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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 23, 2005 9:23:35 GMT -5
I think everyone knows this, but on Jeff's last call he got all ball. The ref was blowing the whistle before the play and I think since the Cal St. player fell kind of awkward he thought he got body. They replayed it about four times on TV and it was one of his best blocks of the night.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 23, 2005 9:27:58 GMT -5
I think everyone knows this, but on Jeff's last call he got all ball. The ref was blowing the whistle before the play and I think since the Cal St. player fell kind of awkward he thought he got body. They replayed it about four times on TV and it was one of his best blocks of the night. Yea, watching it live it looked really clean, and then I could see a small tv monitor, where I saw again that it was in fact clean. After seeing that replay myself and all those around me really tried to get on the referees case. It was nice to see Jeff get at least a little fired up though. |
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Post by stafford72 on Mar 23, 2005 9:59:27 GMT -5
It obviously did not make any difference this game, but Jeff needs to learn what risks not to take, particularly when he has few fouls left to give.
I would also give kudos to the air conditioning system. The arena was fairly comfortable, not the sweat box it has been in the past.
Big John was perched up at the upper level in seclusion toward the stage end across from the Gtown bench. He manages to remain rather stoic during the proceedings. He should be proud of what his son has accomplished. Also saw Gtowns senior women's forward/center from Russia sitting by us. Nice looking girl. Could have done an ad for the jeans she was wearing.
Very good to see Jonathon Wallace have a good scoring game. He once again played with a lot of confidence--handled the ball well, but he could not stay with #3. Reed did the best job on him. Crawford got lots of minutes, but did not do much on offense--did not see the ball in position--but he is an excellent rebounder for his height. Diaw was the choice off the bench in the second half when Green got in foul trouble.
He was a non-factor, but made his two free throws nicely.
I don't know about the guy with the large arrow cut-out and his twirling gig either, but I give him credit for being out there on his own and showing some skill with the thing. At least he didn't spear any of the spectators.
We have witnessed much worse "entertainment" during Gtown games. Speaking of which, the dance group at halftime did quite well and a few of those girls --the blonde with the hair in her face, especiallly-- had the best moves with the best equipment seen all night.
Unfortunately for them, I recorded the game on my DVD, ESPN did not cover any of it.
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 23, 2005 10:32:25 GMT -5
I was sitting on the far side of the court, so I couldn't really tell, but from what I have heard from people who saw it on TV, the announcers looked at the replay and determined that the foul was the right call. Maybe someone else on this board saw it on the tube and heard/saw something different
Back to the Green-Monster himself though. At the beggining of the year, he was listed as 6'8", and I remember comparing his height to Bowman's at the beggining of the year. Bowman, who is listed as 6'8.5" was undoubtedly taller. Last night, based on what someone on this board said, I took another look when they stood next to each other. Green had to have been at least 1-1.5" taller then Bowman. That's insane. Maybe the kid is gonna be 7' the way he's going. And if he can learn to bring down a few more boards a game, he will be unstoppable (and not just against the America East and Big West Teams).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 23, 2005 10:36:38 GMT -5
The announcers were Jarvis and some guy they picked off the street.
It was clean. 100%. Absolutely no contact; no hand; no wrist; no arm; no body. The whistle was blowing before the play, as the refs did all night. I have no idea who they were, but the refs were outclassed. The calls were almost random. If it had been a closer game, it would have been a bigger deal.
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Post by HoyaSox04 on Mar 23, 2005 10:40:43 GMT -5
That was also maybe the highest I've seen any person jump in my entire life - behind that hoop and to the right, I swear that Jeff hit that ball when it was halfway up the backboard.
Just unreal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2005 10:46:30 GMT -5
The announcers were Jarvis and some guy they picked off the street. The "guy they picked off the street" was Dave Strader, who actually has done a lot of work on ESPN before - on NHL games. So, he pretty much has been sitting around doing nothing for a while. |
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Post by tgo on Mar 23, 2005 10:55:45 GMT -5
from what I have heard from people who saw it on TV, the announcers looked at the replay and determined that the foul was the right call. Maybe someone else on this board saw it on the tube and heard/saw something different The announcers thought the play was clean (anyone who says it wasnt is on crack) but thought Green had gotten away with a no call earlier in the game so they felt it was justified which is crap. A no call on the previous play and maybe you make something up but not something a while back in the game. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2005 10:57:09 GMT -5
Actually, it was so loud in McD that the ref couldn't hear the play.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2005 11:02:23 GMT -5
Actually, it was so loud in McD that the ref couldn't hear the play. It WAS loud. I was sitting near the band, so it was REALLY loud at times. I was wondering if the noise level would come across on TV, but I watched some of the game on TiVo after I got home last night, and it sounded great. I was disappointed that ESPN went to a commercial when the "Jeff Green's Mom!" chant came up early in the seond half.... Refs were weird last night. They called some ticky-tack stuff while letting some heavy pushing and shoving go at times. |
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 23, 2005 11:49:01 GMT -5
TV viewers found out all they needed to know about the crowd when, in his pregame remarks, Jarvis said he was glad he never had to bring a team into McD.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2005 11:54:58 GMT -5
TV viewers found out all they needed to know about the crowd when, in his pregame remarks, Jarvis said he was glad he never had to bring a team into McD. Ronny Perry, now a TV color guy, could tell you about that first hand. |
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Post by FLHoya on Mar 23, 2005 12:16:23 GMT -5
I always wonder where they get the referees for NIT games--you have to assume that nobody's working both tournaments right? Like you're not going to see Tim Higgins tonight working a Memphis-Vandy quarterfinal then see him over the weekend doing the Regional Final in Syracuse.
All off the refs last night split their time primarily between the ACC and CAA, one of them does some Southern Conference stuff. But they were seriously outclassed--I actually saw the opposite problem as some people, I thought they blew whistles extremely late on fouls.
I just watched the tape of Green's fifth foul--discovering in the process that my head appears in the middle of the GU huddle right after this play--and it's completely clean. It's even more inexcusable because the official is in the right position to make the call and just...blows it (he doesn't blow the whistle early though, it blows as the ball hits the backboard).
Two reasons you can tell it isn't a foul:
1. Bobby Brown finishes his move and grabs the rim. If Jeff had hit the arm, it would have flown back and he'd never have been able to grab the rim.
2. Check out the spin on the ball and how it comes off the backboard. Jeff swatted at it rather than going straight up, and the ball is clearly spinning sideways...rather like a cardboard arrow, thrown spinning into the air at a halftime show.
Perhaps ACC officials had a hard time adjusting to these things we do in the Big East, like "shot blocking" and "defense".
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Post by Bahstin on Mar 23, 2005 12:57:28 GMT -5
Dan,
Why Ron Perry? What's the story?
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2005 13:13:12 GMT -5
Dan, Why Ron Perry? What's the story? Holy Cross came into McD in February 1978. Ron(nie) Perry was, at the time, the leading scorer in the nation. The Hoyas stifled the Crusaders, 77-61. Perry was harassed mercilessly from before the game by the crowd and during the game by the Hoya defense. I don't remember how many Perry ended up with, but it was in the low single digits. From HC's site: March 1980: Men's basketball team falls to Iona in NCAA Tournament. Ron Perry ends college basketball career as New England all-time leading scorer with 2,542 points. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 23, 2005 13:36:02 GMT -5
This also reminded me of the 82 finals. I wasn't even a fan back then, but I saw it yesterday on ESPN classic. In the middle of the second half, the refs call three ticky tac fouls on the hoyas who were up by two at the time. The next time or two down the floor, they called Ewing for his fourth on a matador defensive play where he didn't even interrupt the offensive player.
They then call a foul on UNC but determine that UNC had called for a time out before the foul. I think this drastically effected the way we played the rest of the game and I don't think Jordan's shot would have mattered because we would have been up ten. Still bitter and I didn't even like the hoyas back then!
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