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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 26, 2014 12:17:13 GMT -5
Well, we have tried. Lots of competition for guys that good.
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 26, 2014 12:28:08 GMT -5
I think if Shanoff is going to claim that Calipari chose winning over development, he's going to need to provide some kind of evidence, or at least a theory of how Calipari chose winning over development. Also, I highly doubt many good players are going to choose development over winning (nor am I sure how, exactly a coach like Calipari is making that choice. It's not like he plays stall ball, or a 2-3 zone, or some other style that stunts the development of players).
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Post by Buckets on Apr 26, 2014 13:16:20 GMT -5
I think if Shanoff is going to claim that Calipari chose winning over development, he's going to need to provide some kind of evidence, or at least a theory of how Calipari chose winning over development. Also, I highly doubt many good players are going to choose development over winning (nor am I sure how, exactly a coach like Calipari is making that choice. It's not like he plays stall ball, or a 2-3 zone, or some other style that stunts the development of players). If you surrounded Andrew with shooters so that he didn't have to finish against any sort of size inside and he could drive and kick he'd probably look better than he does. That's not Kentucky's roster though, they had a top 5 pick at power forward and two guys (who will also be there next year) who are NBA-caliber centers in Johnson and Cauley-Stein. So I'm not sure what you expect Calipari to do there. Also, Andrew was under 1.5 A/TO this year and had an eFG of 41.7%, so "better" isn't necessarily getting you into the first round because both of those are terrible. And he's the more intriguing pro prospect because of his size. Aaron has average size and athleticism for an NBA 2 and is a 36% 3-point shooter in college. For his position he's pretty much average at best by NBA standards in any facet of the game. Both kids benefited from being physically mature at an early age and now we're seeing what happens when everyone else catches up. They are not the first kids to dominate at the high school level and get exposed in college and they won't be the last either.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 26, 2014 14:40:10 GMT -5
so why not recruit one or two : "one and "done's" to compliment the quality recruits? I'm sure we would like to but the reality is without Worldwide Wes, huge boosters and the bag men who hand out the bags of money it's very difficult. Look what happened with the one and done Nerlen Noels. At the last second Worldwide Wes swept in and toon him away from Georgetown to UK. There are only a couple schools who can monopolize the one and dones (Kentucky, duke , Kansas, unc) and then 10 or so other big state schools that can pull some in every few years. For the other 200 schools the one and done isn't even an option.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 26, 2014 14:46:05 GMT -5
I think if Shanoff is going to claim that Calipari chose winning over development, he's going to need to provide some kind of evidence, or at least a theory of how Calipari chose winning over development. Also, I highly doubt many good players are going to choose development over winning (nor am I sure how, exactly a coach like Calipari is making that choice. It's not like he plays stall ball, or a 2-3 zone, or some other style that stunts the development of players). If you surrounded Andrew with shooters so that he didn't have to finish against any sort of size inside and he could drive and kick he'd probably look better than he does. That's not Kentucky's roster though, they had a top 5 pick at power forward and two guys (who will also be there next year) who are NBA-caliber centers in Johnson and Cauley-Stein. So I'm not sure what you expect Calipari to do there. Also, Andrew was under 1.5 A/TO this year and had an eFG of 41.7%, so "better" isn't necessarily getting you into the first round because both of those are terrible. And he's the more intriguing pro prospect because of his size. Aaron has average size and athleticism for an NBA 2 and is a 36% 3-point shooter in college. For his position he's pretty much average at best by NBA standards in any facet of the game. Both kids benefited from being physically mature at an early age and now we're seeing what happens when everyone else catches up. They are not the first kids to dominate at the high school level and get exposed in college and they won't be the last either. Honestly they are not as athletic as I expected them to be with their ranking. They are about average to below average athleticism at their nba positions and are not very quick. swing men are a dime a dozen in the NBA so the only one who really has a shot to be a star is the point guard Harrison but that is only if he is a true point guard and not a fake point guard like Evan Turner or other tall college PGs.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Apr 27, 2014 9:29:38 GMT -5
so why not recruit one or two : "one and "done's" to compliment the quality recruits? What a novel idea! Has anyone let Thompson in on this secret yet?
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 27, 2014 12:23:52 GMT -5
so why not recruit one or two : "one and "done's" to compliment the quality recruits? What a novel idea! Has anyone let Thompson in on this secret yet? troll !! Perhaps III is incapable of recruiting that caliber of player since Monroe. Otto is sitting on bench, so he is even missing the two and dones. It takes two or more great players to go deep in the tourney, or at least three scorers.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 27, 2014 13:56:55 GMT -5
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.
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