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Post by younghoya32 on Mar 27, 2005 21:54:15 GMT -5
It's been a depressing, boring couple of days and I wish I could just press the easy button and have next years season here.
With 'Nova, Uconn, and WVU returning most of its players (as well as GU) and Louisville and Cincinatti entering anyone have early predictions?
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Post by Gtown4Life on Mar 27, 2005 21:59:10 GMT -5
my top 5 for next year are
1. Villanova
2. Uconn
3. Louisville
4. Cincinatti
5. Georgetown
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Post by Gtown4Life on Mar 27, 2005 22:00:09 GMT -5
west virginia will be decent but without sally and the slashing they will rely on shooting way too much and its gonna cost them in a good amount of games. Probably another 8-8 year for them 9-7 at best.
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 22:19:33 GMT -5
Here it is, lock it in, bank on it.
Georgetown: IF DJ returns and the Froshes are good. If not, under Louisville.
VU: Loss of Foye will hurt them a lot. Will Sumpter ever be the same after ACL?
Louisville: Even without Garcia, they will be formidible.
Yukon: Losses of Villanueva and seniors will hurt them a lot.
Cincinnati: Young and improving.
Syracuse: Gerry can't carry them alone.
WVU: This year's run means valuable experience; loss of 3 seniors hurts.
SJU: Roberts has his kids believing.
DePaul: on the good side of mediocre.
ND: Most unathletic team in the conference.
Pitt: Chevy's gone....
Marquette: on the bad side of mediocre.
SHU: Cerasoli's team now.
RU: Ugh.
PC: Ugh Ugh.
USF: Blech.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 27, 2005 22:20:50 GMT -5
my top 5 for next year are 1. Villanova 2. Uconn 3. Louisville 4. Cincinatti 5. Georgetown That looks about right. I think Nova, Louisville, and UConn will be at the top. After that will be some combo of Cincinatti, West Virginia, Georgetown, and Notre Dame. WVU had a lot of success this year, Gansey reminds me more and more of a righty Chris Mullin, and Pittsnogle played as well as any center in the tournament other than probably Bogut and May. They'll be tough again next year. Also, I really think Chris Thomas' value to Notre Dame was overrated, and with Quinn, Falls, and Francis back, theyll be as dangerous as they were this year. Of course, Pitt and 'Cuse are perenially good, so dont sleep on them. I dont know enough about Depaul to form an opinion of them. The conference next year will be RIDICULOUS. Its gonna be so hard to make 1st team all conference etc. |
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 27, 2005 22:22:27 GMT -5
I like the enthusiasm YB, but I'm going with something more like Gtown4Life picked. If we can be somewhere in the 3rd-5th in the conference range all season and finish there I will be pumped. That would be an awesome season and I think we can do it if things click for us.
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Post by younghoya32 on Mar 27, 2005 22:28:55 GMT -5
Here it is, lock it in, bank on it. VU: Loss of Foye will hurt them a lot. Will Sumpter ever be the same after ACL? Is Foye going pro or something? As far as I know he has a year left. |
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 22:30:01 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that we were 2nd in the conference until our slide. With 2-3 seniors, a talented freshman class, developing and talented sophs.... well coached....
I'd also like to point out that Charlie ain't coming back to Yukon. They may also have other defections, and history has shown that young Yukon teams don't have championship seasons. Look at 1997 and 2001.
Cinci is going to be good but they are still 2 years away, IF they don't lose anyone- and remember they graduate NO ONE. No one stays there.
Louisville is losing Garcia. I'll leave it at that. They will be good but not as good next year.
Nova loses Foye and maybe more.
We are the only one not losing anyone significant, IF DJ STAYS. He must stay for us to finish 1st. If not, maybe 3rd.
But I love our chances for next year. Froshes in low-pressure support roles.... gotta like that.
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 22:31:49 GMT -5
Nova loses either Foye or Ray (graduation), and maybe Nardi too. I can't remember but they lose a key senior guard and Sumpter will have to rehab that ACL hard.... it usually takes a full year and then some to fully recover...
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 27, 2005 22:40:53 GMT -5
Whoa YB, your info is seriously flawed!!! Nova does NOT lose Foye, Ray or Nardi. They do not lose any key guards, unless you think Walk-on Tom Grace is that instrumental to the teams success ;D. Other than Grace they only lose Marcus Austin. They have to be the team to beat next season.
As for Cinci, I dont really know what you were trying to say but they do lose their best player Jason Maxiell, as he is a senior.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 27, 2005 22:45:06 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that we were 2nd in the conference until our slide. With 2-3 seniors, a talented freshman class, developing and talented sophs.... well coached.... I'd also like to point out that Charlie ain't coming back to Yukon. They may also have other defections, and history has shown that young Yukon teams don't have championship seasons. Look at 1997 and 2001. Cinci is going to be good but they are still 2 years away, IF they don't lose anyone- and remember they graduate NO ONE. No one stays there. Louisville is losing Garcia. I'll leave it at that. They will be good but not as good next year. Nova loses Foye and maybe more. We are the only one not losing anyone significant, IF DJ STAYS. He must stay for us to finish 1st. If not, maybe 3rd. But I love our chances for next year. Froshes in low-pressure support roles.... gotta like that. Love the enthusiasm too, but: Foye ought to be back another year. There were rumors that Wright was afraid one of his players would go pro (no names mentioned) but I really doubt Foye bolts. He played great this year and is Novas best player in my opinion, but he's not a true point guard enough to be a high pick in the NBA. I expect theyll return all of their contributors, and be a top 10, maybe even top 5 team in preseason polls. I know we stole one from them and were ahead of them before our slide, but we all watched the game when we played them at MCI. Theyre a notch above us right now, and next year their big 4 will be seniors (and Lowry will be a year more experienced). UConn loses Charlie V, but Williams/Gay/Boone has potential to be the best trio in the nation. Boone and Gay are lotto picks next year. After watching our game at UConn this year, it was pretty clear we didnt have the players to hang with them. They looked a lot weaker down the stretch, but I still think theyre a stronger team. And Louisville loses Garcia, O'Bannon and tMyles, but they still have Dean, Padgett will be eligible (right?) and they have the best recruiting class in the country.... and speaking of recruiting classes, you seem to have a high opinion of ours and I do too.... but Louisville has the top recruiting class in the nation. UConn has 3 top 100 recruits (though I have my doubts about this guy Bynum--he didnt make 1st team all area here in Central NJ, and got next to no publicity in the local paper at seasons end... we'll see). Notre Dame, Marquette, and Syracuse are all bringing in 2 top 100 recruits as well. Im not saying theyll be better than our recruits, but if you judge based solely on publicity and recruiting sites, our recruits arent that spectacular in a relative sense. |
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Post by ShimmyJr on Mar 27, 2005 22:49:14 GMT -5
isn't Nardi a soph and the rest of that amazing recruiting class will be all seniors next year - they are definitely the team to beat and unless we can shore up the interior, especially on the boards, i think we are looking at middle of the conference behind:
Nova
UConn
Louisville
Cincinatti
West Virginia
Pitt? (don't know if Taft will stay)
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 22:50:45 GMT -5
I thought I heard CBS say Foye was a senior. If they lose no one, they would likely be the favorites, with us behind them if DJ stays and behind L'Ville if he doesn't.
Cinci will be good tho- Shuemaker center is a tough place to play, good on-campus arena (ahem). And a lot of BE teams are headed for down years, like Cuse, for instance.
It should be us, Nova, Louisville, Yukon, Cinci competing for the title, with WVU, SJU, DePaul, ND in the next tier.
I do like our chances tho- we have proven this year, without much depth and in the first year of a tough new offense, that we can play with anyone. That's why I like us next year. Hell, we did beat Nova on their home court, where Kansaw got waxed by 25!
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 27, 2005 22:55:57 GMT -5
RB, I dont know why he didnt make whatever team or get recent publicity but I dont think you have to be doubting Bynum too much. He was reacruited very heavily by tons of big time programs including UNC and us as well and I heard a lot about him early in the year.
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 22:56:31 GMT -5
OK, first off: Did Yukon not prove to you all they are choking dogs this year??? Boone has no post moves! Williams does not shoot well from the outside. Gay is good, but not superstar as yet.
Nova will be good, as I said; but name for me the team we cannot play with. We've beaten Nova. Villanueva, who killed us vs Yukon, is leaving. None of the other Huskies really stepped up against us.
We're one of several schools with good incoming Frosh classes, BUT we will not be relying on them like the others, except for depth. No pressure. They can learn the system. Keeps guys like Bowman and Green fresh.
I love our position a lot more than the others, except maybe Villanova, and we have already proven that this year, with little depth and little experience, we can play with them.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 27, 2005 22:58:10 GMT -5
Hell, we did beat Nova on their home court, where Kansaw got waxed by 25! Actually, The Kansas game was at the Wachovia Center, not at the Pavilion. So, both their "home court" but not exactly the same thing. |
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 27, 2005 23:00:21 GMT -5
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 27, 2005 23:02:42 GMT -5
OK, first off: Did Yukon not prove to you all they are choking dogs this year??? Boone has no post moves! Williams does not shoot well from the outside. Gay is good, but not superstar as yet. Nova will be good, as I said; but name for me the team we cannot play with. We've beaten Nova. Villanueva, who killed us vs Yukon, is leaving. None of the other Huskies really stepped up against us. We're one of several schools with good incoming Frosh classes, BUT we will not be relying on them like the others, except for depth. No pressure. They can learn the system. Keeps guys like Bowman and Green fresh. I love our position a lot more than the others, except maybe Villanova, and we have already proven that this year, with little depth and little experience, we can play with them. Yeah, we can play with anyone, but I dont see any reason why we are hands down good enough to win the conference. I think we most definitely will be realying on Frosh. Green, Bowman and Cook are our only proven consistent contributors. We're gonna need Sapp to be stud from day one to be a great team. We also need Thornton's shooting to be on, we need Spann and/or Egerson to be ready and we need to land another big man in this class before its over to give Jeff and Roy some rest. |
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Post by YB on Mar 27, 2005 23:19:41 GMT -5
This is why DJ is so important. I don't think any of the Froshes start, probably; but having DJ to play defense, shoot and run the offense is crucial, to me.
We needed more scoring, rebounds and assists off the bench; we'll get that in this freshman class, I think. We do need another big and we need Roy to improve; but what about Sead? he can shoot and pass, and can be a good spare part type big man for us if we don't land anyone else.
We won't be hands-down better- no one will be in this new conference- but we should be certainly among the class of the conference, and if things fall right we should be THE class of it.
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Post by HoyaNJ5 on Mar 27, 2005 23:55:30 GMT -5
Ultimately, we will need a guard to step up, hopefully Sapp. Nova is better than us simply because their guards are hands down better than ours. Foye and Ray ate us alive when they came to town. As much as I love Ashanti and Jon, they just aren't athletic enough to keep up with the Nova guards. I think that's also why Nova could play with Carolina ---- cause their guards were so good.
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