IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Dec 30, 2012 19:13:33 GMT -5
Taking early verbals from a player with a limited ceiling is not smart scholarship management.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Dec 30, 2012 19:29:15 GMT -5
Watched him play last night, they got blown out by O’Connell in the second half. Trimble was the best player on the floor. They face guarded Reggie the whole game and switched on every screen, he’s not a great athlete so he struggled to get free and finished with 15. Still do not know what position he can defend at the next level, foot speed is not an attribute. Offensively his shot is compact, quick, and he repeats the motion over and over again. Made a couple deep 3’s, struggles when he has to put it on the floor, has little lift, and didn’t do much on the glass at all.. Meh. His scholly never made any sense. Maybe after we secured a big. But definitely not right after Domingo.
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hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on Dec 30, 2012 19:38:04 GMT -5
No doubt, lock first rounder. Not worried.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 30, 2012 19:46:30 GMT -5
You say this like an insult, but role players are really important. Not everyone needs to be the star. If everyone tried to be, the team wouldnt be that good.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 30, 2012 19:47:11 GMT -5
Watched him play last night, they got blown out by O’Connell in the second half. Trimble was the best player on the floor. They face guarded Reggie the whole game and switched on every screen, he’s not a great athlete so he struggled to get free and finished with 15. Still do not know what position he can defend at the next level, foot speed is not an attribute. Offensively his shot is compact, quick, and he repeats the motion over and over again. Made a couple deep 3’s, struggles when he has to put it on the floor, has little lift, and didn’t do much on the glass at all.. With the way the longer Hoyas can play zone defense, why should we care so much about what position he will defend? Cameron will be another cog in the zone and if he can bust an opposing zone or open up the middle, his job is done.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Dec 30, 2012 19:58:19 GMT -5
You're acting like there aren't other players who are long who we could have recruited. And Cameron won't defend any position, because he's not a good defender.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Dec 30, 2012 20:50:19 GMT -5
You say this like an insult, but role players are really important. Not everyone needs to be the star. If everyone tried to be, the team wouldnt be that good. I'm saying you should aim higher with your recruits, especially the first kid you get in a class after taking essentially the same kid in Domingo right before.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Dec 30, 2012 21:05:48 GMT -5
concur.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Dec 30, 2012 21:20:41 GMT -5
Cameron will be very solid for us.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Dec 30, 2012 21:23:10 GMT -5
Will be a Paul Pierce type.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Dec 30, 2012 21:46:29 GMT -5
Will be a Paul Pierce type. Bahahahahahah.
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Dec 30, 2012 21:58:04 GMT -5
You're acting like there aren't other players who are long who we could have recruited. And Cameron won't defend any position, because he's not a good defender. Like who?
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Dec 30, 2012 22:16:25 GMT -5
I sure hopes he works out. But I thought he is a kid you wait on until you see what else shakes out.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Dec 30, 2012 22:46:20 GMT -5
Coaches thought he filled a need so they took him.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 30, 2012 22:50:14 GMT -5
I watched the whole game too and I was actually impressed with his ability to put the ball on the floor and create space to get off his jumper on a few occasions and he looks comfortable from NBA range on his deep ball. I watched the game also and I agree with Deacon's views on Cameron's game. Once he learns how to move better without the ball he will be tough. The kid has deep deep range and will be a welcome sight to see in secondary break situations. He'll never be a high level 1 on 1 defender but he doesn't appear lazy or disinterested on defense. Folks say he has a high BB IQ so with hard work I'm sure he can become a good team defender for the staff... As for slow playing kids top 75 kids, I go with the "bird in the hand" philosophy
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 30, 2012 22:55:38 GMT -5
As for slow playing kids top 75 kids, I go with the "bird in the hand" philosophy Agree
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 30, 2012 23:49:48 GMT -5
I sure hopes he works out. But I thought he is a kid you wait on until you see what else shakes out. Our fans see him as that, and I agree with those who point out his areas for improvement (read: shortcomings). But I highly doubt Cameron sees himself that way, or sees Georgetown as a school that you wait for. He allegedly had offers from Cincy, UConn, UF, NC State, Villanova and West Virginia--all high major programs that I consider to be roughly on-level with Georgetown. He also had a bunch of other offers from high majors that were maybe one step down from us, but still respectable--your Oklahoma States, Miamis, Providence, the NJ schools, etc. Maybe not every single one of those offers was commitable, but probably a number of them were. Is Georgetown really a strong enough brand right now that if we slow played him he would sit tight, with all these other offers, and hope we came around with an offer for him later? Kentucky can do that. UNC can do that. I'm not sure Georgetown can right now. Maybe we could if the player's only other offers were mid and low majors (ie. a Vee Sanford situation). But I doubt we can pull it off with a kid who has a more than a dozen other high major offers. I'm not saying I don't see the issues with Cameron--I do, and I share some of the concern voiced, though I hope he will find a nice niche with us. But I don't think the "we should have slow played him" or "we took him too early" stuff makes much sense. He is a consensus 4 star guy, Top 100 recruit at Rivals, ESPN and 247. If we slow played him, we'd lose him and we'd be scraping to find something in spring. It's also not like we took him absurdly early--he committed in late September. Most top 150 types sign in the early period, which is early-mid November. Cameron most likely wanted to sign early too and if he didn't get a full offer from us, he would have committed elsewhere. If we had taken his commitment in the fall of his junior year (ala Brandon Bolden) instead of the fall of his senior year, I could see the argument that we should have waited. But as it is, it was either take him when we did, or lose him.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 30, 2012 23:56:45 GMT -5
When was the last time this staff missed badly on a Top 100 recruit? Yes, some players take time to develop but true misses are few and far between. The Josh Thortons and Omar Wattads are few and far between. Reggie Cameron is not one of those guys.
He's a Top 100 player with good size, a great shot and he fits the offense well. The staff is not infallible, but they have a lot more hits than misses on the evaluation front. Heck, even Jerelle Benimon turned out to be a pretty good player.
If Cameron "only" plays solid D and hits 40% from three, he's a great pickup,
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Dec 31, 2012 11:28:07 GMT -5
Cameron's Hudson Catholic team is currently 2nd in the state behind perennial no. 1 St. Anthony's.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 31, 2012 11:59:25 GMT -5
Is Georgetown really a strong enough brand right now that if we slow played him he would sit tight, with all these other offers, and hope we came around with an offer for him later? Kentucky can do that. UNC can do that. I'm not sure Georgetown can right now. See Semaj Christon
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