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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 25, 2012 23:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Nov 25, 2012 23:57:47 GMT -5
Without reading it I could have told you it was Hollis and Vee. Jerelle is actually from where I live and I was a freshman in high school when he was a senior at Fauquier. It was really cool seeing a local kid go to play for my Hoyas although I never knew why III recruited him haha. Never seemed like a Georgetown caliber player to me.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 26, 2012 0:50:12 GMT -5
Yeah, it was the offense, Jerelle. Uh-huh.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 26, 2012 0:53:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know the back story to why Hollis was unhappy @ G'town?
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Post by whatmaroon on Nov 26, 2012 2:07:26 GMT -5
Early in the season, he's playing 82% of the time and using 28% of possessions (though only 22% of shots). It's hard to see him doing that at Georgetown. I'm sure he has the December 8 game in mind.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Nov 26, 2012 7:59:12 GMT -5
Good for him! I am glad that he is happier now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 8:05:33 GMT -5
I think that it is important to look at transfers from the player's perpective. Benimon and Vee were never going to get a lot of minutes here at Georgetown. Both he and Vee are florishing in other much smaller programs. We shouldn't really be angry with them. Even if you look at River's situation it is easier to understand. To play in the backcourt for JT3, you have to be able to shoot the 3. Rivers couldn't. So he went to Indiana where he started at point guard for his last two seasons. I am sure that he was much happier. Hollis Thompson is more of an enigma. He has never said anything publicly. However, now that he has signed a 3 year contract with the Thunder, I bet he is looking back at his time here and realizing that he learned a lot of new skills which have translated over to the NBA.
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Post by tjm62 on Nov 26, 2012 8:15:34 GMT -5
One of the things we've learned about JTIII is that he doesn't risk losing games by going with players that aren't ready or aren't able to contribute. His playing minutes are a meritocracy, and considering that there's a clear drop-off of performance after 7 or 8 players on the team, it's unsurprising that some of these players, many of whom were quite successful in high school, would become disillusioned. I imagine this is true at a lot of schools, though. The scapegoating of the offense needs to stop, though -- JTIII has shown that he is capable of modifying and improving it. If people are unable to handle/pass/shoot the ball well, they won't play even if they could theoretically play under a run-and-gun system. But I, for one, am sure glad we have the consistency produced by JTIII's habits, rather than Villanova's 'take whatever shot you feel like' approach that absolutely crumbles as soon as you don't have killer shooters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 8:23:45 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more
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Post by rosslynhoya on Nov 26, 2012 9:45:07 GMT -5
He complains about his minutes "dropping" from his freshman to sophomore year, without any explanation of why he had so many minutes in the first place. Mmhmm.
I expect all transfers to rag on their previous program a little, and I expect a campus paper to do everything imaginable to play up the drama. Either way, this is a pretty tame interview.
Also, not that I would write a sociological report based solely on players' Twittering, but I often got the sense that Hollis, Vee, and Jerrelle never enmeshed fully with the Austin/Chris/Greg/Jason/Hank social group. It's clearly a chicken-or-egg situation, but it may explain in part how we lost an entire class of recruits. Compare with the Bowen situation today, where he's stuck with his team despite what must be incredibly disappointing playing time.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 26, 2012 9:48:29 GMT -5
I think you are essentially saying the same thing, but Vee and Benimon surely would have gotten a lot of minutes last year and this year. They just didnt feel like waiting. That's fine. I would love to have them, but I would rather have coach and his system more. That being said, it is certainly the case that freshman and sophomores can play a lot of minutes for us. They just have to be good...and good at what coach wants them to be good at.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 26, 2012 10:38:12 GMT -5
Part of the playing time equation is luck, too. Vee Sanford came in (and knew coming in) that Chris Wright, Austin Freeman, and Jason Clark would be ahead of him for 2-3 years. Anybody with familiarity with John Thompson III's coaching style would have known that Sanford's playing time would be limited. In contrast, look at D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera. He is coming into the program at a time when the guards are not very deep, so he'll likely get a lot more time going forward than Sanford ever got (he may also be more skilled, but that's another story).
As far as Benimon, I would argue that he got more playing time than his talent warranted, but we really had no better options in that era. It's totally fair that he wanted to leave though - students transfer for academic reasons all the time (wrong fit, student doesn't mesh well socially, etc.), so it makes sense it would happen in basketball too.
I wish Benimon and Sanford the best, though. It's always good to see former Hoyas succeed, even if they are elsewhere.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Nov 26, 2012 11:14:26 GMT -5
Vee wouldve gotten minutes last year and this year, but Benimon would have still probably gotten less than he did freshman year. As bad as Nate looked last year he would've still had the edge. I just dont think Benimon was talented enough at the time. He was a poor man's Chris Braswell (I wish he had qualified). That said, I wish him the best and I'm glad he's doing well. We are about to destroy him in a few weeks.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 26, 2012 13:36:14 GMT -5
Hollis Thompson is more of an enigma. He has never said anything publicly. However, now that he has signed a 3 year contract with the Thunder, I bet he is looking back at his time here and realizing that he learned a lot of new skills which have translated over to the NBA. You mean the NBDL. |
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 26, 2012 13:38:01 GMT -5
We shouldn't really be angry with them. Even if you look at River's situation it is easier to understand. To play in the backcourt for JT3, you have to be able to shoot the 3. Rivers couldn't. So he went to Indiana where he started at point guard for his last two seasons. I am sure that he was much happier. . Rivers was horrible at IU too. The fans hated him there. |
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 26, 2012 13:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Nov 26, 2012 13:43:03 GMT -5
Hollis Thompson is more of an enigma. He has never said anything publicly. However, now that he has signed a 3 year contract with the Thunder, I bet he is looking back at his time here and realizing that he learned a lot of new skills which have translated over to the NBA. You mean the NBDL. Which is part of the National Basketball Association. |
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Post by Boz on Nov 26, 2012 13:45:15 GMT -5
How can I be mad at Benimon? I barely remember Benimon! Actually, I was a pretty big defender of his...while he was here. I thought he would have improved and been a pretty good utility player by this year. But, like elvado, most of the time when players transfer (unless there are extenuating circumstances), they pretty much become dead to me. Except David Edwards. God, I wish he had stayed. Loved that little guy!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -5
www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/07/hollis-thompson-signs-three-year-contract-with-thunder/by Rodger Bohn / @rodgerbohn Former Georgetown swingman Hollis Thompson has agreed to a three-year contract with the Oklahoma City Thunder. The deal is partially guaranteed with team option for the second and third years. Thompson will not play in the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas while still rehabbing a groin injury that was the primary reason he went undrafted last month’s Draft. Arguably the top shooter in the ’12 class, Thompson brings the Thunder another lanky player who is able to stretch the defense. While watching him train at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas, we saw him shoot 44-50 during one stretch from the NBA three-point line and routinely 80 percent from beyond the line. Shooting over 43 percent from deep in each of his three years at Georgetown, he’ll provide a viable shooting threat to an Oklahoma City team that ranked 11th in the NBA last season in team three-point percentage.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 26, 2012 13:54:12 GMT -5
www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/07/hollis-thompson-signs-three-year-contract-with-thunder/by Rodger Bohn / @rodgerbohn Former Georgetown swingman Hollis Thompson has agreed to a three-year contract with the Oklahoma City Thunder. The deal is partially guaranteed with team option for the second and third years. Thompson will not play in the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas while still rehabbing a groin injury that was the primary reason he went undrafted last month’s Draft. Arguably the top shooter in the ’12 class, Thompson brings the Thunder another lanky player who is able to stretch the defense. While watching him train at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas, we saw him shoot 44-50 during one stretch from the NBA three-point line and routinely 80 percent from beyond the line. Shooting over 43 percent from deep in each of his three years at Georgetown, he’ll provide a viable shooting threat to an Oklahoma City team that ranked 11th in the NBA last season in team three-point percentage. Welcome to the 21st century. Google is your friend. |
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