Past 5 Years Comparison

[bmartin]

Offensive and Defensive comparison of the past five seasons:
(Raw, not adjusted)

Offensive Efficiency, All games & Big East only
2008 111.5 All; 105.1 BE
2009 106.4 All; 101.4 BE
2010 110.4 All; 109.2 BE (Great BE O)
2011 107.4 All; 102.6 BE
2012 106.3 All; 102.1 BE

Defensive Efficiency, All & Big East
2008 92.7 All; 93.4 BE (2nd in BE)
2009 97.3 All; 102.9 BE
2010 98.5 All; 103.8 BE
2011 101.7 All; 103.7 BE
2012 92.1 All; 94.3 BE (2nd in BE)
(Great D in 2008 & 2012; Bad D in between)

Raw Tempo
2008 62.1 All; 62.5 BE
2009 64.2 All; 63.6 BE
2010 66.8 All; 66.4 BE
2011 65.0 All; 63.0 BE
2012 63.5 All; 62.9 BE
(D correlated to pace more than O?)

Offensive Effective FG%; 3P%; 2P% (All Games)
2008 56.8; 38.4; 56.3 (4th in nation EFG%; 2nd in 2P%)
2009 53.0; 33.2; 54.8 (7th in 2P%)
2010 55.7; 38.7; 54.7 (5th in EFG% & 2P%)
2011 54.1; 35.4; 54.6 (5th in 2P%)
2012 51.4; 34.4; 51.3 (Nothing special)

Defensive EFG%; 3P%; 2P% (All games)
2008 42.0; 29.9; 40.5 (1st; 4th; 3rd in nation)
2009 45.9; 32.1; 44.7
2010 47.4; 33.5; 46.0
2011 46.8; 33.7; 45.3
2012 43.1; 27.7; 43.9 (4th in EFG%; 1st in 3P%)

Offensive Rebounding %, All Games & Big East only
2008 33.8 All; 32.3 BE
2009 33.5 All; 34.0 BE
2010 32.6 All; 30.3 BE (Very Bad)
2011 33.4 All; 32.5 BE
2012 35.1 All; 36.0 BE (Good)

Opponents OR%, All & Big East
2008 32.8 All; 33.7 BE
2009 36.2 All; 36.7 BE (Very Bad)
2010 32.1 All; 33.2 BE
2011 32.3 All; 34.9 BE
2012 30.3 All; 30.7 BE (1st in BE)

What these number show more than anything is that the 2012 team was the opposite of the 2010 team. 2010 had great offense, but poor defense and rebounding; 2012 had great defense and rebounding, but very average offense.

[hoyasaxa2003]

The 2011-2012 team was possibly John Thompson III's worst offensive team, but very possibly his best defensive team - certainly the best defensive team since the 2007/2008. I think the key moving forward is to continue the strong defense, while getting back to the higher offensive efficiency we have seen in previous years. If we can package the two together, I think we will have an extremely good team in the next few years.

[Boz]

Yup. Those are numbers all right.

And lots of 'em!

;D


(I am really not making fun of you, bmartin, more making fun of me and my utter lack of a left brain. I'm pretty sure alcohol has totally decimated that hemisphere for me)

[superan]

Interesting that this past year was pretty close to 2008 except for Jonathan Wallace's amazing shooting ability being on 2008 and Otto Porter's amazing rebounding on 2012.

[FrazierFanatic]

Mar 28, 2012 11:04:00 GMT -5 Boz said:

Yup. Those are numbers all right.

And lots of 'em!

;D


(I am really not making fun of you, bmartin, more making fun of me and my utter lack of a left brain. I'm pretty sure alcohol has totally decimated that hemisphere for me)

I'm with you, Boz - I look at all of those figures and my head starts to spin like John Nash in "A Beautiful Mind". Still, I do not regret one drop of my history with alcohol.

[TBird41]

Mar 28, 2012 12:46:32 GMT -5 superan said:

Interesting that this past year was pretty close to 2008 except for Jonathan Wallace's amazing shooting ability being on 2008 and Otto Porter's amazing rebounding on 2012.

Wallace was 71-159 on 3FG (44.7%) in 2008.

Hollis was 53-135 on 3FG (43%) in 2012.

Roy had an offensive rating of 119.1 in 2008, driven mostly by his post game (so teams tended to double team him)

Henry had an offensive rating of 101.5 in 2012, w/ a large part of that being his ability to pass (so teams tended not to double team him)

The difference offensively wasn't that this year's team didn't have anyone with Wallace's ability to hit 3 pointers. It was that this year's team didn't have a center/post player with Roy's ability.

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You're definitely right about rebounding although you aren't giving enough credit:

In 2008 Roy was obviously a great rebounder (11.0 OREB% / 17.0 DREB%), but he didn't get much help. Look at the PF/SF rotation that year: Summers (4.9 OREB%/ 17.3 DREB%), PE2 (8.9 OREB% / 13.7 DREB%) and Austin Freeman at forward (0.9 OREB% / 8.7 DREB%).

This year, Henry was a very good rebounder (8.6 OREB% / 17.6 DREB%)**, and he got a lot of help from his forwards: Otto (8.8 OREB% / 18.3 DREB%), Lubick (7.8 OREB% / 13.8 DREB%) and Hollis (5.4 OREB% / 15.4 DREB%).

**Think having Henry would have made the difference against NC State? You're probably right! Hopkins had an 8.3 DREB% this year, roughly half of Henry's and approximately the same as a freshman Austin Freeman. And now I've ruined my own day. Ugh.

[superan]

Great points, I forgot just how effective Hibbert was in the post.