tonyparker
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Post by tonyparker on May 10, 2012 0:22:27 GMT -5
Latin American ball player based out of TX. Apparently has 5 star talent, easily. Sounds like Georgetown was leading...until Kirby left. Hard to say where we stand now.
If we lose Pollard and Trocha due to Kirby leaving...this is worse than Cox's departure.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on May 10, 2012 0:38:33 GMT -5
Were we really in the lead for him? People calling him a sure fire pro ....and compare his game to L'Marcus Aldridge/Perry Jones III.
Think he is a '13 kid though.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2012 1:31:56 GMT -5
Georgetown was looking at him but to say they were leading is beyond a complete stretch. He's recently decided to try and re-classify to '12 class. Kirby was on him as he was all of the Texas kids.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 10, 2012 9:57:57 GMT -5
RDF -- do you like his game?
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RDF
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2012 10:24:34 GMT -5
RDF -- do you like his game? Never seen him play and most haven't-he's from Colombia and only came to states late this year. There are clips up--but originally he was compared to LaMarcus Aldridge and now people who have seen his workouts are saying he's more of a SF. So who knows? Has big rep so several schools went to check him out--but not sure of real interest from anyone. |
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 10, 2012 10:33:46 GMT -5
Ok cool. Thanks...
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Post by dreamhoya on May 10, 2012 10:40:41 GMT -5
Although we don't know how good Trocha is, Kirby's proving to be missed...
"According to premium information from several different sites, new LSU assistant Robert Kirby has reached out to mystery post player Tony Trocha of Colombia, who he was recruiting at Georgetown.
The 6-10, 210 center was supposed to be a member of the 2013 class, but is reportedly a good student and is making a move to the 2012 class. He recently took the ACT and is awaiting word on his score. He has been compared to Anthony Davis. "
(FROM LSU recruiting board)
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Post by HometownHoya on May 10, 2012 10:53:56 GMT -5
So is he a SF/a LaMarcus Aldridge PF, or an Anthony Davis C?
I don't think anyone thought that losing Kirby wouldn't hurt, the key is getting someone else in there ASAP.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on May 10, 2012 10:59:34 GMT -5
Georgetown was looking at him but to say they were leading is beyond a complete stretch. He's recently decided to try and re-classify to '12 class. Kirby was on him as he was all of the Texas kids. Dude, seriously... are you an assistant coach or scout or something? I just dont see how you can make so many statements with such certainty. "beyond a complete stretch"? Like how would you know what the kid was thinking better than anyone else? Unless you have a personal relationship with the dude's family, or unless you are a GU coach, I just don't understand how you know anything about the specifics of the situation. |
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 10, 2012 11:03:54 GMT -5
Even so, if you read between the lines, it doesn't appear that GU was leading with him. Kentucky, Baylor, Providence, etc. were all looking at him as well....
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Post by hoyas big supporter on May 10, 2012 11:40:10 GMT -5
Even so, if you read between the lines, it doesn't appear that GU was leading with him. Kentucky, Baylor, Providence, etc. were all looking at him as well.... does that also tell you that it was "beyond a complete stretch?" Didnt think so, thats my point. |
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Post by chep3 on May 10, 2012 11:48:57 GMT -5
Isn't the burden of proof on the person saying that we were leading, rather than the person saying we're not leading? If you read RDF's comments, he's not saying we have no shot at him, just that we weren't leading.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on May 10, 2012 12:20:40 GMT -5
Isn't the burden of proof on the person saying that we were leading, rather than the person saying we're not leading? If you read RDF's comments, he's not saying we have no shot at him, just that we weren't leading. He's not only saying that we're not leading (which we're not, by all accounts), but he is also saying that us being in the lead would be completely absurd. My question is, what makes him figure that? Does he know the specifics of a personal recruiting relationship? or is it just speculation? or just poor wording? |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on May 10, 2012 12:22:39 GMT -5
Additionally, the OP said "sounds like" we were leading before Kirby left. RDf, on the other hand, is more direct and seems to have other knowledge.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 10, 2012 12:25:21 GMT -5
Perspective's an anomaly... Does it tell us he wasn't a complete stretch? Know what made him a stretch? Noel. ...Polard....
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Post by hoyas big supporter on May 10, 2012 12:26:12 GMT -5
...and I'd also put my money on him going to/seriously considering LSU. There has been smoke blowing for them since Kirby got there. That, alone, should indicate the level of involvement we had before Kirby left, just sayin.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2012 13:16:46 GMT -5
Georgetown was looking at him but to say they were leading is beyond a complete stretch. He's recently decided to try and re-classify to '12 class. Kirby was on him as he was all of the Texas kids. Dude, seriously... are you an assistant coach or scout or something? I just dont see how you can make so many statements with such certainty. "beyond a complete stretch"? Like how would you know what the kid was thinking better than anyone else? Unless you have a personal relationship with the dude's family, or unless you are a GU coach, I just don't understand how you know anything about the specifics of the situation. The benefits of going to events is that you get to talk with College, AAU, HS coaches, players and their parents, Nike people, and Media people. When that happens, a lot can be discussed and when you ask about things--it's amazing how people like to talk and pass along info. Now does that mean they are right? No--but when several people all say same things about certain recruits, then you tend to believe that. If Trocha shows up in a Hoya uniform next season, then great, but I'd not expect for that to be the case based on what everyone who talked about him was saying. And the reason he was brought up--following Houston Hoops-that was team he was rumored to be suiting up for in AAU ball and people asked about him/where he was--as they did with several other kids who were listed on EYBL rosters but didn't show-like Akoy Agou who was listed as All Iowa Attack but didn't show. Tony Trocha info that Tony Parker referenced is very similar to what Ron Briscoe wrote about Trocha re-classifying/Kirby's interest--never did he say Georgetown was leading for him--Briscoe said Kirby was recruiting him for Georgetown. A "stretch" to say that Hoyas were leading because that wasn't true. Kirby's chances of landing him increased significantly by going to LSU and it makes sense why Kirby was watching the Houston Hoops team like a hawk at event--because LSU has better chance for several reasons of recruiting the Houston area then Georgetown. |
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on May 10, 2012 14:57:06 GMT -5
if we were going against Baylor $ and Kentucky $ I could have already told you this was a big dissapointment waiting to happen. AND that's before I read he's from Colombia.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 10, 2012 15:37:11 GMT -5
Dude, seriously... are you an assistant coach or scout or something? I just dont see how you can make so many statements with such certainty. "beyond a complete stretch"? Like how would you know what the kid was thinking better than anyone else? Unless you have a personal relationship with the dude's family, or unless you are a GU coach, I just don't understand how you know anything about the specifics of the situation. The benefits of going to events is that you get to talk with College, AAU, HS coaches, players and their parents, Nike people, and Media people. When that happens, a lot can be discussed and when you ask about things--it's amazing how people like to talk and pass along info. Now does that mean they are right? No--but when several people all say same things about certain recruits, then you tend to believe that. If Trocha shows up in a Hoya uniform next season, then great, but I'd not expect for that to be the case based on what everyone who talked about him was saying. And the reason he was brought up--following Houston Hoops-that was team he was rumored to be suiting up for in AAU ball and people asked about him/where he was--as they did with several other kids who were listed on EYBL rosters but didn't show-like Akoy Agou who was listed as All Iowa Attack but didn't show. Tony Trocha info that Tony Parker referenced is very similar to what Ron Briscoe wrote about Trocha re-classifying/Kirby's interest--never did he say Georgetown was leading for him--Briscoe said Kirby was recruiting him for Georgetown. A "stretch" to say that Hoyas were leading because that wasn't true. Kirby's chances of landing him increased significantly by going to LSU and it makes sense why Kirby was watching the Houston Hoops team like a hawk at event--because LSU has better chance for several reasons of recruiting the Houston area then Georgetown. I'd ignore it, RDF. This is the same recruiting genius who said Kethan Savage was an infinitely better player than Josh Hart. |
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on May 10, 2012 16:14:25 GMT -5
Is OJ looking for him?
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