IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Nov 2, 2014 16:57:53 GMT -5
I like the fact parents are involved in the decision. And they have some legitimate concerns and can accentuate the positives of a program. I also prefer kids stay out of the spotlight when making the decision. It's theirs and one of the biggest they will ever make in their lives, no need to have a bunch of media or Internet hacks getting involved. But what I don't like is parents who become cheerleaders publicly for one school and put themselves into the equation. It seems self serving and a bit like trying to up the ante. I don't know if that's the case here and from all accounts they have handled themselves above reproach. I'd love to have Dozier become a Hoya.
USCe is probably where his heart is. But how good are they? Would be hard to look at the success Louisville has had and pass on them. But how truthful are they in saying he'd be a 1? And for how long? Hoyas seem to have the right mix...talent ( let's hope ) style of play and a promise to play point.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2014 19:18:28 GMT -5
Adam Zagoria retweeted Jack LeGwin @jacklegwin 31m31 minutes ago Just spoke with PJ Dozier's father, he says the goal will be to have decision made by the weekend, and to announce on ESPN. Piece coming.
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 2, 2014 19:19:27 GMT -5
If the goal is to announce on ESPN, I'm not comforted.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2014 19:35:19 GMT -5
zagsblog.com/articles/pj-dozier-commitment-coming-soon/“Hopefully, he will have his mind made up by this coming weekend,” Dozier’s father, Perry, told SNY.tv Sunday night following P.J.’s official visit to Louisville this weekend. “We will probably just notify the coaches what we will decide to do, and then he would make his announcement on ESPN.”
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Nov 2, 2014 19:56:05 GMT -5
This all seems very strange. If Dozier hasn't decided on a school yet (and all of this indicates that he hasn't), then why is his father trying to put a clock on his decision?
He has taken all of his visits, and has presumably been presented with all of the information that he will need to make his choice. If he hasn't chosen yet, then how can his father be sure that he will be ready to announce this week? It seems like they are trying to rush the decision with the goal of announcing on ESPN, which in my opinion does not bode well for Georgetown.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 2, 2014 22:35:29 GMT -5
This all seems very strange. If Dozier hasn't decided on a school yet (and all of this indicates that he hasn't), then why is his father trying to put a clock on his decision? He has taken all of his visits, and has presumably been presented with all of the information that he will need to make his choice. If he hasn't chosen yet, then how can his father be sure that he will be ready to announce this week? It seems like they are trying to rush the decision with the goal of announcing on ESPN, which in my opinion does not bode well for Georgetown. It seems pretty clear that he knows where he's going. If he didn't, as you mentioned, the goal of deciding this week is very odd.
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Nov 2, 2014 22:58:29 GMT -5
I don't think he's coming here, but it's hard not to dream of a Dozier/DSR/Peak/Copeland/Govan starting lineup with Paul White as one of the best sixth man in the nation, and Tre, Hayes, Cameron, Derrickson and Trey coming off the bench... DSR and Peak would be absolute terrors playing off the ball if Dozier really can handle the PG duties...
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Post by TC on Nov 2, 2014 23:09:12 GMT -5
I don't think he's coming here, but it's hard not to dream of a Dozier/DSR/Peak/Copeland/Govan starting lineup with Paul White as one of the best sixth man in the nation, and Tre, Hayes, Cameron, Derrickson and Trey coming off the bench... DSR and Peak would be absolute terrors playing off the ball if Dozier really can handle the PG duties... I like to dream about JT3 recruiting the monsters from Space Jam to do some beast mode rebounding for the Hoyas, but that doesn't mean it's in any way realistic.
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Post by hurrahforgeorgetown on Nov 3, 2014 6:58:28 GMT -5
Doziers father says he is 50/50 on staying home and leaving, which pretty clearly means he hasn't made a decision yet. I would put us ahead of Ville but that's just a gut feeling
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Nov 3, 2014 7:02:15 GMT -5
They planning on signing a LOI this fall?
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Post by prhoya on Nov 3, 2014 8:51:01 GMT -5
They planning on signing a LOI this fall? I see what you did there.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 3, 2014 9:38:49 GMT -5
This all seems very strange. If Dozier hasn't decided on a school yet (and all of this indicates that he hasn't), then why is his father trying to put a clock on his decision? He has taken all of his visits, and has presumably been presented with all of the information that he will need to make his choice. If he hasn't chosen yet, then how can his father be sure that he will be ready to announce this week? It seems like they are trying to rush the decision with the goal of announcing on ESPN, which in my opinion does not bode well for Georgetown. Not so strange. He will have the info he needs, and wants to make a decision so that he does not have the recruiting distractions during his season. They have to make a choice at some point. A deadline can help.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 3, 2014 11:59:26 GMT -5
This all seems very strange. If Dozier hasn't decided on a school yet (and all of this indicates that he hasn't), then why is his father trying to put a clock on his decision? He has taken all of his visits, and has presumably been presented with all of the information that he will need to make his choice. If he hasn't chosen yet, then how can his father be sure that he will be ready to announce this week? It seems like they are trying to rush the decision with the goal of announcing on ESPN, which in my opinion does not bode well for Georgetown. Not so strange. He will have the info he needs, and wants to make a decision so that he does not have the recruiting distractions during his season. They have to make a choice at some point. A deadline can help. The Dozier family from what I hear has been great throughout the process and are really being careful they make the right decision for PJ. In-homes are being coordinated now....and yes, we are one of them.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 3, 2014 12:10:59 GMT -5
Not so strange. He will have the info he needs, and wants to make a decision so that he does not have the recruiting distractions during his season. They have to make a choice at some point. A deadline can help. The Dozier family from what I hear has been great throughout the process and are really being careful they make the right decision for PJ. In-homes are being coordinated now....and yes, we are one of them. Awesome. I like that they are having the coaches come back through after all the visits. It allows for the visits to soak in, but not to lead to a rushed / poorly thought out commit due to a fun weekend. Also, not sure why people are jumping on the parents so much. It makes sense that a dad w/ D1 experience would be involved and that he'd want to keep his kid from getting overwhelmed with media requests or making an ass out of himself (he is a teenager, and therefore prone to such things) in interviews/on twitter/etc. (Similar to how, say, some schools don't let freshman talk to the media for a semester). And its nice seeing parents running the show instead of an AAU guy trying to make sure his runner is happy. It's a lot better than, say, having his own hashtag and a "mentor" setting up a random school for him to play basketball at. And announcements on ESPN? While not exactly heartening for our chances, based on past history, I'd bet most of the guys on our team would have announced on ESPN if they'd had the chance.
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Post by navio on Nov 3, 2014 12:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by matersammich on Nov 3, 2014 13:18:03 GMT -5
Sounds like we're getting a fair shot which is encouraging. We need him to play the position he wants to play and the team next year will be stacked with talent at the other spots.
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Post by IDenj on Nov 3, 2014 13:28:41 GMT -5
The Dozier family from what I hear has been great throughout the process and are really being careful they make the right decision for PJ. In-homes are being coordinated now....and yes, we are one of them. Awesome. I like that they are having the coaches come back through after all the visits. It allows for the visits to soak in, but not to lead to a rushed / poorly thought out commit due to a fun weekend. Also, not sure why people are jumping on the parents so much. It makes sense that a dad w/ D1 experience would be involved and that he'd want to keep his kid from getting overwhelmed with media requests or making an ass out of himself (he is a teenager, and therefore prone to such things) in interviews/on twitter/etc. (Similar to how, say, some schools don't let freshman talk to the media for a semester). And its nice seeing parents running the show instead of an AAU guy trying to make sure his runner is happy. It's a lot better than, say, having his own hashtag and a "mentor" setting up a random school for him to play basketball at. And announcements on ESPN? While not exactly heartening for our chances, based on past history, I'd bet most of the guys on our team would have announced on ESPN if they'd had the chance. I wouldn't say people are jumping on the parents. It was just me commenting on parents who involve themselves in the process more than they should. Based on experience it happens far to frequently. I did qualify it by saying it doesn't seem to be the case here. BG say they are cool so that's good enought for me.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 3, 2014 13:49:40 GMT -5
This seems to be a situation where we have done all we can do. The staff has been on Dozier for quite some time, and we are now in his last three. One of the other schools only prioritized him recently (Louisville), and the other has a strong pull by being the hometown favorite.
Given the dynamics, I do think this will be a tough one to win (and really, you cannot blame him for picking either Louisville or South Carolina - there are legitimate reasons for picking both). If Dozier wants to be a one-and-done or two-and-done, then South Carolina doesn't seem like the best choice. There's been a lot of talk regarding whether Dozier fits Louisville's system well - that could play a factor.
Georgetown seems like it would be a good place for Dozier. Not only would he unquestionably be the point guard next year, but he would have a great supporting cast. I think Georgetown has a lot to offer, but the reality is that in this situation, Dozier would have legitimate reasons for picking the other places too. Hopefully, he chooses us in the end.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 3, 2014 13:51:52 GMT -5
Awesome. I like that they are having the coaches come back through after all the visits. It allows for the visits to soak in, but not to lead to a rushed / poorly thought out commit due to a fun weekend. Also, not sure why people are jumping on the parents so much. It makes sense that a dad w/ D1 experience would be involved and that he'd want to keep his kid from getting overwhelmed with media requests or making an ass out of himself (he is a teenager, and therefore prone to such things) in interviews/on twitter/etc. (Similar to how, say, some schools don't let freshman talk to the media for a semester). And its nice seeing parents running the show instead of an AAU guy trying to make sure his runner is happy. It's a lot better than, say, having his own hashtag and a "mentor" setting up a random school for him to play basketball at. And announcements on ESPN? While not exactly heartening for our chances, based on past history, I'd bet most of the guys on our team would have announced on ESPN if they'd had the chance. I wouldn't say people are jumping on the parents. It was just me commenting on parents who involve themselves in the process more than they should. Based on experience it happens far to frequently. I did qualify it by saying it doesn't seem to be the case here. BG say they are cool so that's good enought for me. Fair enough. It's just seemed that people are laying the groundwork to blame the parents if Dozier doesn't come here, which seems unnecessary. A kid choosing to go elsewhere doesn't have to be influenced by nefarious forces--sometimes, he just prefers a different coach / school. And in this case, the Doziers seem to be doing a good job of helping their son make the right choice for him. Hopefully that's Georgetown.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 3, 2014 13:55:46 GMT -5
While I can see the hometown arguments resonating with some people, there's no amount of money that could get me to work or play for Frank Martin. I have no urge to spend significant parts of my life dealing with personalities like that. This is just me; I realize some people have no problem with tons of yelling and obvious anger issues, and yeah, every coach yells, but why would I want to subject myself to that when there are exceptional coaches who don't act like that?
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