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Post by FLHoya on May 9, 2014 12:44:31 GMT -5
I figured as much re: re-routing to the IAC, and I reckon there are other factors at play as well.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 9, 2014 13:42:11 GMT -5
I figured as much re: re-routing to the IAC, and I reckon there are other factors at play as well. I think it's less about the IAC and more about all those $50 and $100 HHC gifts that secured tickets for the Syracuse seats in the 400's. Add in the attrition from GU season ticket holders this past year and the reduction in the annual goal was a wise one.
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Post by HoyaChris on May 9, 2014 14:20:30 GMT -5
I figured as much re: re-routing to the IAC, and I reckon there are other factors at play as well. I think it's less about the IAC and more about all those $50 and $100 HHC gifts that secured tickets for the Syracuse seats in the 400's. Add in the attrition from GU season ticket holders this past year and the reduction in the annual goal was a wise one. I'm pretty sure it's mostly about the rerouting. I can name three Hoop Club contributors for which the diversion totals almost $100,000 and I don't know very many people.
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Post by justsaying on May 16, 2014 9:52:22 GMT -5
any scoop on the particulars at this time
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Post by justsaying on May 20, 2014 13:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 26, 2014 9:48:42 GMT -5
any scoop on the particulars at this time Much like a premium flavor at the world's stingiest Ben & Jerry's, scoops of inside info about Georgetown developments (administrative and otherwise) are jealously guarded and typically doled out only to those who have paid for the privilege, one way or another. The IAC wasn't on the OGB agenda for their May meeting. Agenda for the June 5 meeting isn't out yet, perhaps we'll see it there. They need final OGB approval to get all of the construction permits. Here's a May 16th update from The Hoya: The construction of the Intercollegiate Athletic Center will also impact pedestrian traffic. Due to changes in the routes of the Georgetown University Transportation Shuttle buses, pedestrian traffic will be rerouted to the sidewalks closer to Wolfington Hall and the Southwest Quad, instead of going by the tennis courts, which will be removed during the construction of the IAC.
The construction of the IAC, which is expected to take about two years, will follow a similar schedule as that of the Northeast Triangle.
“We’re doing it in two phases. The first phase would be breaking ground and doing the site work and the excavation, and then the second one would be when you see it coming out of the ground,” Morey said. “We anticipate to start that in the summer, when we get board approval and all the permits.”
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 26, 2014 10:50:13 GMT -5
Any location identified for tennis? Looks like it's another sport that's going off-campus for many years to come.
On a more encouraging note, field hockey is coming back to campus despite the fact that the MSF turf isn't ideal for the sport. ( It's not ideal for tennis, but you never know...)
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Post by HometownHoya on May 26, 2014 12:00:30 GMT -5
Any location identified for tennis? Looks like it's another sport that's going off-campus for many years to come. On a more encouraging note, field hockey is coming back to campus despite the fact that the MSF turf isn't ideal for the sport. ( It's not ideal for tennis, but you never know...) I've always thought that they should put at least 2 courts on-top of the roof of the IAC, not sure if it is even feasible at this point. Would also love to see new fields ontop of Yates but I'm sure that wont happen until the entire building is redone.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 26, 2014 14:59:50 GMT -5
They had the track on top of Yates, but the roof leaked and they had to destroy the track. The track is now a neighborhood track across from the med school. I attended a track practice a year and a half ago. About six lanes, five laps to the mile. The distance runners were going one way, the sprinters another and 45 minutes into it, some school girls started to jog around the track. I don't remember seeing any steeplechase water jump; it is clearly amazing that Georgetown has the best men's steeplechase program in the nation now.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 9, 2014 8:14:15 GMT -5
I've always thought that they should put at least 2 courts on-top of the roof of the IAC, not sure if it is even feasible at this point. Would also love to see new fields ontop of Yates but I'm sure that wont happen until the entire building is redone. There was some initial conversation about the possibility of putting tennis courts on the roof of the IAC, but it quickly became clear that such an option would never fly with the aesthetic guardians at the Old Georgetown Board. They had the track on top of Yates, but the roof leaked and they had to destroy the track. The track is now a neighborhood track across from the med school. I attended a track practice a year and a half ago. About six lanes, five laps to the mile. The distance runners were going one way, the sprinters another and 45 minutes into it, some school girls started to jog around the track. I don't remember seeing any steeplechase water jump; it is clearly amazing that Georgetown has the best men's steeplechase program in the nation now. The roof leak problem with Yates is a fundamental structural flaw. As Alan Brangman once explained to me: roofs are slanted for a reason - to make the water go somewhere. Building a roof as big and flat as Yates was not a wise choice in the long-run. All roofs of a similar size in the US have been converted to green roofs or have had to be retrofit with extremely expensive drainage systems. None are attempted to be used as playing fields. The roof has already been completely replaced several times, and the problem isn't going away. It's why they proposed (not seriously, I don't think) to actually build a secondary roof over Yates as part of the initial 2010 Campus Plan proposal.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 9, 2014 8:48:13 GMT -5
The roof leak problem with Yates is a fundamental structural flaw. As Alan Brangman once explained to me: roofs are slanted for a reason - to make the water go somewhere. Building a roof as big and flat as Yates was not a wise choice in the long-run. All roofs of a similar size in the US have been converted to green roofs or have had to be retrofit with extremely expensive drainage systems. None are attempted to be used as playing fields. The roof has already been completely replaced several times, and the problem isn't going away. No one wants to say it, but...Yates needs to be razed. With it, some major discussions follow about what that land could and/or should be used for. It's why they proposed (not seriously, I don't think) to actually build a secondary roof <i>over</i> Yates as part of the initial 2010 Campus Plan proposal. And it was rejected by the local brahmin as an opportunity for increased activity on the field (and thus increased noise).
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Post by hoyatables on Jun 9, 2014 9:04:56 GMT -5
The roof leak problem with Yates is a fundamental structural flaw. As Alan Brangman once explained to me: roofs are slanted for a reason - to make the water go somewhere. Building a roof as big and flat as Yates was not a wise choice in the long-run. All roofs of a similar size in the US have been converted to green roofs or have had to be retrofit with extremely expensive drainage systems. None are attempted to be used as playing fields. The roof has already been completely replaced several times, and the problem isn't going away. No one wants to say it, but...Yates needs to be razed. With it, some major discussions follow about what that land could and/or should be used for. It's why they proposed (not seriously, I don't think) to actually build a secondary roof <i>over</i> Yates as part of the initial 2010 Campus Plan proposal. And it was rejected by the local brahmin as an opportunity for increased activity on the field (and thus increased noise). No, it was not rejected. The bubble over Kehoe was given conceptual approval within the 2010 Plan. Like any other development site, it will have to go back for final zoning approval, but it was kept in the final campus plan approved by the Zoning Commission and community groups.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 9, 2014 11:54:28 GMT -5
The bubble over Kehoe was given conceptual approval within the 2010 Plan. Like any other development site, it will have to go back for final zoning approval, but it was kept in the final campus plan approved by the Zoning Commission and community groups. The bubble doesn't address drainage issues and may actually exacerbate them. First things first, the turf needs to be repaired, and in a big way. www.thehoya.com/kehoe-field-an-obstacle-course-of-injury-risks/
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 10, 2014 17:43:59 GMT -5
The bubble over Kehoe was given conceptual approval within the 2010 Plan. Like any other development site, it will have to go back for final zoning approval, but it was kept in the final campus plan approved by the Zoning Commission and community groups. The bubble doesn't address drainage issues and may actually exacerbate them. First things first, the turf needs to be repaired, and in a big way. www.thehoya.com/kehoe-field-an-obstacle-course-of-injury-risks/FWIW, I think the bubble/arcade roof idea was specifically designed to remediate drainage issues. If you keep the water off of the part that needs to be flat and not be a giant storm drain - i.e. the playing surface - you can add more intensive draining around the periphery, where the water is diverted to. The core issue is with water pooling onto the flat playing surfaces, getting in between the various layers (turf, subbases, roof, etc.), expanding and contracting as water is wont to do, and creating divots, cracks, leaks, and so on. If you can keep the water off of the flat area, you've mostly dealt with the problem. Otherwise, you're just spending a ton of money (you have to do more than just replace the top level of turf) for something you'll have to replace again before too long. No one wants to say it, but...Yates needs to be razed. With it, some major discussions follow about what that land could and/or should be used for. I'm fine with saying it. For that to happen, though, you first have to build a new facility. I've suggested Lot A (just north of Kober-Cogan) before as the best available location for that. As for what to do with the Yates footprint afterwards... well, I don't think it'll be a track.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jun 12, 2014 11:31:51 GMT -5
Groundbreaking announced: Georgetown Announces Formal Groundbreaking Ceremony for Thompson Center WASHINGTON – Georgetown University announced today that it is scheduled to move forward with the construction of the John R. Thompson Jr. Intercollegiate Athletics Center. Last week, the University’s Board of Directors approved the next phase of the project and site work construction is scheduled to begin the first week in August. A formal groundbreaking ceremony for the Thompson Athletics Center, named in honor of the Hall of Fame Men’s Basketball Coach who guided the Hoyas for 27 years and led the program to the 1984 NCAA Championship, will be held on the site on Friday, Sept. 12. The Thompson Athletics Center, a major priority of Georgetown’s $1.5 billion For Generations to Come fundraising campaign, is expected to be completed in August 2016. The $62 million project will be completely supported through philanthropy. “The start of construction on the Thompson Athletics Center is a watershed moment for Georgetown Athletics as well as our University and alumni community,” Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Lee Reed said. “This is the culmination of a plan that is intended to substantively improve the experiences of every Georgetown student-athlete, coach and staff member. We are grateful to our entire community for their support of this initiative and I expect that this will serve as a catalyst to carry our department forward for generations to come.” The four-story, 144,000-square-foot building will be constructed adjacent to McDonough Arena and include: practice courts, locker rooms, team meeting rooms, lounge areas, coaches' offices for men's and women's basketball, locker rooms for four additional varsity sports, weight-training and sports medicine rooms for all varsity athletes, the Student-Athlete Academic and Leadership Center, an auditorium and team meeting facilities for all varsity programs as well as a new venue for the Georgetown Athletics Hall of Fame. John Thompson Jr.’s name is synonymous with success. From 1972 to 1999, he compiled 596 wins, the most of any coach in the history of Georgetown University and the magnitude of his achievements is undeniable. On the court, he amassed league-leading records against all BIG EAST Conference opponents (233-122) and captured 13 BIG EAST Championships, seven regular season titles and six tournament championships. Thompson’s Hoya teams earned 24 consecutive invitations to postseason play, appeared in three NCAA Final Fours (1982, 1984 and 1985) and won the NCAA Championship in 1984. Off the court, he inspired his players to pursue their degrees and Thompson ended his tenure with a 97 percent graduation rate, while 26 of his players were drafted by the National Basketball Association, including eight of them in the first round. A member of the National Basketball Hall of Fame, Thompson was named Coach of the Year a total of seven times. The BIG EAST honored him with the award following the 1979-80, 1986-87 and 1991-92 seasons. After leading the Hoyas to the National Championship in 1984 he received the title from The United States Basketball Writers Association and The Sporting News. Following a consecutive return to the National Championship game in 1985, he was honored by the National Association of Basketball Coaches. He even garnered the award on a global scale when The United Press International honored him following the 1986-87 season. More information about the John R. Thompson Jr. Intercollegiate Athletics Center can be found at: campaign.georgetown.edu/iac.htmlAdditional link: us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d4631acb48cacc78a4633bc59&id=a3eed4fca5&e=f4212d9725
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Post by daymondmyles on Jun 12, 2014 12:17:33 GMT -5
Wow. Huge day. Really. Was getting a little worried at the lack of noise but this is fantastic. Let's invite Rabb to the groundbreaking and have him stay for the Kenner League Championship featuring the Tombs team.
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Post by Cambridge on Jun 12, 2014 12:28:38 GMT -5
That press release is clearly a forgery, it's missing the "-123- Fireballs" necessary to authenticate it.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jun 12, 2014 13:07:04 GMT -5
Finally!!! Great news for the University and the program. Thanks to all those who worked so hard to get this done and to all those who dug deep and contributed to the project.
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Post by IDenj on Jun 12, 2014 13:52:36 GMT -5
It's only going to take 2 years to complete? Here's hoping.
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Jun 12, 2014 14:43:56 GMT -5
The biggest surprise here is that the groundbreaking won't occur until AFTER the students have returned from summer break, leaving three months of disruptive foundation work on the table which could have been performed during the less congested summer months on campus.
Other than that, great news!
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