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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 19, 2005 11:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2005 15:12:50 GMT -5
Zags lose. The WCC has no teams playing in either tournament. I am floored by this development as I had St. Mary's and Gonzaga in the Final Four and USF winning the NIT.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 19, 2005 16:28:35 GMT -5
I had Gonzaga in the Final Four (and Syracuse too, bracket on serious life support right now), but St. Mary's? WOW. I hope you're being sarcastic.
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Post by RDF on Mar 19, 2005 16:52:36 GMT -5
Nice to see Gon-GAG-ugh do their usual fade/choke job in 2nd Round. Ever since Few Editeded and moaned about not getting high seeds his teams have gotten high seeds, barely won their 1st Round game and then got "upset" in 2nd Round. Granted, this team was better than that overrated group of stiffs last year (Blake Stepp was a bum) but it's nice to see Ronny Turiaf finally graduate (or will he be back for another 10 years??) and end his career with some major choking down stretch. Zags got next to nothing from Raivio too. His lack of defense on Jackson killed them and his poor shot selection really took a nice momentum away from Zags and gave TT life when it appeared their hopes were faint.
I do respect Adam Morrison's game a lot and think he's an excellent player. Found it odd that Few allowed team to go away from him as Tech got back in game and then when even, Morrison took over with 6 straight points and it becaome Turiaf and Raivio time for some odd reason?? All I can say is that I have no problem with Zags other than their mouthing off about being seeded too low. When you play in a CRAP league--and it's CRAP (trust me I made mistake of watching St. Mary's play yesterday and vomited) you shouldn't whine about your plight. Afterall, why not be seeded "low", pull upsets on teams you know you are better than and use that motivation as fuel instead of losing to teams you are supposed to beat?? Few needs to shut up from now on and just worry about his performance on bench as Knight thoroughly outcoached him today and he was very responsible for Zags heading back to Spokane.
As I'm typing, I'm trying to block out the terror and pain from seeing OU-Utah 1st Half. I respect Utah and think they are well coached but I'd rather watch my car rust then them play basketball. Oklahoma always seems to go 10 minutes a game without a hoop and somehow either wins or gets in a position to win. So we'll see if they can go to the well one more time today. That is if I don't wretch too much more from seeing so many easy shots missed and when I say miss that is being kind. Try imangining Boubacar Aw's form with Joey Brown's results and you have someone who looks like Larry Bird compared to these dudes.
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Post by nychoya3 on Mar 19, 2005 17:40:14 GMT -5
Agree on the Zags. I've got all sorts of respect for Mark Few and their success, but they got to start winning some games that matter. It's been 4 years of choking now.
How about Nate Robinson? I hadn't seen much UW this year, but he is pure energy out there. His hops are insane, and he never slows down. I don't care how tall he is, because he plays like a guy a foot taller. Whoever drafts him will be getting an awesome player, along with one of the more entertaining and likable players in the league.
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Post by SFOHoya on Mar 19, 2005 18:20:17 GMT -5
For those in the know of the WCC, would the zags ever consider leaving the WCC?
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Mar 19, 2005 18:20:35 GMT -5
Cinci and Utah have been my sleeper picks since I saw the brackets. Ive got them facing each other in the sweet 16. Don't let me down Cinci!
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 19, 2005 20:11:18 GMT -5
I hate to say this but the Big East has really bombed in the tournament. Pitt, then Syracuse, and now BC (yes, they're still in BE). All the while the ACC is 5-0. What a bummer. Only hope is that UCONN will carry the banner, along with Nova and WVU.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2005 20:18:54 GMT -5
Pretty much have to hope for WVU to beat Wake to salvage the Big East's rep. Otherwise, it has been a poor showing. I do have a problem with the fact that while the ACC is 5-0, their champ got a #1 seed and looked awful versus vastly inferior Delaware St. 'Cuse's reward for winning th Big East was being sent to New England to play Vermont where a similar showing cost them the game.
But hey, at least it was 'Cuse.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 19, 2005 23:23:46 GMT -5
Take that ACC in a direct matchup. WVA showed some heart!
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Post by RDF on Mar 20, 2005 0:22:47 GMT -5
NEVER take Cincy to be a Sleeper team--take them in Round 1 and expect them to do what they did today-- find ways to lose. That game was there for the taking and they really helped Kentucky with some awful shot selection and terrible defensive possessions where guys were shooting layups/dunks. Huggins recruits kids who are physical but from what I've seen they are my pick of the team who is going to be expected to flourish in Big East who fades/takes a step back. Big East is used to physical play and has better coaches and smarter players than CUSA. Get Cincy in a tough game and they self destruct.
As for BC--does Al Skinner ever have a good showing in NCAA's? They play tough, but just lack the guards and even when they had Troy Bell they gagged in 2nd a few years back. Skinner and Prosser will battle for the title of "Give us Respect" and meanwhile they lost to teams that they should've put away after the quick starts.
I think all of the talk of "who's conference is better" has to be taken in account over a period of time--not on a yearly basis. To me, I hate ACC Basketball because nobody plays defense but I respect the talented players and good teams when I see them. What I don't respect is the way their league bows to UNC and Duke. Watching UNC get repeated chances to get back in game against GT in ACC Semis was strictly sickening. They weren't outplaying Tech but Referees were intent on giving them every opportunity. In the Big East, a Providence can rise up and take UConn into OT or a Rutgers can battle Syracuse to a last possession game. In ACC, you better be 20 pts better than Duke or UNC to win by a hoop.
As for the rest of the tournament, I find it interesting that with Seth Davis's proclomation that ACC is "by far proven it's the best", that UConn has a shot to take out NC State and GT has a tough game with future Big East member Louisville. Duke has no picnic either although I think Mississippi State isn't good enough, they are weird enough--and by that I mean Duke has trouble with teams who don't run good offense and are unpredictable. Cincy is type of team who gives Duke trouble--they are physical, athletic and don't run good sets so Dookies can't line up to flop--they have to try and defend. MSU doesn't know what they are doing so Duke won't either, LOL.
And UNC better hope Nova loses because they present them a tough matchup--very Duke-like in that they are a perimeter oriented team and if they can beat UF without a "hot' night, they'll be due to hit from deep. I'd love to see all ACC teams out before Final 4 and if that happens they'll be some "splanin'" to do from Roy, K, Vitale and others. I'm not saying it will happen, but man would I love it!
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 20, 2005 0:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 20, 2005 1:49:20 GMT -5
Hey BC, have fun in the ACC!!! Can't say I'll miss your bacc-stabbing school and team? Try not to get discouraged when you're getting slaughtered in football by FSU and Miami and in basketball by all the Carolina teams.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 20, 2005 2:24:35 GMT -5
The getting slaughtered by the Carolina schools in basketball makes it sound like the ACC is better than the Big East, but whatever.
They already have experience getting slaughtered by Miami in football.
Enjoy that travel budget though and the fact that your school is completely out of place geographically. All the northeastern alums and fans are cut out of games at places like Providence, Connecticut, Syracuse, New York City, New Jersey and Philadelphia.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 20, 2005 9:13:16 GMT -5
I'm still riding high from last night's West Virginia victory. Down here all I hear is how great the ACC is and how bad the Big East is. It was great to watch that WVU game and throw that in some people's face.
For the record, I picked TT and WVU---indeed, yesterday felt very very good.
Villanova needs to win so they can take down UNC. 'Course, I actually picked UNC there, but as my eventually team outta that bracket is UConn, I'll happily take the one-round loss if it means the Big East gets back a little more pride.
And UConn--needs to step it up today and take care of NC State.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 20, 2005 10:41:34 GMT -5
Nice touch in yesterday's BC game: according to the Boston Globe that was the West Virginia band that was serenading them with 'ACC' and 'overrated' chants at the end of the game. Nothing like feeling like being at home!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 20, 2005 13:36:48 GMT -5
Rudy Gay is showing me nothing in the UCONN-NCS game. He was fouled on a fast break, and he didn't he try to make the shot. Another time he and several other UCONNs were battling for the rebound, and they knocked it from each other, and you could see he was upset with the others, instead of applauding their effort.
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Post by reformation on Mar 20, 2005 14:21:26 GMT -5
Big East is getting destroyed. Seems like the ultimate Basketball conf hype is premature--unfortunately
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 20, 2005 18:48:23 GMT -5
The Big East may not have the marquee teams in, but it's going to be well represented:
With three games to play, here's the regional teams by conference:
Big 10: 3 (New) Big East: 3 ACC: 3 Big 12: 2 Pac-10: 2 SEC: 1 Mountain West: 1 Horizon: 1
If anyone was destroyed in this bracket, it was the SEC.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 21, 2005 17:40:08 GMT -5
The Big East may not have the marquee teams in, but it's going to be well represented: With three games to play, here's the regional teams by conference: Big 10: 3 (New) Big East: 3 ACC: 3 Big 12: 2 Pac-10: 2 SEC: 1 Mountain West: 1 Horizon: 1 If anyone was destroyed in this bracket, it was the SEC. The BE has been mostly horrible in this year's NCAAs. No one is using the performance of the "new" BE to justify how good the conference will be next year - that is a given. Rather, we hoped this year's BE teams (which includes BC and excludes L'ville) would perform well to justify arguments that the 2004-2005 BE was the strongest conference.
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