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Post by sleepy on Jan 30, 2014 11:43:08 GMT -5
Congratulations to Jack he did provide some highs and lows during his tenure. Thank him for the 71-72 season without it who knows what may have happened. Jack held some serious resentmnet towards the school some justified and was never shy about sharing it has he did many times at the BET during the 80s with anyone willing to listen. Not too surprising he was at core a BC guy and was never about to attend the anniversary event.
now as a fact check on the story I'm pretty sure BC loss to a Maryland team in the NCAA in the late 50s 58 or 59 not sure if they were ACC at the time. I'm pretty sure Magee was on staff at BC in the 65 66 season and was a partime assitant to Ron Perry at C.M.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 30, 2014 11:57:02 GMT -5
Why are we congratulating him?
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Post by Boz on Jan 30, 2014 12:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 30, 2014 21:40:53 GMT -5
Jack Magee, NIT. That was a big deal then. I wasn't aware that he bore such animosity toward the university. Why is that? Because he got stuck with the all-time roadtrip from hell? Even with a more favorable schedule, that team wouldn't have won many games. It was bad. I do recall that we almost beat Penn St. I still remember that we thought we had that game won by a point on a late basket, but Hollywood Ron mistimed his leap on a long inbounds pass, and a Penn St. player caught it and laid the ball in at the buzzer to beat us. At least, that's the way I remember it, 42 years later.
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Post by detmut on Jan 30, 2014 21:59:19 GMT -5
he doesn't care about us. i don't care about him.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 31, 2014 0:00:48 GMT -5
Good game plan vs LSU in the NIT. Held Pistol Pete to 20, but in the end, we lost. Exciting game. Only game I saw him coach.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 31, 2014 11:55:46 GMT -5
Jack McGee was a disaster. If I recall at one of his first practices he had a drill where players would be asked to run and dive for a loose ball . Our leading scorer, Denny Caesar, dove and broke a bone in his arm or shoulder. Out for most of the year.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Jan 31, 2014 14:22:33 GMT -5
Jack McGee was a disaster. If I recall at one of his first practices he had a drill where players would be asked to run and dive for a loose ball . Our leading scorer, Denny Caesar, dove and broke a bone in his arm or shoulder. Out for most of the year. lol.... |
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Post by MassHoya on Jan 31, 2014 14:50:34 GMT -5
Jack Magee got no support whatsoever from the Administration. The AD (Steigholtz?) would not offer scholarships to the recruits Magee wanted, and scheduled a nightmarish schedule without consulting him. Right or wrong, that is why he bears a grudge. He was able to bring in Mike Laska, Jim Higgins, Artie White and Mike Laughna who were pretty good players.
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Post by hoya70hoops on Jan 31, 2014 15:59:24 GMT -5
Don't get me started on Mr. Magee. But I would add that he didn't have anything to do with Jim Higgins [who's bball career he nuked] coming. I was at the game when Hollywood Ron muffed the last play, it was one of the more humorous Hoya disasters. Luckily, it didn't affect our season much. The best thing about the Magee era was we were so bad in 1972 that the administration panic'd and brought in JT-II, a radical move at the time, bringing bigtime hoops to Georgetown.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 31, 2014 16:20:41 GMT -5
Jack McGee was a disaster. If I recall at one of his first practices he had a drill where players would be asked to run and dive for a loose ball . Our leading scorer, Denny Caesar, dove and broke a bone in his arm or shoulder. Out for most of the year. I wondering why that didn't cause Denny to be an orthopoedic surgeon, instead of a urologist (if I am not mistaken - calling Lic to confirm).  |
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 31, 2014 21:46:22 GMT -5
Jack Magee got no support whatsoever from the Administration. The AD (Steigholtz?) would not offer scholarships to the recruits Magee wanted, and scheduled a nightmarish schedule without consulting him. Right or wrong, that is why he bears a grudge. He was able to bring in Mike Laska, Jim Higgins, Artie White and Mike Laughna who were pretty good players. We also had Charlie Adrion, who managed to be a scoring machine despite having a two inch vertical leap due to having the worst knees imaginable, Paul "Hands" Favorite, and my favorite Hoya from that era (aside from the really good players), Bob "Hatchet" Hannon. Whenever we needed a hard foul committed, Hannon would go in, clobber somebody, and then return to the bench grinning. The animal section loved him. |
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Post by drquigley on Jan 31, 2014 22:06:22 GMT -5
Ah yes the Animal Section. Try explaining that to today's coeds.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 31, 2014 22:54:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the edit on Magee playing Maryland, it's been changed.
This was before my time, but a story involving Magee was told once by Digger Phelps on ESPN College Gameday that would have changed the face of Eastern basketball.
In 1970, Penn was on its way to a 25-2 season and there was rampant speculation Dick Harter would be hired away by a bigger school. Word got out among the college coaching fraternity that BC, Holy Cross, and Georgetown would execute what amounted to a three way trade in coaches for the 1970-71 season. It went something like this:
Chuck Daly (BC) would leave for Penn
Jack Donohue (HC) would replace Daly at BC
Jack Magee (GU) would replace Donohue at Holy Cross
In return, Georgetown would hire Phelps, a Penn assistant under Harter. How much different would Georgetown basketball had been under Digger Phelps?
In the end, Harter stayed an extra year before going to Oregon. As a result, he stayed on for the 70-71 season, so Daly stayed at BC and Donahue at HC. Georgetown, who didn't appear to want to keep Magee after his contract expired in 1970, renewed Magee's contract after the 1970 NIT, so Phelps took the open job at Fordham instead.
By 1972, all of them were on to new jobs except Magee, who was not hired again in coaching after his last season at Georgetown, which probably contributes to his decades-long bitterness toward the school.
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Post by 2ndRyan on Feb 1, 2014 6:01:19 GMT -5
Amazing he was only 35 when he was axed, my freshman year. Seems very young now
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Post by sleepy on Feb 1, 2014 9:28:29 GMT -5
Jack had issues other than Basketball part was the fact he believed he did most of the coaching at BC under Cousy and was never recognized at any level. He used to claim if i recall correctly that Jim O'Brien out St Francis at the time wanted to come to Georgetown but we didn't show him any love. Never bought it.The personal issue are what kept him out of coaching which started to become evident at Georgetown.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 1, 2014 14:20:42 GMT -5
Ah yes the Animal Section. Try explaining that to today's coeds. LOL! It was a brave woman, who would walk past the animal section. Did the animal section pioneer body (crowd) surfing? |
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