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Post by matersammich on Jun 2, 2014 18:25:15 GMT -5
Can't blame the kid for listening to other offers after he blew up. I'm sure it's flattering to have blue blood basketball programs come calling. Doesn't mean he won't end up a Hoya.
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Jun 2, 2014 18:27:03 GMT -5
B&G, With the possibility for Trier and Mann waning, where should our priority be and how realistic are our chances? Bacon Reaves R. Smith Crawford Dorsey probably reaves/dorsey. reaves is most likely to pop for us if the staff shows continued to support, there is not much competition there. with trier, it kinda reminds me of the recruiting for elbert robinson last year... originally a strong hoya lean who was ready to commit to us, but the "advisors" in their ears saying other things to sway them off. multiple insiders have already reported that there are a quite a few handlers dealing treir's recruiting. even if we do play the recruiting game dirty like other programs, we do have limited resources and other issues to compete with the big dogs Sorry, who is "Dorsey"? Could you be referring to PJ Dozier?
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 2, 2014 18:30:47 GMT -5
probably reaves/dorsey. reaves is most likely to pop for us if the staff shows continued to support, there is not much competition there. with trier, it kinda reminds me of the recruiting for elbert robinson last year... originally a strong hoya lean who was ready to commit to us, but the "advisors" in their ears saying other things to sway them off. multiple insiders have already reported that there are a quite a few handlers dealing treir's recruiting. even if we do play the recruiting game dirty like other programs, we do have limited resources and other issues to compete with the big dogs Sorry, who is "Dorsey"? Could you be referring to PJ Dozier? He's referring to Kevin Dorsey from Paul VI and Team Takover.. Dorsey is a PG who has played very well this spring.. I'm not sure the staff has shown any interest in recruiting him though.. verbalcommits.com/players/kevin-dorsey
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 2, 2014 19:37:36 GMT -5
B&G, With the possibility for Trier and Mann waning, where should our priority be and how realistic are our chances? Bacon Reaves R. Smith Crawford Dorsey I wish I knew, but I honestly don't. I also am careful not to pester III and the staff with too many "what ifs". Most of what I know involves who we are pursuing and how hard we are pursuing. In very few instances do I actually get insight on what commitments are imminent and in those instances its usually not for publication. Trust me that I will publish whatever I can as soon as I know it. With regard to the remaining recruits, I think its going to be a long haul before we nail down the last few guys and I have a feeling that a few new names may pop up that currently are off the radar. My point is, let's not get too invested in anyone of the guys above.....we are not the clear favorite for any of them. That said, I do like our chances with one of the guys not named above in the likes of Ivan Rabb. I'm not saying we land him, but I do think we have a darn good shot. If we land Ivan, we will become quite attractive to the top level guards; some of those who may not have us at the top of their list right now may see things a little differently.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 2, 2014 19:37:51 GMT -5
B&G, With the possibility for Trier and Mann waning, where should our priority be and how realistic are our chances? Bacon Reaves R. Smith Crawford Dorsey I wish I knew, but I honestly don't. I also am careful not to pester III and the staff with too many "what ifs". Most of what I know involves who we are pursuing and how hard we are pursuing. In very few instances do I actually get insight on what commitments are imminent and in those instances its usually not for publication. Trust me that I will publish whatever I can as soon as I know it. With regard to the remaining recruits, I think its going to be a long haul before we nail down the last few guys and I have a feeling that a few new names may pop up that currently are off the radar. My point is, let's not get too invested in anyone of the guys above.....we are not the clear favorite for any of them. That said, I do like our chances with one of the guys not named above in the likes of Ivan Rabb. I'm not saying we land him, but I do think we have a darn good shot. Very sound approach.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 2, 2014 19:45:28 GMT -5
Can't blame the kid for listening to other offers after he blew up. I'm sure it's flattering to have blue blood basketball programs come calling. Doesn't mean he won't end up a Hoya. Agree. It obviously doesn't sound as positive as maybe it had for the Hoyas with Trier but he should consider all of his options and decide on the best fit. I still like the quote from him that he had to sit down and discuss everything with his mom. He's obviously earned all of the attention he's getting. If he doesn't end up a Hoya, the staff has been rolling and I'm confident in what they're doing (not that I know anything about anything).
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Post by blueandgray on Jun 3, 2014 21:19:33 GMT -5
Lots of chatter about where Trier may end up. Staff is still very much in the game and committed to Trier.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 3, 2014 22:48:42 GMT -5
Lots of chatter about where Trier may end up. Staff is still very much in the game and committed to Trier. Good to hear. Georgetown isn't like a lot of other schools and I don't mean that in the typical, arrogant Hoya way. That's no more true than when it comes to basketball. We're a small, private school with garbage facilities (for now) that also is serious about its academics for all of its students. That's a tough sell to the majority of high level recruits. But we also have the history of Big John and the values that he instilled and demanded that his guys respect. He got Patrick and Patrick became a Hall of Famer and a great ambassador to the program. Same with Alonzo. And (hopefully) Dikembe. Big John's legacy is still important and his influence remains. But, we also have JT3. And, not very long ago, it was just the guys coming out of Georgetown saying how much they learned about the game in school and how it better prepared them for the next level. In more recent years, people in the league say it for them. That is incredibly valuable. It's not as sexy or, likely, as large of a selling point to a 16 or 17 year old that would love to play in the best facilities with the macked out dorm rooms on the campus with the best looking women and the craziest parties. But is a huge selling point to the right recruits. The ones that would be happiest at Georgetown with a longer view and an eye on improving and making it to the next level. It's a tougher sell to the kids that will make the NBA anyway. But, even in that group, there are guys that aren't content with having one good year and moving on with no work or improvement during that year required. Those guys could survive a year of lesser facilities. It's just a year or two. They should be there to work. Georgetown, regardless of what anyone says, develops players better than most schools I can think of. That's the biggest selling point from a basketball perspective. It's just a tough sell to a lot of guys that think they're good enough already.
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Post by Talos on Jun 5, 2014 15:39:35 GMT -5
Lots of chatter about where Trier may end up. Staff is still very much in the game and committed to Trier. Is that "good" chatter or "bad" chatter?
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Post by hoyafan23 on Jun 6, 2014 12:38:42 GMT -5
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Post by triplehoya09 on Jun 6, 2014 13:49:34 GMT -5
Have to think we're still in good shape. All the groundwork the staff has put in up front should likely make us a top contender. Can't blame the kid for considering all his options. If we land Trier, we'll be so nasty in 2015.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 6, 2014 20:30:08 GMT -5
The EYBL Circuit @d1circuit 1h EYBL's leading-scorer Allonzo Trier (@iso_Zo) is on an unofficial visit to Oklahoma today. #Big12 #D1 @athletesfirst1
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 6, 2014 23:02:09 GMT -5
Trier recently tweeted that he got an offer from Arizona.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 7, 2014 7:55:28 GMT -5
Trier recently tweeted that he got an offer from Arizona. Retweeted by Michael Bohlin Allonzo Trier @iso_Zo 9h Just got off the phone with head coach Sean Miller of Arizona and he has formally extended an offer to me. #Wildcats #BearDown
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 9:37:10 GMT -5
Az is greedy as hell smh….
They already have 2 5 star guards signed for 2014…
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Post by nathanhm on Jun 7, 2014 10:46:28 GMT -5
Az is greedy as hell smh…. They already have 2 5 star guards signed for 2014… Lol our front court for the next 2 years is just as greedy
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 7, 2014 17:23:54 GMT -5
never got the arizona motto of bear down. Whenever I hear that I just think of a bowel movement. lol
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Post by hoyazeke on Jun 7, 2014 18:34:41 GMT -5
We just have to hope that Allonzo was considered a GTown lean because he loved the program and not because it was the best choice at the time. If he only liked GTown because the bluebloods hadn't called yet then we are done. If he truly liked the program and truly is considering us then we are still in great position. I hope he wants to do something different and bring a C'ship to a school that hasn't won one in a few years. Even if he doesn't come to GTown I would be OK as long as it's not UK, KU, or UNC............
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 7, 2014 21:58:03 GMT -5
That combo of Rabb and Trier still hangs out there in the form of thin thread of hope.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 7, 2014 22:20:40 GMT -5
We just have to hope that Allonzo was considered a GTown lean because he loved the program and not because it was the best choice at the time. If he only liked GTown because the bluebloods hadn't called yet then we are done. If he truly liked the program and truly is considering us then we are still in great position. I hope he wants to do something different and bring a C'ship to a school that hasn't won one in a few years. Even if he doesn't come to GTown I would be OK as long as it's not UK, KU, or UNC............ Best choice is something for him to decide. Even if we win a championship in the near future or 2 or 3 (can we please??), Georgetown will always be a very different animal than those other places if the past is any indication of the future (I hope it is in this case). We won't ever have an alumnus coming out saying that he had tutors write his papers and his classes were bogus. That's not Georgetown basketball or Georgetown the school. That's great for some and horrible for many. I couldn't help but think reading the latest about UNC, true or not, that if something like that was written about Georgetown, how would I feel? First off, no one would believe a word of it if it was an article about Georgetown. My sense is that pretty much everyone believes it about UNC. What more is there to say? They might be a blue blood in college basketball but at what cost? I'm happy to get guys like Jeff Green and Greg Monroe and Roy Hibbert and Jon Wallace and Alonzo Mourning and dozens and dozens of others that don't just enroll to play ball. Hell, Iverson went to class. I'd see him Tuesdays and Thursdays. Not some Tuesdays and Thursdays. ALL Tuesdays and Thursdays. Georgetown is different both to its credit and its detriment. The guys that choose to attend and find a good fit, almost to a man, make the rest of us look really good because they feel about the school how we feel about the school. If it's a bad fit and there's an easier road, of course many kids will pick that. Especially if they're a near lock for the draft. Having said that, there aren't many schools that talk about kids coming out of programs the way scouts talk about the guys that come out of Georgetown. Georgetown teaches basketball. The guys come out better than they came in. You learn to read the defenses and make the right pass or take the right shot. You learn to be a complete player. Talent can mask a lot of deficiencies. But more guys are Tim Duncan types than are LeBron James types. Tim Duncan isn't Tim Duncan without his time at Wake. LeBron is LeBron regardless. Most guys need that time to grow as a player. There aren't many programs that do it better than ours does. Both on and off the court. And that's not the easiest road or the easiest sell to a young guy. But, if you are one of the guys that chooses that path, it does pay its dividends. Second contract if nothing else.
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