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Post by LizziebethHoya on Apr 11, 2014 14:14:29 GMT -5
How did the binding early action admission work? How exactly did they force an early accepted student to come? Was it a very large non-refundable deposit? A "binding early action" program is called Early Decision. "Early Action" is the terminology used specifically for non-binding programs. High non-refundable deposits is part of it. I'll let the Peterson's folks explain it in greater detail:Question: Is early decision 100% binding, and what if any, are ways to get out of this agreement? Are there legal ramifications in breaking this agreement? Thanks You. - leslie
Answer: Good question. The answer is no, the ED commitment is not, as we understand it, legally binding, at least in the sense that you will not be dragged in chains to the college, fined by it or the government, or sued for damages and tuition payments, if you decide not to go to the school that admitted you ED.
However, the ED commitment is binding in the college admissions process, and if you are found to have applied to other colleges after having been admitted ED someplace, or to have applied to more than one ED school, or to give up your ED choice for another college that has offered you admission, you will face the usual consequence of being blacklisted by the ED college. The school will try to contact your high school guidance office and other colleges that have admitted you to notify them of your breaking the agreement. These other colleges will most likely withdraw their admission offers, and you will be left with no choices for the fall.
The best thing to do if you have been admitted ED and have decided you do not want to attend, is to write a letter or call to explain your reasons, and to plan to take a gap year between high school and college. You can then apply to other colleges for the following fall.
If a college has admitted you ED, and then you have been admitted elsewhere, you need to contact both schools to discuss whether they will release you from the ED commitment and allow you to attend the other school.
Finally, insufficient financial aid is the only legitimate and explicitly approved reason to withdraw from the ED commitment. However, you should notify the ED college as soon as you receive the admission and financial aid offers from them (they are supposed to come at around the same time) and request to be released from the commitment, which they usually will do. Of course, then there may or may not be time to apply to other colleges by their deadlines, depending on when you applied ED, round one or two. And, you won't know if any other schools will eventually offer you better financial aid packages if they admit you.
For more on ED and EA policies, and other admission practices, see the National Association for College Admission Counseling Web site, www.nacacnet.org and their statement of principles of good practice. It's like you worked in admissions or something!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 11, 2014 15:04:55 GMT -5
It would seem adopting the common application would drive yields down. Would that be correct?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 11, 2014 15:31:48 GMT -5
It's like you worked in admissions or something! So have like 25% of our alumni, judging by the turnover rate in the office of late. I barely recognize half the people! It would seem adopting the common application would drive yields down. Would that be correct? Yar. Although, of course, your mileage will vary depending on the strength of your brand, peer cohort, etc. "We then estimate that membership increases applications by 5.7–7.0 percent and decreases yield rates by 2.8–3.9 percent. Acceptance rates decrease for members when their local networks are large." Liu, A.Y., Ehrenberg, R.G. & Mrdjenovic, J. (2007). Diffusion of common application membership and admissions outcomes at American colleges and universities [Electronic version]. digitalcommons.ilr.cornell.edu/workingpapers/140/
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Post by flyoverhoya on Apr 12, 2014 11:58:18 GMT -5
It's like you worked in admissions or something! So have like 25% of our alumni, judging by the turnover rate in the office of late. I barely recognize half the people! It would seem adopting the common application would drive yields down. Would that be correct? Yar. Although, of course, your mileage will vary depending on the strength of your brand, peer cohort, etc. "We then estimate that membership increases applications by 5.7–7.0 percent and decreases yield rates by 2.8–3.9 percent. Acceptance rates decrease for members when their local networks are large." Liu, A.Y., Ehrenberg, R.G. & Mrdjenovic, J. (2007). Diffusion of common application membership and admissions outcomes at American colleges and universities [Electronic version]. digitalcommons.ilr.cornell.edu/workingpapers/140/At least they're our alumni. Back whenI was a student, few admissions officers were. I distinctly remember showing up at the end of a presentation to lead a tour and listening to the officer answer a question by referring to a student group from Penn.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 18, 2014 8:32:23 GMT -5
So have like 25% of our alumni, judging by the turnover rate in the office of late. I barely recognize half the people! At least they're our alumni. Back whenI was a student, few admissions officers were. I distinctly remember showing up at the end of a presentation to lead a tour and listening to the officer answer a question by referring to a student group from Penn. Most, though not all... truthfully, I think it matters less at the upper levels, since those folks are old enough/far enough removed from their undergraduate days that no one is really looking to them to convey what undergraduate life is like on campus. So while it can definitely be noticeable among the younger admissions officers, who do get those sorts of questions, the older ones are both professional enough to have really done their homework and savvy enough to steer the conversation to where they want. For what it's worth, of the four Senior Associate Directors of Admissions, one is a Georgetown alumna, one went to UPenn for undergrad, one went to Princeton, and the fourth went to Gettysburg College and got an Ed.D at UPenn. They're all quite good at their jobs. Below that level, though, it's almost entirely Georgetown alumni.
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