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Post by SDHoya on Feb 7, 2012 15:14:12 GMT -5
Love to see the BE add a basketball first school to the mix. That being said, is a 17 team bball conference really a good idea? I guess that was what we were going to do with TCU, and I'd certainly rather have Memphis as 17 than TCU (for bball), but maybe its time to bounce DePaul?
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 7, 2012 15:23:17 GMT -5
Love to see the BE add a basketball first school to the mix. That being said, is a 17 team bball conference really a good idea? I guess that was what we were going to do with TCU, and I'd certainly rather have Memphis as 17 than TCU (for bball), but maybe its time to bounce DePaul? But the Chicago market!!
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Post by boxout05 on Feb 7, 2012 15:48:00 GMT -5
17 team basketball league makes sense. The scheduled is perfectly balanced if you play everyone once and alternate home courts every year. It allows a little more flexibility to schedule OOC and one team feels the shame of not going to the BET, which I like.
The league will likely invite 17 to MSG and add a fifth game on Tuesday.--Admin
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Post by Jack on Feb 7, 2012 15:50:05 GMT -5
Why worry about bouncing Depaul? Is 16 teams really so much better than 17? Is Depaul going to be any worse in basketball than SMU, UCF, or Houston over the next 5 years? Basically now you play every team once, and have two home and homes for TV purposes (rather than 3 as currently configured). It would be great to just lock in Villanova and St. John's as permanent rivalry games, but not sure how much the rest of the conference would like that.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 7, 2012 16:37:07 GMT -5
This also adds the Memphis TV market for what it is worth. That seems to be the selling point the BE is approaching on this upcoming contract. Based on what the ACC got in their deal and recently re-upped, it may not be too hard for the Big East to get money on par with that in which case, why would any of the remaining schools want to leave if the money is similar (and lets be honest, ACC football sucks).
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 7, 2012 16:51:00 GMT -5
I would bet they keep 18 regular season games, playing 2 teams twice rather than 3.
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Post by jgalt on Feb 7, 2012 17:58:11 GMT -5
So when do they announce renaming the conference C-USA+?
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Post by SDHoya on Feb 7, 2012 18:12:09 GMT -5
Why worry about bouncing Depaul? Is 16 teams really so much better than 17? Is Depaul going to be any worse in basketball than SMU, UCF, or Houston over the next 5 years? Basically now you play every team once, and have two home and homes for TV purposes (rather than 3 as currently configured). It would be great to just lock in Villanova and St. John's as permanent rivalry games, but not sure how much the rest of the conference would like that. Maybe 16 is not better than 17, but like you note, we will already be importing crap bball schools in SMU, UCF and Houston. But unfortunately we need those schools for their football programs. What do we need DePaul for? The coveted Rosemont, IL market?
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 7, 2012 18:26:12 GMT -5
While I understand the move from a basketball perspective, As a Boise State football fan, I absolutely hate the Memphis addition/
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 7, 2012 19:45:07 GMT -5
I like this move for Georgetown. I enjoy playing Memphis and it is a program that has tremendous institutional and community support.I do not see UL in the BE long-term, but if anything can get them to stay this addition and a solid TV deal will. From a basketball perspective the BE remains BCS-level. Football? Well, it was never the conference's strong suit.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 7, 2012 19:50:04 GMT -5
DFW, which schools are the ACC Big Four? Aren't there only two first-class citizens in that league?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 20:17:56 GMT -5
Louisville and Memphis would probably be the BE biggest rivalry…Provided they're both good.. Fwiw
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 7, 2012 21:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 7, 2012 21:11:17 GMT -5
3. Football divisions: SDSU, Boise, SMU, Houston, Memphis, and someone else in the west (Louisville?); Navy, Rutg, UConn, USF, UCF, and Cincinnati in the east. If Louisville and Cincinnati do split up, I'd guess that the league goes with one guaranteed cross-divison rivalry game per year, to keep the Keg of Nails game an annual tradition. The divisions could also split into North and South, with Navy, Rutgers, UConn, Cincinnati, Louisville and Boise in the former division, and with USF, UCF, Memphis, SMU, Houston, and SDSU in the latter division. That seems to make more sense to me culturally/geographically, but your proposal seems more likely. It keeps Boise paired with its "western partner" and also allows the northeastern schools to continue to recruit in Florida.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 7, 2012 21:12:39 GMT -5
Louisville and Memphis would probably be the BE biggest rivalry…Provided they're both good.. Fwiw Or, the biggest rivalry could be GU/St. John's, GU/UConn or GU/Nova if both teams are good. GU/Syracuse certainly wasn't a natural rivalry - it's just that both teams were good for an extended period of time, and thus a rivalry was born. You could say that Louisville/Memphis has history on its side, but so does GU/St. John's.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 7, 2012 21:38:59 GMT -5
I like the addition of Memphis. Not many teams fill the booth, but Memphis certainly could and would.
Fwiw, their fanbase travels extremely well....out side of Kansas and Duke, easily had the 3rd strongest showing in Maui....over Tenessee, UCLA, Michigan, etc.
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Post by vcjack on Feb 7, 2012 21:42:05 GMT -5
Memphis is done deal according to a big wig alum of theirs. Do we hold on to WVU still in 2013 with these (pending) additions ? We are trying to hold onto WV for 2012, they want out starting this summer. I think its a done deal that, like a nasty bowel movement, all of the traitors will have passed through the system by 2013. Anyways, I'm happy at the Memphis news. But we got to close the deal
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Post by calhoya on Feb 8, 2012 8:35:27 GMT -5
Finally. Memphis is going to really help maintain the Big East as the premier basketball conference--and unlike BSU and SDSU, it is a regional school coming for all sports.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 8:36:12 GMT -5
Louisville and Memphis would probably be the BE biggest rivalry…Provided they're both good.. Fwiw Or, the biggest rivalry could be GU/St. John's, GU/UConn or GU/Nova if both teams are good. GU/Syracuse certainly wasn't a natural rivalry - it's just that both teams were good for an extended period of time, and thus a rivalry was born. You could say that Louisville/Memphis has history on its side, but so does GU/St. John's. Memphis Ville has about 40 years of tradition, they’re generally both really good, bordering states, and fan bases that aren’t particularily fond of each other. I understand what you’re trying to say but, all things equal right now I think that Memphis Ville is a bigger rivalry game than any we can muster with any team that is going to continue to be in the BE.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Feb 8, 2012 8:43:29 GMT -5
I like the addition of Memphis. Not many teams fill the booth, but Memphis certainly could and would. Fwiw, their fanbase travels extremely well....out side of Kansas and Duke, easily had the 3rd strongest showing in Maui....over Tenessee, UCLA, Michigan, etc. Memphis has played at Verizon a few times and I don't recall any significant presence by Memphis fans at any of the games. More than USF of course but not anywhere near as many as Marquette or Louisville brings.
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