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Post by rosslynhoya on Mar 14, 2012 19:27:24 GMT -5
I worked in the House for 20 years. The proper hearing protocol is for the majority to pick most of the witnesses but let the minority pick one or two. It isn't a legitimate dialogue or debate or anything but a political stunt if all the witnesses have the exact same talking points favorable to the Chairman and majority party's point of view. It's more like the traditions of the Politburo than the US Congress. You're aware then that Fluke has never actually testified at an actual Congressional hearing, right? She performed at a publicity stunt, a mockup of a congressional hearing, e.g., you might recall footage of Nancy holding the gavel throughout and with no GOP members present, that was staged by the Dems held several days after the real panel that provoked all the silliness about not having enough women invited on the panel. "Potemkin" -- those Soviets had a word for everything.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 14, 2012 22:03:47 GMT -5
Read the succeeding posts. I explained it. Issa should have let her testify in the hearing. The majority is not supposed to pick all the witnesses.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 14, 2012 23:23:11 GMT -5
Really? REALLY? I assume someone who went to Georgetown could come up with something better than that. Sometimes people post things on the Internet that are intended to be over-the-top and trollish in order to elicit a response. Call it a moment of weakness. I am certain you have committed similar sins in the past. What you should be doing right now where you live is trying to go to as many concerts as you can over the next week. Whether or not you need contraception while doing so, I leave that up to you. ;D Brief thread diversion: I'm a big fan of Titus. Aside from being awesome, there's also a Georgetown connection. One of their guitar player's sisters was class of '07 and is my fiance. (Yes, I try to not-so-subtly mention that as often as possible. It boosts my cred, and also slips in the fact that there's actually a female out there willing to associate with me.)
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 15, 2012 5:01:25 GMT -5
So we agree this is political and wouldn't make news if it weren't for Rush? What is the point? Georgetown is not great at administrative things. Wake me up when that changes...expectation never.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 15, 2012 9:34:23 GMT -5
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Post by Buckets on Mar 15, 2012 10:45:57 GMT -5
But I absolutely can. Tell you what. As opposed to taking a snapshot RIGHT NOW AT THIS EXACT MOMENT and extrapolating that to the entire election season, let's give this some time. Over the next several months, there are bound to be numerous polls asking people what are the most important issues in this election. If this issue consistently ranks in the top 3-5, I will issue an abject apology to you any anyone else who wants one. If, as I suspect, this issue will struggle to maintain top 5-10 status and will poll regularly in the single digits, then you can refer to me as "Lord and Master" from here on out. What do you say? EDIT: Sorry, I think I misread you. I think you were saying it is important even if it is not an important election issue. That's probably true...for some people. But since I was discussing this originally in terms of the election, I'm referring to it in that context. This depends on how narrowly you define this issue. This fits into the broader narrative that mostly male legislatures do not understand women's issues. Austin backed off his "says the person without a uterus" comment, but your governor needed a public outcry to figure out that women don't like things being involuntarily shoved into their vagina. And he's a GOP VP candidate! This issue will likely fade, but I would be willing to bet that if he gets the nod, that more broadly defined issue is brought up repeatedly as a wedge issue.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 15, 2012 10:54:37 GMT -5
But I absolutely can. Tell you what. As opposed to taking a snapshot RIGHT NOW AT THIS EXACT MOMENT and extrapolating that to the entire election season, let's give this some time. Over the next several months, there are bound to be numerous polls asking people what are the most important issues in this election. If this issue consistently ranks in the top 3-5, I will issue an abject apology to you any anyone else who wants one. If, as I suspect, this issue will struggle to maintain top 5-10 status and will poll regularly in the single digits, then you can refer to me as "Lord and Master" from here on out. What do you say? EDIT: Sorry, I think I misread you. I think you were saying it is important even if it is not an important election issue. That's probably true...for some people. But since I was discussing this originally in terms of the election, I'm referring to it in that context. This depends on how narrowly you define this issue. This fits into the broader narrative that mostly male legislatures do not understand women's issues. Austin backed off his "says the person without a uterus" comment, but your governor needed a public outcry to figure out that women don't like things being involuntarily shoved into their vagina. And he's a GOP VP candidate! This issue will likely fade, but I would be willing to bet that if he gets the nod, that more broadly defined issue is brought up repeatedly as a wedge issue. Obama is a male. Therefore he doesn't understand women's issues. How did he come to push this contraception coverage? Or is it only GOP men who fail to understand women's issues?
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Post by quickplay on Mar 15, 2012 11:16:22 GMT -5
This depends on how narrowly you define this issue. This fits into the broader narrative that mostly male legislatures do not understand women's issues. Austin backed off his "says the person without a uterus" comment, but your governor needed a public outcry to figure out that women don't like things being involuntarily shoved into their vagina. And he's a GOP VP candidate! This issue will likely fade, but I would be willing to bet that if he gets the nod, that more broadly defined issue is brought up repeatedly as a wedge issue. Obama is a male. Therefore he doesn't understand women's issues. How did he come to push this contraception coverage? Or is it only GOP men who fail to understand women's issues? I know you're just being snarky but does it not concern you how far apart the current Republican Party and most women are when it comes to these issues?
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Post by kchoya on Mar 15, 2012 11:43:31 GMT -5
Obama is a male. Therefore he doesn't understand women's issues. How did he come to push this contraception coverage? Or is it only GOP men who fail to understand women's issues? I know you're just being snarky but does it not concern you how far apart the current Republican Party and most women are when it comes to these issues? No. And I don't agree with your assumption either.
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Post by quickplay on Mar 15, 2012 12:05:45 GMT -5
I know you're just being snarky but does it not concern you how far apart the current Republican Party and most women are when it comes to these issues? No. And I don't agree with your assumption either. Well then good luck fighting battles that alienate a majority of women and people under the age of 35. If you're going to go out for the sake of fundamentalism, may as well go out swinging.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 15, 2012 12:23:35 GMT -5
No. And I don't agree with your assumption either. Well then good luck fighting battles that alienate a majority of women and people under the age of 35. If you're going to go out for the sake of fundamentalism, may as well go out swinging. You're right. You're the first person to ever predict the demise of the GOP (or the democrats) based on a single issue (or tiny subset of issues).
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Post by bmartin on Mar 15, 2012 12:25:14 GMT -5
Please read the NEJM article. There is no excuse for un/misinformed comments at this point. 28 states already require coverage of contraceptive prescriptions without a big carve out exemption. The HHS policy came from an expert panel, not the President's campaign. It copied the language of NY and California laws that have already survived legal challenges. It is responsible public policy that does not infringe on religious liberty in any way.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 15, 2012 12:36:03 GMT -5
Please read the NEJM article. There is no excuse for un/misinformed comments at this point. 28 states already require coverage of contraceptive prescriptions without a big carve out exemption. The HHS policy came from an expert panel, not the President's campaign. It copied the language of NY and California laws that have already survived legal challenges. It is responsible public policy that does not infringe on religious liberty in any way. I'm glad you're so authoritative and all-knowing, but simply because a person has a position different than yours does not make that person uninformed.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 15, 2012 12:36:31 GMT -5
Read the succeeding posts. I explained it. Issa should have let her testify in the hearing. The majority is not supposed to pick all the witnesses. The majority didn't pick all the witnesses.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 15, 2012 14:35:34 GMT -5
Please read the NEJM article. There is no excuse for un/misinformed comments at this point. 28 states already require coverage of contraceptive prescriptions without a big carve out exemption. The HHS policy came from an expert panel, not the President's campaign. It copied the language of NY and California laws that have already survived legal challenges. It is responsible public policy that does not infringe on religious liberty in any way. None of the state mandates apply to institutions that self insure. So all of them have a carve out. There really is no excuse for un/misinformed comments at this point. Also, expert panels are only as unpolitical as the people choosing their members.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 15, 2012 21:42:37 GMT -5
That is not because self-insuring is special. It is just that it is not regulated by individual states so a multi state company doesn't have to deal with differing states' rules.
Self-insurers just hire a third party insurance administrator to negotiate with providers and handle claims rather than buying a state regulated insurance policy. There is nothing about self insurers that merit any special exemptions. It just means the weak federal regulation of insurance is necessary for ERISA plans.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 15, 2012 21:48:39 GMT -5
The majority did not allow the minority to designate Sandra Fluke as its preferred witness. The Chairman wanted to tell the minority who it's witness could be. That is not letting the minority have its witness. The minority wanted a health witness but the Chairman did not want to acknowledge that insurance regulation has anything to do with health care.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Apr 3, 2012 14:49:54 GMT -5
This is not on point, but I just want to point out some of the deficiencies of student health insurance that I pay $2000/year for, as this is a prime example of how Georgetown treats their female students' healthcare needs.
As a female, I'm trying to get the HPV vaccine to prevent cervical cancer. This vaccine is recommended for all females age 15-26.
To get the prescription, I had to schedule an appointment at the student health center. Doctor spent a total of 3 minutes writing the prescription (although they made me wait for 30 minutes and I missed a bunch of class). The doctor on Mondays doesn't give injections of this recommended shot, so I had to make another appointment to get it injected. Total cost: $10.
Then I had to go to the pharmacy to get it filled. The student health insurance doesn't cover it, but will reimburse me up to $135. The total cost was $187 on my credit card.
Now I have to go back to student health another time to get the injection. So that will be another $10.
Oh, and I have to repeat this process 2 more times, for a grand total of $216 for a vaccine that is recommended for all females.
My friend just got this done at her student health center at her law school. 100% covered. My sister got it done at her university. 100% covered. Other friends have gotten this vaccine through their insurance. 100% covered. Georgetown? Over $200 for one vaccine that could potentially save my life.
And when one needs birth control for a medical issue that could negatively effect ones life? Forms after forms calls to doctors, faxes from doctors. And even then they dispute the "real reason" that one needs it. This is not just a one-off story. This is a story I've heard multiple times from my peers.
It's just not right.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 3, 2012 16:08:47 GMT -5
This is not on point, but I just want to point out some of the deficiencies of student health insurance that I pay $2000/year for, as this is a prime example of how Georgetown treats their female students' healthcare needs. As a female, I'm trying to get the HPV vaccine to prevent cervical cancer. This vaccine is recommended for all females age 15-26. To get the prescription, I had to schedule an appointment at the student health center. Doctor spent a total of 3 minutes writing the prescription (although they made me wait for 30 minutes and I missed a bunch of class). The doctor on Mondays doesn't give injections of this recommended shot, so I had to make another appointment to get it injected. Total cost: $10. Then I had to go to the pharmacy to get it filled. The student health insurance doesn't cover it, but will reimburse me up to $135. The total cost was $187 on my credit card. Now I have to go back to student health another time to get the injection. So that will be another $10. Oh, and I have to repeat this process 2 more times, for a grand total of $216 for a vaccine that is recommended for all females. My friend just got this done at her student health center at her law school. 100% covered. My sister got it done at her university. 100% covered. Other friends have gotten this vaccine through their insurance. 100% covered. Georgetown? Over $200 for one vaccine that could potentially save my life. And when one needs birth control for a medical issue that could negatively effect ones life? Forms after forms calls to doctors, faxes from doctors. And even then they dispute the "real reason" that one needs it. This is not just a one-off story. This is a story I've heard multiple times from my peers. It's just not right. Why should insurance cover that?
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Apr 3, 2012 16:55:44 GMT -5
So I don't get cancer.
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