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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 27, 2012 14:49:34 GMT -5
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Aug 27, 2012 14:56:46 GMT -5
Big big loss. Really hurts. Best of luck to Coach Milt, he did a fantastic job while he was here. Go Hoyas!
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 27, 2012 23:21:29 GMT -5
I've only had a couple of interactions with Chris, all through his wife, a former coworker. Even in those few moments, he struck me as being a really good guy and a Georgetown alum (B'02) we can all be proud of.
All the very best wishes to him and Colleen (a double Hoya and former GU runner herself) in Palo Alto. If we're really lucky, we'll be able to entice him back to the Hilltop whenever Mr. Henner decides to call it a career.
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Post by quickplay on Aug 28, 2012 8:47:49 GMT -5
I at least hope Gtown threw everything they could at him to make him stay. This is a bad loss.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 28, 2012 10:03:01 GMT -5
I at least hope Gtown threw everything they could at him to make him stay. This is a bad loss. I'm not sure what they could have thrown him--Stanford is the gold standard in intercollegiate sports, from their $400 million athletics endowment to having named chairs for its coaching positions to the facilities that Georgetown has no wherewithal to match. I'm not sure of the internal reaction to Bernard Muir hiring someone away from GU, but regardless, Stanford is a great opportunity for any coach. It's been 16 years since the last on-campus track meet and over ten since the track was removed from the top of Yates for safety issues, not to return. Georgetown still competes at a high level in the sport. At some point, something's got to give, however, and that's what keep coaches up at night; or, in the case of Ron Helmer before him, he ran out of patience and took a better offer elsewhere. For those readers unaware of the trials and tribulations to run a nationally prominent track team with the barest of essentials, the 2006 Washington Post article below is a reminder of what the team still faces. Simply put, he won't have to deal with this at Stanford. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501725.html
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 28, 2012 11:02:41 GMT -5
I've only had a couple of interactions with Chris, all through his wife, a former coworker. Even in those few moments, he struck me as being a really good guy and a Georgetown alum (B'02) we can all be proud of. All the very best wishes to him and Colleen (a double Hoya and former GU runner herself) in Palo Alto. If we're really lucky, we'll be able to entice him back to the Hilltop whenever Mr. Henner decides to call it a career. Ditto. I saw the writing on the wall, when Colleen resigned from the admissions office a few months ago. I was hoping against hope that he would stay, but, as DFW says, Stanford is a charmed position.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 28, 2012 11:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by quickplay on Aug 28, 2012 14:05:20 GMT -5
I at least hope Gtown threw everything they could at him to make him stay. This is a bad loss. I'm not sure what they could have thrown him--Stanford is the gold standard in intercollegiate sports, from their $400 million athletics endowment to having named chairs for its coaching positions to the facilities that Georgetown has no wherewithal to match. I'm not sure of the internal reaction to Bernard Muir hiring someone away from GU, but regardless, Stanford is a great opportunity for any coach. It's been 16 years since the last on-campus track meet and over ten since the track was removed from the top of Yates for safety issues, not to return. Georgetown still competes at a high level in the sport. At some point, something's got to give, however, and that's what keep coaches up at night; or, in the case of Ron Helmer before him, he ran out of patience and took a better offer elsewhere. For those readers unaware of the trials and tribulations to run a nationally prominent track team with the barest of essentials, the 2006 Washington Post article below is a reminder of what the team still faces. Simply put, he won't have to deal with this at Stanford. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501725.htmlYou hit the nail on the head. Ultimately, I guess it would be tough to promise him improvements; he ran for us so he knows the reality of the track team. When I was recruited around 10 years ago, there were promises promises promises. My freshman year promises promises promises. And so on. They just wait for the class they made promises to to graduate and then make promises to the next incoming class. The off-campus track isn't bad, but you're never going to compete at a high level without dedicated facilities. Further, they've made no effort to get serious in the field events. The coaches have done a great job with the resources they have, but I don't see much improving in the near future.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 28, 2012 15:27:48 GMT -5
The facilities issue has always been the elephant in the room for the past X years. I probably saw one of the last track meets on campus (you could even see the track from the air coming into Reagan). They did have some great LJ'ers and hammerthrowers (incidentally Kevin McMahon was throw coach at Stanford for a while, so the GU-Stanford pipeline has been open for a while). Now that is all gone, and without those field events, I don't think the Hoyas are ever going to win a BE outdoor championship. They are more competitive indoors, because indoors is stacked towards the middle distances.
I would be interested in what promises were made when you were recruited, quickplay.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Aug 28, 2012 15:36:08 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of Muir poaching some of our top guys. But at the same time, can you blame him? Stanford has a great track and field complex on campus that I've had the privilege to have run on back in high school. While not like Hayward Field in Oregon (another track I've been able to run on), it hosts some pretty big-time events. And, well, that's all I really have to say about that.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Aug 28, 2012 18:33:55 GMT -5
We have to take the good with the bad. We got our soccer coach Brian Wiese in part because Muir knew him from Notre Dame.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 28, 2012 19:20:52 GMT -5
Usually, several Hoya runners make the trip out to Stanford for at least one of their invitational meets a year. It will have added interest during the outdoor season in 2013.
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Post by reformation on Aug 28, 2012 22:06:22 GMT -5
Very bad news certainly--not sure what we could have done other than give him Henner's job.(young star coach like Milt under a so-so head coach who is not old/going anywhere is bound to get picked off) We lucked out with Miltenburg as coach and hopefully we'll get lucky again, though I guess there's a pretty big risk that the women's team will decline as the men's team has done under Henner. I would suspect that we also run the risk of a bunch of transfers if we do not get a very good replacement for Miltenburg.
Maybe we'll get someone who trained under gags like Miltenburg. Also he was obviously a great recruiter for Gtwn + Columbia before Gtwn. We will need someone who can recruit as well as coach. Milt was recruiting pretty well against Stanford, now that job will be even harder. Given a team loaded with top recruits I would think we could get somebody pretty good--timing might be pretty difficult though.
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Post by reformation on Aug 30, 2012 0:01:36 GMT -5
Saw a post on letsrun that claimed that former Gtwn runner Mike Smith was offered the job--have no idea if true--or typical idle speculation/misinformation
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 30, 2012 11:37:23 GMT -5
Saw a post on letsrun that claimed that former Gtwn runner Mike Smith was offered the job--have no idea if true--or typical idle speculation/misinformation Interesting. He was a distance runner; I also think he transferred into GU.
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Post by birdman on Aug 30, 2012 14:40:49 GMT -5
Saw a post on letsrun that claimed that former Gtwn runner Mike Smith was offered the job--have no idea if true--or typical idle speculation/misinformation Interesting. He was a distance runner; I also think he transferred into GU. Came from JMU with Henner. Roomed with Milt for a year.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 30, 2012 16:03:48 GMT -5
Interesting. He was a distance runner; I also think he transferred into GU. Came from JMU with Henner. Roomed with Milt for a year. Thanks.
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Post by reformation on Sept 6, 2012 16:25:54 GMT -5
Letsrun post claims that Mike Smith has already met with the team and will show up at Gtwn in 10 days. let's hope he's good, can keep the team together, and recruit as well as Miltenburg did.
for what its worth the chatboards say good things about him, though he is certainly untested in a position like this.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 7, 2012 11:33:42 GMT -5
Well, let's hope something rubbed off on him, when he roomed with Milt. If he truly is the choice, let us welcome him with open arms. He will probably work well with Coach Henner considering the JMU-GU connection.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 7, 2012 16:36:24 GMT -5
Now they are saying it is Brian Gully.
EDIT: we think it might be a hoax.
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