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Post by dense on Jan 8, 2015 4:09:43 GMT -5
Err....I wouldn't say Govan is necessarily less scoring ability. He has a deadly back to the basket game plus he is comfortable shooting from the top of the key and in. He has way more weapons in the toolshed offensively than Josh. Govan may have more weapons in the toolshed, but Josh has a few high-powered weapons (size, girth, strength, touch around the hoop) that in my opinion outweigh Govan's admittedly impressive skills. Phrased differently, I find it very hard to imagine Govan dominating games to the extend that Josh has at certain points this season (think Kansas). Hard to compare someone who is a 5th year senior to a high school senior. I like Govan's upside. The way I project him he will be that in the same age but even next year his ability to help space us will make us more offensively efficent. People will have to guard him out to 17feet.
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Post by sweetness on Jan 8, 2015 7:19:26 GMT -5
To me this is just an ideal addition. I watched some video of Agau from high school - he seems like a nice combo of strength/athleticism/basketball skills. I remember really wanting him a few years ago.
He's also benefitted from almost 2 years of practicing against Harrell and company and practicing with Pitino (although he's been hurt). Great news all around.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 8, 2015 10:40:01 GMT -5
Seems like a solid pickup, and he qualifies as THE DOOD no one was expecting!!!!
Welcome, dood!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 8, 2015 10:42:16 GMT -5
Very solid addition that fits the team's needs for next season and the future. Good work by the coaching staff.
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Post by daymondmyles on Jan 8, 2015 10:55:00 GMT -5
If you ever wanted to see what a cross between Moses and Jeff would look like, you might finally have your answer. My guess is his production will be somewhere in between which would be fine with me.
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Post by matersammich on Jan 8, 2015 11:11:12 GMT -5
Seems like a solid pickup, and he qualifies as THE DOOD no one was expecting!!!! Welcome, dood! Lol! The Dood appears! We still have a few open scholarships, if we can find a few more doods like Akoy we'll be in good shape. He seems like a great addition to the team.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Jan 8, 2015 11:46:44 GMT -5
I'm hopeful Akoy can give us Julian Vaughn type production. Julian didn't play much his sophmore season after transferring from FSU but he was solid as an upperclassman.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 11:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Jan 8, 2015 12:02:01 GMT -5
Very happy about this.
That being said...WE NEED HIGH LEVEL GUARDS!!!!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2015 12:09:12 GMT -5
Govan may have more weapons in the toolshed, but Josh has a few high-powered weapons (size, girth, strength, touch around the hoop) that in my opinion outweigh Govan's admittedly impressive skills. Phrased differently, I find it very hard to imagine Govan dominating games to the extend that Josh has at certain points this season (think Kansas). Hard to compare someone who is a 5th year senior to a high school senior. I like Govan's upside. The way I project him he will be that in the same age but even next year his ability to help space us will make us more offensively efficent. People will have to guard him out to 17feet. Not sure that Jessie will be ready for big minutes next year, may be a little bit of a project. Of course we may have to throw him into the pool anyway and let him flounder a little.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 8, 2015 12:41:35 GMT -5
Very happy about this. That being said...WE NEED HIGH LEVEL GUARDS!!!! This is so true and I think III is finally coming around to this reality. He has lways wanted good guards but I had the impression that he did not view having a high level PG as a necessity. I think he said many times that the forwards in his system were the distributors so a high level PG was not a necessity or similar words to that effect.. Hopefully Hardnett or Bracey will be added to the fold before the year is out.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 8, 2015 12:54:03 GMT -5
Non-hoya friends I had at Marquette games one observation, "Gtown doesn't really have a point guard on the roster", I pointed to Campbell but agreed on the upperclassmen. They then said, That is a tourney killer. Agreed again. The roster is coming together but is still a component or two away. Next year with the development of Campbell, I'll assume we are better at Guard but then void of a true 5 who is ready to go. Hoping it will be Hayes and don't think you can rely on a frosh.
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Post by daymondmyles on Jan 8, 2015 13:07:38 GMT -5
Kentucky doesn't have high level guards and they're doing just fine. Kidding, sort of. But the Harrisons have been pretty awful this year IMO.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 8, 2015 13:13:57 GMT -5
If you ever wanted to see what a cross between Moses and Jeff would look like, you might finally have your answer. My guess is his production will be somewhere in between which would be fine with me. I don't know about this Day.. Kinda like seeing a cross between Halle Berry & Rosie O'donnell... As ridiculous as Halle is, Rosie is gonna yank her down a lot.. LOL I'd prefer to see a cross between Nate & Jeff or even Hopkins & Jeff..
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Post by deacon on Jan 8, 2015 13:25:41 GMT -5
Kentucky doesn't have high level guards and they're doing just fine. Kidding, sort of. But the Harrisons have been pretty awful this year IMO. They can be as awful as they wanna be and it doesn't matter one bit when their backups - Ulis and Booker - are actually better than them. Insane to have depth like that.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 8, 2015 13:46:17 GMT -5
Non-hoya friends I had at Marquette games one observation, "Gtown doesn't really have a point guard on the roster", I pointed to Campbell but agreed on the upperclassmen. They then said, That is a tourney killer. Agreed again. The roster is coming together but is still a component or two away. Next year with the development of Campbell, I'll assume we are better at Guard but then void of a true 5 who is ready to go. Hoping it will be Hayes and don't think you can rely on a frosh. Jon Wallace wasn't any more of a PG than DSR (less of one, really, in terms of distribution).
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 8, 2015 13:52:41 GMT -5
SF, people hated Jon Wallace while he was here and couldn't wait for the more athletic guy to come in. When we signed Wright, hoyatalkers instantly had him pegged as the starter. My point is when our O bogs down like it did against Marquette, no one will penetrate and pass. Maybe LJ could be that guy but it was painful to watch. DSR definitely isn't the guy to breakdown off the dribble and when Bowen/Jabril get going, they typically aren't passing and are just taking a flyer at the rim.
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Post by dense on Jan 8, 2015 15:03:31 GMT -5
Hard to compare someone who is a 5th year senior to a high school senior. I like Govan's upside. The way I project him he will be that in the same age but even next year his ability to help space us will make us more offensively efficent. People will have to guard him out to 17feet. Not sure that Jessie will be ready for big minutes next year, may be a little bit of a project. Of course we may have to throw him into the pool anyway and let him flounder a little. I think other than Yaboy I have seen the most full games of him. He can play at this level not concerned about that. He won't come in and dominate but he will be able to be a credible threat on the floor. I think the biggest thing is that in the EYBL as well as high school he is able to produce being double and triple teamed. He moves well for his size and is a decent passer.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 8, 2015 15:46:26 GMT -5
SF, people hated Jon Wallace while he was here and couldn't wait for the more athletic guy to come in. When we signed Wright, hoyatalkers instantly had him pegged as the starter. My point is when our O bogs down like it did against Marquette, no one will penetrate and pass. Maybe LJ could be that guy but it was painful to watch. DSR definitely isn't the guy to breakdown off the dribble and when Bowen/Jabril get going, they typically aren't passing and are just taking a flyer at the rim. So point being people were wrong that a real point guard meant better March success? I think SF's point was that our best and only success in March have come with teams without a point guard.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 8, 2015 16:13:36 GMT -5
I got off track but I think using the Wallace example, everyone was always waiting on the next guy. We had success with Wallace and both he and Sapp could be primary ballhandlers on that '07 team whether you deemed them to be Pg's or not. So I think that is needed in March. Wright/Starks were ballhandlers but injuries (wright/freeman) and Otto's worst performance as a hoya doomed those post season efforts. I think you have to have a couple of ballhandlers on each team and right now we have guys that can handle it but are not primary ballhandlers (those in the rotation every game that is so excludes Tre). Why is this being discussed in the Agau thread, I have no idea.
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