hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jul 6, 2011 16:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jul 6, 2011 17:01:22 GMT -5
Ugh.
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Post by westendhoya on Jul 6, 2011 17:03:30 GMT -5
Must've eaten a lot of rum cake.
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TC
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Post by TC on Jul 6, 2011 17:10:50 GMT -5
Our program has turned into UCONN.
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Post by centercourt400s on Jul 6, 2011 17:57:28 GMT -5
Our program has turned into UCONN. What a awful and trollish thing to say. As far as I know, no hint of any problems or scandals ever occurred while Freeman attended Georgetown. He graduated in May and had no official standing within the program or university at the time of this incident. Can Georgetown be accountable for the actions of its graduates? Hardly... what a dumb comment, TC. Sorry to hear about this from Austin. If proven true it is a terrible thing and I hope Austin learns from it and there are no repeats. From what we've seen of Austin over the years he seems to be smart enough to learn from mistakes. Good luck to him. |
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guru
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Post by guru on Jul 6, 2011 17:58:46 GMT -5
If true, he's an idiot. Plain and simple.
Can't WAIT for the new era of Gtown hoops to begin
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Jul 6, 2011 18:03:08 GMT -5
Truly disappointing. I hope Austin seeks help he needs.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 6, 2011 18:18:42 GMT -5
I blame Broadus.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jul 6, 2011 19:51:47 GMT -5
Our program has turned into UCONN. What a awful and trollish thing to say. As far as I know, no hint of any problems or scandals ever occurred while Freeman attended Georgetown. He graduated in May and had no official standing within the program or university at the time of this incident. Can Georgetown be accountable for the actions of its graduates? Hardly... what a dumb comment, TC. Sorry to hear about this from Austin. If proven true it is a terrible thing and I hope Austin learns from it and there are no repeats. From what we've seen of Austin over the years he seems to be smart enough to learn from mistakes. Good luck to him. When that former Cuse player got banged up a few weeks ago we certainly associated him with Cuse and he was much further removed. We cant have it both ways. Our players, current and former, make bonehead mistakes like ALL other 18-23 year old men. Hate to say it but Austin's long shot to the L just became even longer. |
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 6, 2011 20:20:53 GMT -5
This is extremely foolhardy given his illness. Unbelievable.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 6, 2011 20:41:58 GMT -5
Hate to say it but Austin's long shot to the L just became even longer. I agree with the other part of what you said, but not this. Ron Artest admitted to drinking AT HALF TIME and he has championship rings (not to mention you know fighting fans, but im trying to stay red delicious apples to fijis apples here). If athletes who got DUIs or even spent time in jail never made what ever league they were trying to make, then there would a serious personnel shortage in every major league in this country. His play will determine his future in the sport and it would be hard to argue that his behavior off the court significantly effected it on the court. But this sucks: its embarrassing to the program, but even more so its terrible for Austin. Hopefully he will learn, but it is hard to look at him as the same player again. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 6, 2011 20:53:20 GMT -5
Can't WAIT for the new era of Gtown hoops to begin Amen. |
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jul 6, 2011 20:53:35 GMT -5
Why is it hard to look at him as the same player again?
I know it's awful to put yourself and others in danger when you drink and drive, but most people have driven under the influence at some point in their lives. Not everybody gets caught. I'm not sure how that makes the situation any better.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 6, 2011 20:53:58 GMT -5
First, a DUI is beyond stupid - regardless of what medical conditions one has. Second, diabetes is not an absolute contraindication to moderate alcohol consumption. www.mayoclinic.com/health/alcohol-and-diabetes/MY01138Third, hypoglycemia can cause the exact same symptoms as someone who has had too much to drink. It's not that hard to get in that condition if a diabetic misjudges their insulin dose, takes too much of an oral hypoglycemic medicine, or doesn't eat enough. Jumping to the conclusion that a DUI citation absolutely means the driver was legally drunk ignores that possibility. This will all play out in court. It's irresponsible to jump to conclusions based on a traffic citation filing and "facts" like "a bunch of people told me the guy liked to go to parties a lot" and "I saw him in a bar drinking with friends when he was a college senior at the Final Four." Before people go off the deep end here try to keep some of those things in mind. |
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jul 6, 2011 21:06:17 GMT -5
Hate to say it but Austin's long shot to the L just became even longer. I agree with the other part of what you said, but not this. Ron Artest admitted to drinking AT HALF TIME and he has championship rings (not to mention you know fighting fans, but im trying to stay red delicious apples to fijis apples here). If athletes who got DUIs or even spent time in jail never made what ever league they were trying to make, then there would a serious personnel shortage in every major league in this country. His play will determine his future in the sport and it would be hard to argue that his behavior off the court significantly effected it on the court. But this sucks: its embarrassing to the program, but even more so its terrible for Austin. Hopefully he will learn, but it is hard to look at him as the same player again. Well Ron was not a borderline NBA draft pick, he was actually a fringe lottery talent, went 16th overall in a pretty deep draft class. ON top of that, he didnt get banged up before he was on a roster, to my knowledge. Thus it is a little (a lot) different. So for a fringe guy to make the L, he cannot pose problems to the organization, not from a PR perspective, not in the locker room, not with coaches. So in Austin's case, I stand by the statement that his shot just became longer. |
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ScreamingHoya
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Jul 6, 2011 21:08:01 GMT -5
And here I thought his lack of intensity in games was just a style of play when really he was just drunk.
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emkmd
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Post by emkmd on Jul 6, 2011 21:09:13 GMT -5
Ok then. I actually read the Wash Times article. It said:
"He was cited for driving under the influence of alcohol, used when a driver’s blood alcohol level is .08 percent or higher, .."
The only way to make this charge is to have a breathalyzer test with a reading over 0.08. I am not aware of diabetic ketoacidosis (a condition that occurs whe someones blood sugar was very high) causing a falsely elevated breathalyzer test.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 6, 2011 21:16:20 GMT -5
Ron Artest admitted to drinking AT HALF TIME and he has championship rings (not to mention you know fighting fans, but im trying to stay red delicious apples to fijis apples here). More precisely, Mr. Metta World Peace had one championship ring, which he subsequently auctioned off. More importantly, I don't think anyone can say "I hope X can end up like Ron Artest" with a straight face. |
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 6, 2011 21:41:03 GMT -5
Why is it hard to look at him as the same player again? I know it's awful to put yourself and others in danger when you drink and drive, but most people have driven under the influence at some point in their lives. Not everybody gets caught. I'm not sure how that makes the situation any better. No, most people haven't. Cut out the moral equivalency. Driving drunk is dangerous and kills and paralyzes innocent people. |
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Jul 6, 2011 21:41:37 GMT -5
Our program has turned into UCONN. Last time I checked, we weren't national champions. |
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