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Nov 20, 2015 9:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by Locker on Nov 20, 2015 9:05:53 GMT -5
Wait, now it's the staff's development of Hayes that's made him the starter? Pretty much everyone's development in college is one part staff providing the roadmap and skills teaching and many parts the player for working on it. The idea that it is 100% one or the other is silly. So is the idea that most players don't improve their technical skills at Georgetown significantly. One thing JT3 deserves credit for: how consistently his big men develop shooting with their off hand.
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Post by seaweed on Nov 20, 2015 9:22:48 GMT -5
He's definitely been a little slow with the decisions once he's got the ball. I agree with you -- pass out once in a while and reset, sometimes leads to even easier buckets. He wasn't part of the other team's gameplan. After two games of being the high scorer, and vs. Ryan, I think Bradley will have a crowded paint around him. Today might be the perfect opportunity to try the pass out. BUT, the shooter must make their 3s. somebody can dredge up a statistic showing that the 3 off the kickout is the highest percentage shot. I know it, but don't have time to prove it. Something to do with sightlines probably, or the fact that so many practice threes come off similar passes from the rebounders under the rim, but I would be a lot happier if our guys were firing more on kickouts than off a perimeter feed.
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Post by beenaround on Nov 20, 2015 12:04:26 GMT -5
He wasn't part of the other team's gameplan. After two games of being the high scorer, and vs. Ryan, I think Bradley will have a crowded paint around him. Today might be the perfect opportunity to try the pass out. BUT, the shooter must make their 3s. somebody can dredge up a statistic showing that the 3 off the kickout is the highest percentage shot. I know it, but don't have time to prove it. Something to do with sightlines probably, or the fact that so many practice threes come off similar passes from the rebounders under the rim, but I would be a lot happier if our guys were firing more on kickouts than off a perimeter feed. Great point. But I think the problem is we do not have players who can, consistently penetrate and make a good kickout pass.
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Post by seaweed on Nov 20, 2015 12:46:19 GMT -5
somebody can dredge up a statistic showing that the 3 off the kickout is the highest percentage shot. I know it, but don't have time to prove it. Something to do with sightlines probably, or the fact that so many practice threes come off similar passes from the rebounders under the rim, but I would be a lot happier if our guys were firing more on kickouts than off a perimeter feed. Great point. But I think the problem is we do not have players who can, consistently penetrate and make a good kickout pass. All the more reason to get the entry to the post and kickout from time to time. With B-Rad drawing a little attention from the outside defender, we definitely have guys who can catch and shoot that kickout pass (or re-post as someone observed earlier).
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 20, 2015 16:12:26 GMT -5
He wasn't part of the other team's gameplan. After two games of being the high scorer, and vs. Ryan, I think Bradley will have a crowded paint around him. Today might be the perfect opportunity to try the pass out. BUT, the shooter must make their 3s. somebody can dredge up a statistic showing that the 3 off the kickout is the highest percentage shot. I know it, but don't have time to prove it. Something to do with sightlines probably, or the fact that so many practice threes come off similar passes from the rebounders under the rim, but I would be a lot happier if our guys were firing more on kickouts than off a perimeter feed. It makes perfect sense. With the kickout the shooter is pretty much squared up with the hoop when he receives the ball; when you are shooting 10-15 threes in practice, that's how you are receiving from the feeder. A pass on the perimeter requires you to turn and square up, harder mechanics to master.
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Post by mapei on Nov 20, 2015 19:22:18 GMT -5
No Bradley in the second half? Hope he's OK, he looked OK on the bench.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 20, 2015 19:32:07 GMT -5
No Bradley in the second half? Hope he's OK, he looked OK on the bench. Not much Derrickson either. Neither were playing great (for different reasons), so maybe it was a gameflow thing for JTIII?
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Post by tashoya on Nov 20, 2015 19:55:19 GMT -5
It was nearly inevitable that Hayes would have a game like this after breaking out his first two games. This game he was feeling himself a bit too much early and being a bit too aggressive. I'm glad this game is behind him and that I suspect that he realizes that he can be aggressive without having to try to score on every possession. Not to mention that the extra minutes for Govan will be helpful for them both in that eventually, if there isn't a huge drop-off when Govan comes in, both guys can play aggressively for the majority of their minutes as opposed to Hayes having to be overly concerned about staying on the floor. On to Sunday...
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Nov 20, 2015 20:12:50 GMT -5
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Post by joey0403p on Nov 20, 2015 20:12:50 GMT -5
Thought I saw him limpin.
Hope he was held out just precautionary.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 20, 2015 21:45:10 GMT -5
Not sure if injury or just not playing well.
I will say this: when Bradley isn't hitting 70% of his shots, he's going to be a tough one to keep feeding because of the turnovers. He's gotta reduce his dribbles.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 20, 2015 23:17:16 GMT -5
Not sure if injury or just not playing well. I will say this: when Bradley isn't hitting 70% of his shots, he's going to be a tough one to keep feeding because of the turnovers. He's gotta reduce his dribbles. Good lesson for all Georgetown bigs for the past few years with regard to the dribbling.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 21, 2015 0:38:29 GMT -5
It was nearly inevitable that Hayes would have a game like this after breaking out his first two games. This game he was feeling himself a bit too much early and being a bit too aggressive. I'm glad this game is behind him and that I suspect that he realizes that he can be aggressive without having to try to score on every possession. Not to mention that the extra minutes for Govan will be helpful for them both in that eventually, if there isn't a huge drop-off when Govan comes in, both guys can play aggressively for the majority of their minutes as opposed to Hayes having to be overly concerned about staying on the floor. On to Sunday... I love that Bradley's performance in the first two games allowed Jessie to get acclimated, instead of having to perform from Day 1. Tonight was his chance to shine and he did. Awesome duo!
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 21, 2015 8:11:41 GMT -5
One thing I would like to see is Bradley pass out more when he gets the ball down low. Teams are going to start aggressively doubling him to take away the dribble and hook. Keep it up Bradley! He's definitely been a little slow with the decisions once he's got the ball. I agree with you -- pass out once in a while and reset, sometimes leads to even easier buckets. He's been a black hole once he gets the ball.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 6, 2015 19:41:36 GMT -5
Bump.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 6, 2015 20:33:35 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 7, 2015 11:16:15 GMT -5
One of the extra benefits of Bradley's great play - gives Jessie time to develop his game without undue pressure. Would love to watch the 2 of them go at it in practice.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 7, 2015 11:19:56 GMT -5
I believe that as of Saturday, Bradley's point total surpassed his page total. Bravo!!!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 7, 2015 11:43:52 GMT -5
He should transfer...he will never get any time here.
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Post by This Just In on Dec 7, 2015 15:32:52 GMT -5
I liked your red shirt comment from 2014... Finding center play with what Henry Sims provided and what Bradley Hayes has done is like finding a diamond in the ruff. Good Center play just does not come around that much anymore. At least no one will ever comment again..."You/I see now why Bradley Hayes does not get any playtime." It eerily reminds me of Henry Sims 2.0.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Dec 7, 2015 15:52:42 GMT -5
Bradley Hayes should have played his soph year. JTIII comment "For the last three years, B.J. has worked extremely hard. It"s not like he just started working this summer. He just now has a coach who is now putting him in the game." says a lot. I think he knows his handling of Bradley was not good.
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