thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 21, 2012 17:34:16 GMT -5
www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022112aaa.html"Georgetown University Head Football Coach Kevin Kelly announced that Vinny Marino will join the Hoyas coaching staff for the 2012 season as the team's offensive coordinator. Marino brings 20 years of coaching experience, having last served as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at Columbia University for six seasons." Welcome aboard coach.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 21, 2012 19:46:33 GMT -5
www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022112aaa.html"Georgetown University Head Football Coach Kevin Kelly announced that Vinny Marino will join the Hoyas coaching staff for the 2012 season as the team's offensive coordinator. Marino brings 20 years of coaching experience, having last served as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at Columbia University for six seasons." Welcome aboard coach. A true offensive juggernaut and cradle of quarterbacks, that Columbia University. At least he should feel pretty comfortable in the program for a number of reasons. |
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Post by hoyaparents on Feb 22, 2012 19:11:23 GMT -5
Hey, Problem of Dog, do you ever have anything positive to say?
Let's give the new coach the opportunity to show what he can do?
All assistants at our level are "interim" coaches. We are just the stepping stone to the next, better opportunity. It's better that we catch a young , talented guy on his way up, than a journeyman on the down side of the slope. We had that experience several years back.
Welcome Coach.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 22, 2012 20:14:19 GMT -5
Hey, Problem of Dog, do you ever have anything positive to say? Let's give the new coach the opportunity to show what he can do? All assistants at our level are "interim" coaches. We are just the stepping stone to the next, better opportunity. It's better that we catch a young , talented guy on his way up, than a journeyman on the down side of the slope. We had that experience several years back. Welcome Coach. Did you read his bio? |
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Ro
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Post by Ro on Feb 22, 2012 23:04:15 GMT -5
Who were you expecting, Charlie Weis or Urban Meyer? I don't have the energy to look at posts back when we hired Patenaude, but something tells me you likely made some real rosy postings about that hire as well. He turned out okay. Let's give Marino a chance to do his job and reserve any judgement or snide remarks until we see what he gets our guys to do on the field. The guy probably hasn't even gotten settled into his new home in DC or had a player meeting and already you are ripping him a new one.
I can fully understand yours (and most people's) various frustration's with the program and the University's support of it, but at least ease up on the complaints and criticisms until there is actually something to complain about. Negative speculation before any results-driven evaluation is a very unfair way to treat an incoming hire from a peer institution.
Welcome to Coach Marino. Good luck leading our boys.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 23, 2012 0:11:48 GMT -5
Who were you expecting, Charlie Weis or Urban Meyer? I don't have the energy to look at posts back when we hired Patenaude, but something tells me you likely made some real rosy postings about that hire as well. He turned out okay. Let's give Marino a chance to do his job and reserve any judgement or snide remarks until we see what he gets our guys to do on the field. The guy probably hasn't even gotten settled into his new home in DC or had a player meeting and already you are ripping him a new one. I can fully understand yours (and most people's) various frustration's with the program and the University's support of it, but at least ease up on the complaints and criticisms until there is actually something to complain about. Negative speculation before any results-driven evaluation is a very unfair way to treat an incoming hire from a peer institution. Welcome to Coach Marino. Good luck leading our boys. I don't remember what, if anything, I thought about Patenaude coming in, but I was excited to see Miceli go. He was hopeless. I was mostly pointing out to hoyaparents, one of the truly clueless individuals on this board, that this guy was nothing like the "young up and comer" he was describing. He led a lifeless offense at Columbia with a team that ended up where we're trying to avoid. |
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derhoya
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Post by derhoya on Feb 23, 2012 3:46:36 GMT -5
POD only has been registered with hoyatalk since 4/2011 but his incessant negativity/complaints make it seem like he has been around much longer.
RE the new QB coach. If he's not a Uzelac or a Micelli, we should be ok. We have the horses and are getting the big uglies up front to contend (at least this final year before schollie fball hits the PL).
I'm more excited that Sgarlata is keeping his Texas connection wide open - getting two Euless Trinity dudes? wow. Keep it coming Sgar-little.
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Post by 98hoya on Feb 23, 2012 10:59:35 GMT -5
Hey, Problem of Dog, do you ever have anything positive to say? Let's give the new coach the opportunity to show what he can do? All assistants at our level are "interim" coaches. We are just the stepping stone to the next, better opportunity. It's better that we catch a young , talented guy on his way up, than a journeyman on the down side of the slope. We had that experience several years back. Welcome Coach. Agreed, hoyaparents. Before we jump all over him, let's give the guy a shot and our support. I've been very critical of the administration and coaching in the past and, in truth, there's plenty to be critical of with our program (and a bit to be proud of too). However, choosing to be a pessimist about every single thing that happens with the team just brings people down and serves no benefit. PoD, you do your thing, but I wish you'd run an attitude check on yourself or take it elsewhere. PS - all should be aware of the "ignore" option. At times, it's the only way to filter some of the trolls who populate this sort of message board. |
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Ro
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Post by Ro on Feb 23, 2012 13:15:15 GMT -5
I agree in general that the "ignore" option can be a good one, but I fear that grossly negative posts which aren't at least countered or debated about could leave potential recruits/hires/parents of recruits turned off by what they see on the board and take that attitude as a barometer of our alumni base and student body's feelings.
Message board forums such as this one aren't supposed to be filled with only positive posts, but I'm a firm believer that if you disagree with a negative (or positive for that matter) post you have every right to validly state your position. If the board's overall message is slanted too much either way, those who follow what is said here may get a false impression of what our Universtiy community is really like.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 23, 2012 13:47:34 GMT -5
Hey, Problem of Dog, do you ever have anything positive to say? Let's give the new coach the opportunity to show what he can do? All assistants at our level are "interim" coaches. We are just the stepping stone to the next, better opportunity. It's better that we catch a young , talented guy on his way up, than a journeyman on the down side of the slope. We had that experience several years back. Welcome Coach. Agreed, hoyaparents. Before we jump all over him, let's give the guy a shot and our support. I've been very critical of the administration and coaching in the past and, in truth, there's plenty to be critical of with our program (and a bit to be proud of too). However, choosing to be a pessimist about every single thing that happens with the team just brings people down and serves no benefit. PoD, you do your thing, but I wish you'd run an attitude check on yourself or take it elsewhere. PS - all should be aware of the "ignore" option. At times, it's the only way to filter some of the trolls who populate this sort of message board. This isn't peewee football. Are we not supposed to critique coaching hires because someone's feelings might get hurt? Just another reason Georgetown is far away from being a real football program. We just hired a guy who had been fired from his previous job, where the offense wasn't anything to write home about. Sorry if I'm not all rainbows and sunflowers. |
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Post by 98hoya on Feb 23, 2012 14:06:32 GMT -5
PoD,
Agreed, this isn't peewee football. But the difference between our level and high level D-1 football is that for the Notre Dames and USCs of the world, there are all sorts of message boards for people to participate in and very few participants are connected with the program in any way but their fan-dom. Here, by contrast, nearly everyone is connected with the program in some way or another - former player, family member, recruit, etc. In that way, ya, it's very much like peewee football and you should recognize that, even if you don't like it, this is a forum where nearly everyone has a personal stake (contrast that with the hoops forum - I think wacky criticism is fine there, because it's a bunch of yahoos whose closest connection to the team is that they once had sociology with a guy who was on the squad).
I think it's fair to sometimes critique the team - as I do, as many do - but the whole debbie downer routine just stinks. Especially because, as Ro says, we're not at the level yet where, say, a potential recruit or a parent or a former player, has a lot of options of places to go to talk about a program they want to feel good about and avoid behavior like yours.
Further, if some kid choosing between Lehigh and Georgetown is poking around, he's going to read your crap. And I'm not saying your crap isn't at least in part true, but I am certainly saying that every single opportunity you get, you choose the worst possible facts to bring out and ignore the good ones.
You can not like this situation, you can not like the administration, you can not like the coaching, but if you persist in the whole routine of just being a constant drag, a constant jerk and a constant a-hole, then it's hard for me to believe that your goal is anything but to harm the program given all of the above.
Capice?
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Ro
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Post by Ro on Feb 23, 2012 16:55:01 GMT -5
98 is pretty much dead on in my book. Like it or not, the people on this board are Ambassadors for our program. Recruits and their parents can't open up the latest addition of Lindy's or look to SI's college football preview to know what our program is about.
PoD, don't get me wrong, there are many times I am in agreement with you...but you have to wonder if your commentary in this forum is helping to have a positive impact on change to be made by the University and Athletic Administration or if it is having a negative impact on those not currently associated with the program whom we are trying to attract. The posts in this stream are a perfect example...
We needed an OC and hired one. Our current and incoming players are going to be aware of the hire. We cannot change the current situation. If a prospective recruit isn't sure about coming to the Hilltop, but then sees what you've written it cannot possibly be viewed as a reason to commit to Georgetown.
Your constructive critisisms may be better served as emails or letters to our AD or President. Those may actually be read by decision-makers and help create change as opposed to posts here which could have a negative impact on outsider's views of our University community.
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Feb 27, 2012 17:34:48 GMT -5
Taking a quick break from the flame war, Vinny Marino is a class guy. I have known him and his family for many years. His offense will have to prove itself on the field or not. Until then, give the guy a chance. Good leader and a great role model. We should welcome coaches like this.
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Post by ahoyadad on Feb 28, 2012 8:26:44 GMT -5
www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022112aaa.html"Georgetown University Head Football Coach Kevin Kelly announced that Vinny Marino will join the Hoyas coaching staff for the 2012 season as the team's offensive coordinator. Marino brings 20 years of coaching experience, having last served as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at Columbia University for six seasons." Welcome aboard coach. Did anyone know that 3 other coaches have left/are leaving in addition to Coach P?? OL line: Dunlay, LB: Thompson and WR: Diaz |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 28, 2012 10:43:15 GMT -5
Footballscoop.com reported that Dunlay was going to Colgate, but since neither school has reported it it's not listed on the HoyaSaxa.com football page yet.
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Post by ahoyadad on Feb 28, 2012 13:34:52 GMT -5
and I believe that Thompson is going to Army
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Post by hoyahopeful on Feb 28, 2012 14:05:52 GMT -5
and I believe that Thompson is going to Army If that is true, then both the Academy and Coach Thompson will have done very well. |
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Post by ahoyadad on Feb 28, 2012 15:38:31 GMT -5
agreed
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