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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 12:19:12 GMT -5
Calipari is way too sophisticated for that. He makes sure his walk-ons have 4.0's and all graduate to bring up the average. He tries to get the one and dones to at least finish out their academic business-- or at least finds a way for them to leave in good standing.... Do walk-ons count towards the APR? If that were the case, why not just fill the walk-on slots with unathletic accounting majors (granted, that may be an oxymoron)? I think that's exactly what they -- and UCONN -- started doing. Or at least doing what we did for Caprio if they had extra available schollies, except I would suspect for less honorable motives....
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Post by This Just In on Apr 6, 2014 13:00:57 GMT -5
They don't have 8 McDonald's All Americans. We had 3 at one point (Chris Wright, Greg Monroe, Austin Freeman) but usually we are lucky to even have one. Had to check. It's 6 McDonald's All Americans with another one as an asterisk (Dawkins): McD's: Plumlee, A. Jefferson, R. Sulaimon, M. Jones, Q. Cook and J. Parker (6) McD's *: Dawkins: Bypassed senior year of high school to enroll at Duke in 2009; was #22 Scout, #16 Rivals, #10 ESPN. The others (not bad!): S. Ojeleye: Ranked No. 32 in the Recruiting Services Consensus Index. J. Hairston: Ranked 32nd by the Recruiting Services Consensus Index. R. Hood: Ranked No. 16 by Rivals, No. 30 in the ESPNU Top 100 list. T. Thornton: Washington D.C. Gatorade Player of the Year (2010). (BTW, Duke has the #1 2014 class coming in (the #1, #4, #15, #20 ESPN recruits) with 4 last-year players (no McD's AA players) who must leave the program.) So, basically, except for Thornton, their top 11 players were Top 35 or better coming out of high school. That's talent to match anyone, yet they don't. Why isn't ESPN writing an article about this? I wonder how JT3 would do with this kind of talent. What would HT be like if we were bounced in the first weekend of the NCAAs with that roster? We had 3 McDonald's AA @ the same time...(Wright, Freeman, Monroe)..starting too at 3 of the 5 positions..question is: 1. How many NCAA Tourney wins did they get?? 2. Is that the most MCDonald's AA's ever playing together at the same time for us??
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 6, 2014 18:00:20 GMT -5
A UConn win could make the ACC take another look at the Huskies. Would be happy for Ollie. But who could pull against the Harrison boys. GREAT family! Listening to the Poythress family member at game watch party as many as 8 Kentucky guys are considering entering the draft.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 18:06:43 GMT -5
A UConn win could make the ACC take another look at the Huskies. Would be happy for Ollie. But who could pull against the Harrison boys. GREAT family! Listening to the Poythress family member at game watch party as many as 8 Kentucky guys are considering entering the draft. Basketball results have very little to do with expansion at P5 conferences. As long as Uconn football is horrible they stay where they’re at inless Big 10 comes knocking.. ACC is already regarded as the Best B-Ball Conference so adding UConn gives them nothing...
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 6, 2014 19:27:13 GMT -5
Serious question here, with follow-ups, as compared to some of my smart-alecky postings: When the NCAA computes APR for each school, how does it account for the second semester of a player who "opts out" early, and stops attending classes? Does anyone believe that these one-and-dones are staying in their classes and working toward course credits when their basketball season is done? Do they simply withdraw from school, or do they get an appropriate grade for the class? How could that not adversely affect the school's APR? Or does it simply not count? I guess my question goes to how Kentucky, as an example, can keep these one-and-dones eligible for play in the second semester if they are not going to class because they will be declaring for the NBA draft. I know that that there are some exceptions to the rule, i.e. John Wall, but you can't convince me that Wall is the norm. Okay, I've researched and answered my own question. 1. APR is only for scholarship athletes; walk-ons do not count. Hence, my proposal as to using unathletic accounting majors to boost the APR doesn't work. 2. Early departures do count against APR. Apparently, APR deducts potential points for (1) enrolled but ineligible athletes and (2) those athletes who do not complete the semester while ineligible. There does not appear to be any penalization for a student who leaves for the NBA draft while still in good standing academically (see, e.g., Jeff Green). Also did a little research re APRs for Connecticut, Kentucky and GU on the NCAA website; keep in mind that for this season, any school with an APR under 925 in the 2012-2013 season is subject to sanctions, including the loss of ten percent of their scholarships: 2004-05 UConn 889, UK 922, GU 963 2005-06 UConn 934, UK 916, GU 970 2006-07 UConn 946, UK 941, GU 945 2007-08 UConn 939, UK 979, GU 942 2008-09 UConn 930, UK 954, GU 937 2009-10 UConn 893*, UK 974, GU 937 2010-11 UConn 889**, UK 963, GU 960 2011-12 UConn 897, UK 963, GU 966 *Connecticut was assessed immediate NCAA penalties, in the loss of two scholarships **Connecticut was assessed a level one penalty, resulting in the loss of practice time and ineligibility for post-season tournaments UConn has asserted, back in October 2013, that it will have a 1000 APR for the 2012-13 season. . .but we'll see. In this year's NCAA tournament, there were eight schools that failed to exceed the then-minimum 930 APR for the 2011-2012 season: California Poly (925), Coastal Carolina (921), North Carolina Central (903), Oklahoma State (928), Providence (915), Texas Southern (900), Connecticut (897) and Oregon (918). I am a bit surprised at the APRs for Kentucky. . .Calipari must have some really great tutors for his freshmen Wildcats.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 6, 2014 19:50:07 GMT -5
@yaboynyp and njhoya78 for your expertise! I understand that the Harrison's are excellent students and Poythress has been an honor student throughout high school and while at UK.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 21:05:50 GMT -5
Serious question here, with follow-ups, as compared to some of my smart-alecky postings: When the NCAA computes APR for each school, how does it account for the second semester of a player who "opts out" early, and stops attending classes? Does anyone believe that these one-and-dones are staying in their classes and working toward course credits when their basketball season is done? Do they simply withdraw from school, or do they get an appropriate grade for the class? How could that not adversely affect the school's APR? Or does it simply not count? I guess my question goes to how Kentucky, as an example, can keep these one-and-dones eligible for play in the second semester if they are not going to class because they will be declaring for the NBA draft. I know that that there are some exceptions to the rule, i.e. John Wall, but you can't convince me that Wall is the norm. Okay, I've researched and answered my own question. 1. APR is only for scholarship athletes; walk-ons do not count. Hence, my proposal as to using unathletic accounting majors to boost the APR doesn't work. 2. Early departures do count against APR. Apparently, APR deducts potential points for (1) enrolled but ineligible athletes and (2) those athletes who do not complete the semester while ineligible. There does not appear to be any penalization for a student who leaves for the NBA draft while still in good standing academically (see, e.g., Jeff Green). Also did a little research re APRs for Connecticut, Kentucky and GU on the NCAA website; keep in mind that for this season, any school with an APR under 925 in the 2012-2013 season is subject to sanctions, including the loss of ten percent of their scholarships: 2004-05 UConn 889, UK 922, GU 963 2005-06 UConn 934, UK 916, GU 970 2006-07 UConn 946, UK 941, GU 945 2007-08 UConn 939, UK 979, GU 942 2008-09 UConn 930, UK 954, GU 937 2009-10 UConn 893*, UK 974, GU 937 2010-11 UConn 889**, UK 963, GU 960 2011-12 UConn 897, UK 963, GU 966 *Connecticut was assessed immediate NCAA penalties, in the loss of two scholarships **Connecticut was assessed a level one penalty, resulting in the loss of practice time and ineligibility for post-season tournaments UConn has asserted, back in October 2013, that it will have a 1000 APR for the 2012-13 season. . .but we'll see. In this year's NCAA tournament, there were eight schools that failed to exceed the then-minimum 930 APR for the 2011-2012 season: California Poly (925), Coastal Carolina (921), North Carolina Central (903), Oklahoma State (928), Providence (915), Texas Southern (900), Connecticut (897) and Oregon (918). I am a bit surprised at the APRs for Kentucky. . .Calipari must have some really great tutors for his freshmen Wildcats. Walk-ons that become scholarships players count towards the GPA. UK's own boards have admitted this: kentuckysportsradio.com/1/calipari-gives-scholarships-to-sam-malone-and-brian-long/
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 6, 2014 23:04:38 GMT -5
True, but their non-scholarship academic achievements do not count for the prior semesters, only for those semesters in which they are on scholarship status.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 23:15:20 GMT -5
True, but their non-scholarship academic achievements do not count for the prior semesters, only for those semesters in which they are on scholarship status. That's like saying high school recruits don't impact a program because they can't play yet. So sure, it doesn't count for the past, but it doesnt need to once you have your system in place to constantly add 2-3 scholarship players you can depend on to raise the gpa. I'll break it down even more simply. Cal recruits one and dones. maybe 5 a year. maybe one other guy to make a 6 man class. add that too 3 or 4 guys who are hold overs from the year before. then you have 3-4 free schollies. whoever was a walk-on last year that has good grades gets those schollies. and you stress to those walk-ons that to get a scholly you need good grades. then make sure the other 9 or so guys do the bare minimum to pass. make sure the one and dones leave in good academic standing which isnt too tough since freshman year requirements are quite low. so you're really only worrying about the 3-4 guys who are staying in school for multiple years to make sure their spring grades are decent. but at that point you can laser in your attention on them to make sure they pass. meanwhile a third of your roster is bringing the average up. rinse and repeat every year. BTW, Cal is far from being the only coach to do this. UCONN started doing this immediately -- and there was quite a bit of press on this if i remember correctly -- after the academic probation was levied.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 7, 2014 7:19:51 GMT -5
UConn Men's (3-0) and Womens' (8-0) a combined 11-0 in Championship games
UConn Men's looking to win its 4th championship in 16 years...the most in that span.. It would be 2x as much as the next school during that period.
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Post by miracles87 on Apr 7, 2014 7:52:40 GMT -5
I am amped for tonight. This has been one of the best NCAA's I can remember. From that incredible first night with the OT games and buzzer beaters, to watching UK vs K State, and thinking to myself that UK makes sense as an 8 seed, so long as the Wizards were a 3, to all of the amazingly well played and exciting games as we've marched onward, wow. Honestly, I think this may be the most compelling Title game since UConn Duke in, what, 99? As good as those Harrison boys are, man, Napier and Boatwright are a problem. I also don't think UK holds the same supreme athletic advantage inside, as the Huskies just obliterated the one team I was sure was not disadvantaged athletically against the Cats, Florida. Bottom line, I'm picking UK tonight, but if they're only up one with 5.6 seconds left tonight, they're in big doodoo. I'm still operating under the assumption that a team that gets a little better when a monster like Cauley-Stein gets hurt is one nasty team.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Apr 7, 2014 8:24:41 GMT -5
I am amped for tonight. This has been one of the best NCAA's I can remember. Been trying to decide whether the tournament has been a great one or if it is just the first time in awhile I've been able to enjoy it without a first weekend flameout dumping on the whole thing. hm
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Apr 7, 2014 8:57:04 GMT -5
Except Duke won it all in 2010 and went to Elite 8 last year. If coach K got bounced out on the first weekend by double digit teams for the past 6 seasons continuously, maybe we can start your what-if scenario. Don't understand why some people put Kentucky and Uconn on the same level of hate. Uconn got into a trouble b/c a mere 4 star recruit named Nate Miles who did not play a single minute for them as he was dismissed before his freshman season even started. I see the $$$ signs at Kentucky, but not so much with Uconn. They definitely did not buy out players like Kemba and Napier to have them play for them. Those people who continue to bash Uconn are seriously blinded by the jealousy of them winning titles while we continue to struggle in the post season. Kevin Ollie is a class act actually, and he has done an amazing job when they were banned from tournament last year. Gotta give him the credit for the right coaching strategies during the tourney and finding the right recruits who execute his game plan. I will be honest, after they lost to Lousville by 60 points during the regular season, I did not think they were gonna be this good in the tourney. But this is why you love the tourney. Duke has also had 14 Mcdonalds AA’s play for them during that period. That’s more than a full roster of Burger Boyz in a 4-5 year span that includes 1st round losses to a 15 and 14 seed Uconn got in trouble for multiple recruiting violations with Nate Miles, and and during that 2 year period virtually every member of their staff was involved including Calhoun. If they were willing to do that to land a “mere 4 star recruit” well I’m going to go out on a limb and say it probably wasn’t the first time. He was sanctioned by the NCAA for a “failure to create an atmosphere of compliance” within the basketball program at UConn. The Agent in the case was also the handler for 5star Ater Majok who also ended up at Uconn and was part of that probe as well. Calhoun also paid Rudy Gay’s AAU team 25,000 to put together a team to scrimmage Uconn. Then a couple days after the game and Cecil Kirk got paid Gay committed to the School. This was not a violation at the time, it would later become one as a result of incidents like these because of how blatant that type of action is. Either way It’s hard to consider a coach clean who is ok with this type of quid pro quo Imo That being said, I personally care very little about that. If you don’t get why a Gtown fan would hate Uconn just because they’re Uconn.. Well then I’m Speechless First of all, Duke has always had talents coming in, and I think they were able to capture some glory with them. If we had gone to win a NC and went to elite 8 last year, even if we had lost other years to VCU/Davidson/NC State (counting out the years against Ohio/FGFU by hypothesizing we had Duke's record), don't think many of us would be worried about the state of our program. Plus, we have had better talents than those mid major schools anyway. Secondly, Uconn might have done some shady stuff in recruiting like most other schools, but you seem to forget that Uconn does have a strong tradition, good coach, and good facilities. It's not some school in backwater that has to buy out players to play for them. Additionally, the players that UConn has been getting have NOT been so vastly superior than what we have had. Not like Duke/Kansas/Kentucky that every one of their incoming class is loaded with McDAAs - if they are buying out mostly 3-4 star players with a few 5 star players - i think they are capable of landing them anyway w/o doing shady stuff. The loyalty of the players have been proven once already, as the main pieces of their success this year, Napier and Boatright, had the chances to bounce from Uconn like Roscoe after the ban, but they did not. Maybe you can accuse Uconn again that they paid those players to stay. But what's the difference when many of duke fans raged and accused that we bought out Greg Monroe to play for us? You can have many speculations and the "inside stories" to further denigrate their success. But the fact is they have 2 more NC titles than us, and possible 3 if they win against Kentucky.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 7, 2014 9:32:52 GMT -5
First time in 26 years the winner of the Tourney will not be a #4 seed or better.
This is the highest combined seeded numbers to play for the championship. #7 vs #8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 11:54:36 GMT -5
Duke has also had 14 Mcdonalds AA’s play for them during that period. That’s more than a full roster of Burger Boyz in a 4-5 year span that includes 1st round losses to a 15 and 14 seed Uconn got in trouble for multiple recruiting violations with Nate Miles, and and during that 2 year period virtually every member of their staff was involved including Calhoun. If they were willing to do that to land a “mere 4 star recruit” well I’m going to go out on a limb and say it probably wasn’t the first time. He was sanctioned by the NCAA for a “failure to create an atmosphere of compliance” within the basketball program at UConn. The Agent in the case was also the handler for 5star Ater Majok who also ended up at Uconn and was part of that probe as well. Calhoun also paid Rudy Gay’s AAU team 25,000 to put together a team to scrimmage Uconn. Then a couple days after the game and Cecil Kirk got paid Gay committed to the School. This was not a violation at the time, it would later become one as a result of incidents like these because of how blatant that type of action is. Either way It’s hard to consider a coach clean who is ok with this type of quid pro quo Imo That being said, I personally care very little about that. If you don’t get why a Gtown fan would hate Uconn just because they’re Uconn.. Well then I’m Speechless First of all, Duke has always had talents coming in, and I think they were able to capture some glory with them. If we had gone to win a NC and went to elite 8 last year, even if we had lost other years to VCU/Davidson/NC State (counting out the years against Ohio/FGFU by hypothesizing we had Duke's record), don't think many of us would be worried about the state of our program. Plus, we have had better talents than those mid major schools anyway. Secondly, Uconn might have done some shady stuff in recruiting like most other schools, but you seem to forget that Uconn does have a strong tradition, good coach, and good facilities. It's not some school in backwater that has to buy out players to play for them. Additionally, the players that UConn has been getting have NOT been so vastly superior than what we have had. Not like Duke/Kansas/Kentucky that every one of their incoming class is loaded with McDAAs - if they are buying out mostly 3-4 star players with a few 5 star players - i think they are capable of landing them anyway w/o doing shady stuff. The loyalty of the players have been proven once already, as the main pieces of their success this year, Napier and Boatright, had the chances to bounce from Uconn like Roscoe after the ban, but they did not. Maybe you can accuse Uconn again that they paid those players to stay. But what's the difference when many of duke fans raged and accused that we bought out Greg Monroe to play for us? You can have many speculations and the "inside stories" to further denigrate their success. But the fact is they have 2 more NC titles than us, and possible 3 if they win against Kentucky. Gtown has not had close to the talent of Duke or many top teams but all Duke proves is in a one off tourney anything can happen, that’s all. You could go an a run you could get bounced early, I hope we go on a run every year but even Duke who is a far superior program to GTown with all that talent and their magnificent coach has managed to lose in the first round 2-3 seasons. They have had championship/top 5 talent all of those season. Regarding your above statement in black, so does Kentucky…Even more so than Uconn and to be honest I don't think that’s relevant. They cheated, got caught, and got punished. I think it’s foolish to believe it was the first time. They have had quite a few players suspended for recruiting violations and criminal activity over the years (Ricky Moore, Al Price, Marvin Williams, Caron Butler, Kirk King and many more... One could make an argument that they built their program by cheating but that’s not one I am trying to make We have no idea if they could have landed those players “w/o the shady stuff” and frankly that does not matter. They chose to soil their program and felt they needed to in order to win. Certain recruits you can only land doing the “shady stuff”. Everybody knows who they are, it’s not a mystery and if you choose to recruit those players like Ater Majok and Nate Miles than you know what it is. Programs that land these types of kids don’t just end up there by accident. Past or current UConn and Ollie I have no problem with just putting the facts out there. Ollie from all accounts is a stand up guy, grades are up and he’s done a good job. GTown fans hate Uconn primarily because we had a bitter rivalry for 25 years to answer your original question, do you not agree?
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Post by Buckets on Apr 7, 2014 13:54:31 GMT -5
I am amped for tonight. This has been one of the best NCAA's I can remember. From that incredible first night with the OT games and buzzer beaters, to watching UK vs K State, and thinking to myself that UK makes sense as an 8 seed, so long as the Wizards were a 3, to all of the amazingly well played and exciting games as we've marched onward, wow. Honestly, I think this may be the most compelling Title game since UConn Duke in, what, 99? As good as those Harrison boys are, man, Napier and Boatwright are a problem. I also don't think UK holds the same supreme athletic advantage inside, as the Huskies just obliterated the one team I was sure was not disadvantaged athletically against the Cats, Florida. Bottom line, I'm picking UK tonight, but if they're only up one with 5.6 seconds left tonight, they're in big doodoo. I'm still operating under the assumption that a team that gets a little better when a monster like Cauley-Stein gets hurt is one nasty team. I got UConn tonight. DeAndre Daniels is going to be spotting like 60 pounds to Julius Randle and Phillip Nolan is going to have to cover Dakari, but I think the twins are such garbage that UConn pulls this out. Kentucky's strategy of just having Andrew Harrison run into people and throw the ball at the rim hoping for a foul or for their NBA frontcourt to grab the rebound isn't going to work again UConn. Andrew looked slow against Traevon Jackson; Napier and Boatright are on another level. Not sure Calipari's a good enough coach to figure it out. Randle's got the better future, but I'd rather have Napier to win one game right now. They're going to get physically dominated in the frontcourt, but they have the better coach and most importantly the best player on the floor.
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 7, 2014 14:13:38 GMT -5
I am amped for tonight. This has been one of the best NCAA's I can remember. From that incredible first night with the OT games and buzzer beaters, to watching UK vs K State, and thinking to myself that UK makes sense as an 8 seed, so long as the Wizards were a 3, to all of the amazingly well played and exciting games as we've marched onward, wow. Honestly, I think this may be the most compelling Title game since UConn Duke in, what, 99? As good as those Harrison boys are, man, Napier and Boatwright are a problem. I also don't think UK holds the same supreme athletic advantage inside, as the Huskies just obliterated the one team I was sure was not disadvantaged athletically against the Cats, Florida. Bottom line, I'm picking UK tonight, but if they're only up one with 5.6 seconds left tonight, they're in big doodoo. I'm still operating under the assumption that a team that gets a little better when a monster like Cauley-Stein gets hurt is one nasty team. I got UConn tonight. DeAndre Daniels is going to be spotting like 60 pounds to Julius Randle and Phillip Nolan is going to have to cover Dakari, but I think the twins are such garbage that UConn pulls this out. Kentucky's strategy of just having Andrew Harrison run into people and throw the ball at the rim hoping for a foul or for their NBA frontcourt to grab the rebound isn't going to work again UConn. Andrew looked slow against Traevon Jackson; Napier and Boatright are on another level. Not sure Calipari's a good enough coach to figure it out. Randle's got the better future, but I'd rather have Napier to win one game right now. They're going to get physically dominated in the frontcourt, but they have the better coach and most importantly the best player on the floor. I think UConn is going to get dominated on the boards. They were 250th overall in defensive rebounding percentage and Kentucky is #1 overall in offensive rebounding percentage. Every team UK has played so far (except KState) is better at defensive rebounding than UConn and even against Wisconsin (20th overall in DReb %) and Wichita St. (6th overall in DReb%) they still got more than a third of their misses. Against Michigan, who is ~150th overall in DReb%, UK got 63.3% of their misses! Michigan is better at rebounding than UConn. Of course, it might not matter that much, considering UConn struggled against ISU on the boards (39.5% OReb) and UF didn't do too shabby (34.3%) and UConn obviously pulled it out.
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Post by GUMBA on Apr 7, 2014 15:50:01 GMT -5
While my antipathy for John Feinstein is as fervent as most HoyaTalk posters, I must say I found myself agreeing with almost all of what he wrote in his column today. There is no doubt that they need to get rid of the one-and-done. Either have kids go directly to the NBA or the NBADL and get paid immediately if they don't want to commit to playing four years in college. If you sign up to go to college you stay for four years, get a full scholarship, a modest stipend - say $5K per year, and the University/Coaching staff agrees to to keep you for the duration. If you get hurt, you still get a free ride. If you flunk out, you are prohibited from playing in the NBA for at least one year. You'd lose less than 20 players a year directly to the pros. That is not such a huge impact on a system where over 99 percent of the players aren't going to see the NBA hardwood anyways. While we're at it, the NCAA should hire 10 earnest young men to spend a month during the season at random inside programs at the top 50 schools (10 guys X 1 month X 5 programs = 50 schools) - shadowing students athletes in classes, at study hall, going to practices, living in the dorms and traveling with the team. It would probably cost them less than $2 million per year out of all that TV money to make sure nothing bad is going on and that players and coaches are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/ncaa-tournament-final-mark-emmert-john-calipari-are-two-of-a-kind/2014/04/06/ff9862c0-bdd8-11e3-b195-dd0c1174052c_story.html
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 7, 2014 16:23:33 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Apr 7, 2014 20:18:35 GMT -5
I think DeAndre Daniels will have a big night..took the over 14pts
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