shot at the NBA. Putting Peak on the ball just because he's a good ballhandler is a terrible idea for his development. Kid needs to score.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 21, 2015 10:11:10 GMT -5
In all likelihood Peak moves to the 2 next year and splits time with DSR if/when Tre is in the game at the same time. I'm unsure who else we have to play the 2 really anyway unless we pick up another 2015 guard. IMO: @1: DSR/Tre/Peak @2: DSR/Peak/White With more tall bodies coming in next year, Cope and Cameron (if still here) can also play 2.
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Post by Filo on Jan 21, 2015 10:19:04 GMT -5
No way should Peak ever be a PG anywhere. DSR isn't all that good a fit, but I like the move for him because he has to show that skill to have a shot at the NBA. Putting Peak on the ball just because he's a good ballhandler is a terrible idea for his development. Kid needs to score.
Serious questions regarding DSR - not being belligerent:
Are you basing the fit comment on DSR's freshman year? Did you watch the Nova game? What about DSR's performance suggests that he isn't a good fit at the point? The main issue to me is that it takes away from his effectiveness as a scorer since he has primary ball-handling duties. But that's about it as far as I can see.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 12:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 21, 2015 12:37:29 GMT -5
In all likelihood Peak moves to the 2 next year and splits time with DSR if/when Tre is in the game at the same time. I'm unsure who else we have to play the 2 really anyway unless we pick up another 2015 guard. IMO: @1: DSR/Tre/Peak @2: DSR/Peak/White With more tall bodies coming in next year, Cope and Cameron (if still here) can also play 2. I don't ever see White as a 2 guard, no matter how many bigs we get.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 21, 2015 12:39:29 GMT -5
He's as good as or better at handling pressure than everyone on our team not named DSR, so why not?
Re: White
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Post by chep3 on Jan 21, 2015 13:16:54 GMT -5
No way should Peak ever be a PG anywhere. DSR isn't all that good a fit, but I like the move for him because he has to show that skill to have a shot at the NBA. Putting Peak on the ball just because he's a good ballhandler is a terrible idea for his development. Kid needs to score.
Serious questions regarding DSR - not being belligerent:
Are you basing the fit comment on DSR's freshman year? Did you watch the Nova game? What about DSR's performance suggests that he isn't a good fit at the point? The main issue to me is that it takes away from his effectiveness as a scorer since he has primary ball-handling duties. But that's about it as far as I can see. That's it for me too. I think he's a very good ballhandler, and fine beating the press. I think he on the whole makes good decisions and is a good passer. But he's hardwired as a scorer, and having him set up the offense for others or penetrate and look to kick requires him to look for someone else to score, not himself. I think it's hurting his shooting this year, and I think it's made him more passive as an offensive threat. And I think he puts more pressure on the defense when he's looking to score first and passing second as opposed to the other way around. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the move. He's the best option we have, and I think it's a good thing for the program to do for him--i.e., it's looking out for his (future) best interests. But it's not without its warts. And we should definitely not do the same thing with Peak.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 21, 2015 13:36:36 GMT -5
I don't see why we would make Peak a PG as long as Campbell and White are on the roster with him. Both of those guys have more PG-related skills than Peak, who as somebody above said, is a hard wired scorer.
If we're just talking "guard" to include the 2-guard role, that's what he is now.
Re: DSR, I think he's done a really nice job playing the role he's been asked to play this year. While we'd all like for his shooting to have been more consistent to this point, he's still the team's best all around player who has stepped up in crunch time in multiple close games. DSR's a tremendous college player who is on pace to be one of the all-time great guards in Georgetown history.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 22, 2015 18:22:56 GMT -5
My thought was Peak sharing some of the point responsibilities, especially if we don't get another one or two. Mentally, I have flirted with the idea of White or even Copeland, but I like both as forwards more. I do think those guys handle the ball well, don't get me wrong. However, Peak could still be a slasher and bring the ball up sometimes.
I also agree that it might be his best shot at getting to the NBA.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 22, 2015 20:52:57 GMT -5
My thought was Peak sharing some of the point responsibilities, especially if we don't get another one or two. Mentally, I have flirted with the idea of White or even Copeland, but I like both as forwards more. I do think those guys handle the ball well, don't get me wrong. However, Peak could still be a slasher and bring the ball up sometimes. I also agree that it might be his best shot at getting to the NBA. I think the role could be distributed, with Peak doing some of the "bringing the ball up" while White functions as a point-forward from the high post. I love that Peak, White, Copeland, Jabril, Tre, DSR and Bowen can all push the ball on break situations. The D can't just key on one guy bringing it upcourt quickly.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 22, 2015 21:07:08 GMT -5
He's as good as or better at handling pressure than everyone on our team not named DSR, so why not? Re: White Not as a ball handler. Maybe passing out of pressure.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 22, 2015 21:28:46 GMT -5
My thought was Peak sharing some of the point responsibilities, especially if we don't get another one or two. Mentally, I have flirted with the idea of White or even Copeland, but I like both as forwards more. I do think those guys handle the ball well, don't get me wrong. However, Peak could still be a slasher and bring the ball up sometimes. I also agree that it might be his best shot at getting to the NBA. I think the role could be distributed, with Peak doing some of the "bringing the ball up" while White functions as a point-forward from the high post. I love that Peak, White, Copeland, Jabril, Tre, DSR and Bowen can all push the ball on break situations. The D can't just key on one guy bringing it upcourt quickly. I'm looking forward more to next year. Trawick and Bowen are gone.
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