RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Sept 26, 2012 17:20:32 GMT -5
Why would we recruit two players in the same class that play the same position and do the same thing when we have needs elsewhere? It'd make more sense if Cameron could play some 4, but that doesn't sound like it's happening. Yea last time we took 2 SFs in the same class it was a disaster: cuttingdownnets.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/gg01_13303908012.jpgI am not sure what other needs you are talking about. Projected roster for next year is pretty evenly distributed: PG: Starks (sr), Trawick (jr) SG: Whittington (jr), Smith-Rivera (so) SF: Domingo (so), Cameron (fr), Bowen (sr) PF: Lubick (sr), Hopkins (jr) C: Ayegba (sr/jr), Hayes (so), Bolden (so) And a number of those guys can play multiple positions. There aren't any gaping holes anywhere. Re: Defensive concerns, the truth is that having a big center who can block shots cures a lot of defensive woes. On our best teams in recent years ('06-'08) our perimeter guys were not especially quick or defense-oriented (Wallace, Summers, Freeman, etc.) but they had Roy behind them planted in the paint. A 7' or bigger center manning the paint can block or alter a lot of shots from penetrators--and perhaps more importantly, dissuades guards and perimeter guys from even trying to drive. All of this is why I think the importance of Hayes' development can't be understated. I am cautiously optimistic about his future, and think the staff is too. He has the tools to be an excellent defensive center, and if that's how it turns out a lot of the defensive weaknesses of our perimeter guys are greatly mitigated. Cameron also enables us to continue the "interchangeable parts" style of defense we employed pretty successfully last year, as yet another long wing. As far as the rest of the class, I think we'll stay active with everybody we've been on, but I don't see us taking another commitment until spring when we more or less know for certain whether or not another roster spot is open. Hopefully some of these guys are willing to wait for us, or they wait for other reasons which keeps us in the hunt. I don't know much about the guy Mostella but I'd be pretty happy with Brandon Austin or Tim Quarterman as a combo guard, and of course guys like Meeks, Williams etc. too (although Agau was the guy I really liked). |
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Ottomatic
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Post by Ottomatic on Sept 26, 2012 17:30:08 GMT -5
Could be a transfer, and although I was pretty sure TA was cleared to play, he might not be after all.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Sept 26, 2012 17:41:16 GMT -5
Could be a transfer, and although I was pretty sure TA was cleared to play, he might not be after all. Aside from the obvious other reasons, I hope that Cameron is not taking Adams' spot on the roster. We don't have enough bigs to trade a 4/5 for a 2/3 |
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gujake
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Post by gujake on Sept 26, 2012 18:26:28 GMT -5
All of this is why I think the importance of Hayes' development can't be understated. I am cautiously optimistic about his future, and think the staff is too. He has the tools to be an excellent defensive center, and if that's how it turns out a lot of the defensive weaknesses of our perimeter guys are greatly mitigated. +1. I think Hayes is extremely important. If he's the real deal, then we'll have a tall defense with a 7 foot center in the middle. Even with some weak individual defenders at the guards and wings, we'll still be able to play good team defense just by being tall and having a big center to man the paint and clean things up. If Hayes doesn't pan out, though, we'll need to shift some people up a position in the projected roster and the lineup won't be as tall anymore. And we'll still have some weak individual defenders and no true big man to protect the paint. Not a good mix. The offense is going to be really fun to watch. |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Sept 26, 2012 19:46:41 GMT -5
Yeah, interesting to understand what remaining 2013 targets we have, if any. With Cameron, we are already banking on 1 player scheduled to receive a scholarship next year not receiving a scholarship next year. Interesting development. I would have thought we'd go big with Meeks. Maybe Moses and Bradley and Mikael are really impressing the staff... Dont forget about Bolden. He is raw, but he showed some real aggressiveness with the sheer amount of dunks he had in kenner. Thats a big positive in my mind. When is the last time we had a big consistently dunk the ball? |
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Post by deacon on Sept 26, 2012 19:49:00 GMT -5
I'd take Mostella and call it a day.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Sept 26, 2012 21:23:12 GMT -5
they'll be two more ships. We'll get our big and combo guard.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Sept 27, 2012 7:58:08 GMT -5
Thats a big positive in my mind. When is the last time we had a big consistently dunk the ball?[/quote]
I never understood the hard on for dunking around these parts.. As long the ball goes through the rim, then I am good. It's still 2 points either way.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Sept 27, 2012 9:15:54 GMT -5
Thats a big positive in my mind. When is the last time we had a big consistently dunk the ball? I never understood the hard on for dunking around these parts.. As long the ball goes through the rim, then I am good. It's still 2 points either way. [/quote] Its an aggressive mindset. Its different when you're talking about a guard or wing dunking the ball attacking the rim then a 6'10 center catching the ball under the hoop (pick and roll or a rebound) and going up strong off the vert to dunk. How many times did Greg miss bunnies under the basket? How many times last year alone did Henry go up under the basket soft to simply miss or have his shot blocked/altered? Too many times for my taste. Dunking takes away a lot of room for error. If you have an athletic big that can do that alone he can do some serious damage. Some bigs make it into the league only because they possess that quality or because it was one of their strengths. Quincy Acy and Joey Dorsey pop out in my mind as two bigs that were limited skill-wise, but made a living in the paint by being tough and aggressive. |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Sept 27, 2012 9:20:41 GMT -5
Andre Drummond even fits that bill. Dunking can also be a good momentum shifter and it getes your teammates hyped if its a good one.
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Post by TC on Sept 27, 2012 10:01:53 GMT -5
Its an aggressive mindset. Its different when you're talking about a guard or wing dunking the ball attacking the rim then a 6'10 center catching the ball under the hoop (pick and roll or a rebound) and going up strong off the vert to dunk. How many times did Greg miss bunnies under the basket? How many times last year alone did Henry go up under the basket soft to simply miss or have his shot blocked/altered? Too many times for my taste. Dunking takes away a lot of room for error. If you have an athletic big that can do that alone he can do some serious damage. Some bigs make it into the league only because they possess that quality or because it was one of their strengths. Quincy Acy and Joey Dorsey pop out in my mind as two bigs that were limited skill-wise, but made a living in the paint by being tough and aggressive. I read this post in a Kenny Powers voice and it made a lot more sense. |
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Post by Problem of Dog on Sept 27, 2012 14:45:36 GMT -5
they'll be two more ships. We'll get our big and combo guard. Who would the combo guard be? Peters? Think he's going elsewhere. Hart? Think that's almost done with too. A big would make a lot of sense here, so would a pure PG (i.e. someone who is a STRONG ballhandler, not just a capable ballhandler). |
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Post by Ottomatic on Sept 27, 2012 17:03:57 GMT -5
Personally, i'm confident with Jabril at the point for 2 years
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Sept 27, 2012 18:33:36 GMT -5
Personally, i'm confident with Jabril at the point for 2 years Yeah, as a backup. Behind Markel and DSR for as long as theyre on the team. |
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Post by idhoya on Sept 27, 2012 18:55:51 GMT -5
DSR shares the wheel in 2012-13. I think DSR gets the keys in 2014
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 28, 2012 9:44:18 GMT -5
I love that Roy and Jeff both called Reggie to welcome him to Gtown.
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Post by RDF on Sept 28, 2012 10:41:40 GMT -5
I love that Roy and Jeff both called Reggie to welcome him to Gtown. That better not have happened because that's a recruiting violation. |
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Post by Problem of Dog on Sept 28, 2012 10:48:16 GMT -5
Personally, i'm confident with Jabril at the point for 2 years As our primary ballhandler? Not at all. Same goes for DSR. |
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 28, 2012 10:51:37 GMT -5
Is that right? The rules seem to say that, but I've seen other alums of schools do that all the time to new signees.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 28, 2012 10:51:42 GMT -5
I love that Roy and Jeff both called Reggie to welcome him to Gtown. That better not have happened because that's a recruiting violation. How so? |
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