SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 14, 2011 14:55:00 GMT -5
Freeman and Clark's poor defense at times had nothing to do with talent level. Does anyone really think Clark couldn't be a great defender with the right intensity and footwork?
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Post by RDF on Jun 14, 2011 15:35:29 GMT -5
Freeman and Clark's poor defense at times had nothing to do with talent level. Does anyone really think Clark couldn't be a great defender with the right intensity and footwork? Clark needs to watch more game film/prep better. He guards opponents the same which means he does little work in studying his opponent. He'll crowd guys who like to drive and they blow by him, he'll be late closing on guys who are shooters, he allows guys to get to their comfort spot on court but he's far from only one--the entire team past few years did this--and not to mention losing their man/area in zone.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 14, 2011 15:36:45 GMT -5
Agree, RDF. Physical tools are important in defending, but there's a lot of mental and skill work as well.
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Post by russodj on Jun 14, 2011 16:00:53 GMT -5
Hasn't it been written that JTIII isn't big on watching game film or developing large scouting reports on other teams? I feel like that was written in an SI/ESPN Magazine article last year.
If that's the case do the critiques you list about Clark partly have to be attributed to the coaching staff?
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 14, 2011 20:42:10 GMT -5
I hope that's not true. That's ok if you have Bill Walton, Keith Wilkes, Lew Alcindor and Lucious Allen on your teams, but not otherwise.
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Post by thejerseytornado on Jun 15, 2011 13:14:43 GMT -5
Hasn't it been written that JTIII isn't big on watching game film or developing large scouting reports on other teams? I feel like that was written in an SI/ESPN Magazine article last year. JT3 isn't big on gameplanning for specific opponents (except, occasionally, 'cuse's zone). He seems to believe that a well-run offense or defense is more important than a perfectly crafted one to each opponent. Considering the limitations on practice time in college, it's a reasonable argument. If, however, that helps explain why the hoyas make some obvious mistakes in terms of how they guard people, it needs to change.
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Post by RDF on Jun 15, 2011 14:59:34 GMT -5
Hasn't it been written that JTIII isn't big on watching game film or developing large scouting reports on other teams? I feel like that was written in an SI/ESPN Magazine article last year. If that's the case do the critiques you list about Clark partly have to be attributed to the coaching staff? If this is the case--it needs to change. It doesn't take long to watch game film, breakdown strenghths/weaknesses, and why have a Video guy if he's not going to cut up film to provide edited look at the upcoming opponents? This "it's about us" stuff is great when you are loaded with talent and can overwhelm an opponent. When that's not the case--you better know what someone is good/not good at or you keep lesser teams in games and put your team in a position to struggle. If video/scouting reports were useless, then why are they used by championship programs in collegiate and professional sports? For a way to pay someone for a worthless job? III must be very "confident" in his ability to breakdown what teams do ingame then.
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jun 15, 2011 15:40:48 GMT -5
[/quote] This "it's about us" stuff is great when you are loaded with talent and can overwhelm an opponent. When that's not the case--you better know what someone is good/not good at or you keep lesser teams in games and put your team in a position to struggle. [/quote]
Sounds a lot like what has been going on the past few years...
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Post by prhoya on Jun 15, 2011 16:25:58 GMT -5
Hasn't it been written that JTIII isn't big on watching game film or developing large scouting reports on other teams? I feel like that was written in an SI/ESPN Magazine article last year. That would be stubborn and arrogant.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 15, 2011 21:58:26 GMT -5
Hasn't it been written that JTIII isn't big on watching game film or developing large scouting reports on other teams? I feel like that was written in an SI/ESPN Magazine article last year. That would be stubborn and arrogant. In a 2008 SI article, JTIII told the writer "we must prepare methodically for each opponent, each possession". Maybe before we start getting all up in arms, we should actually have a vague recollection about "some article" without any actual proof. just sayin'.
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Post by russodj on Jun 15, 2011 23:56:48 GMT -5
That would be stubborn and arrogant. In a 2008 SI article, JTIII told the writer "we must prepare methodically for each opponent, each possession". Maybe before we start getting all up in arms, we should actually have a vague recollection about "some article" without any actual proof. just sayin'. Excerpt from the January 1 edition of ESPN the Mag (article by Jay Bilas) "These days, scouting reports are as diverse as coaches' personalities. Right now, I have 25 in my office, from some of the nation's top programs, and they range from a couple of pages of personnel info to 34 densely packed pages of breakdowns, play calls, defensive instructions and diagrams. Tom Izzo hands out to his Spartans the same 20-page report his coaches pore over. But Coach K gives his Blue Devils a single, two-sided sheet of individual breakdowns, and Geno Auriemma gives the same to his UConn women. And at Georgetown and Tennessee, players don't get even a single scrap of paper." Sorry I didn't post it the first time for you.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jun 16, 2011 7:35:46 GMT -5
Excerpt from the January 1 edition of ESPN the Mag (article by Jay Bilas) "These days, scouting reports are as diverse as coaches' personalities. Right now, I have 25 in my office, from some of the nation's top programs, and they range from a couple of pages of personnel info to 34 densely packed pages of breakdowns, play calls, defensive instructions and diagrams. Tom Izzo hands out to his Spartans the same 20-page report his coaches pore over. But Coach K gives his Blue Devils a single, two-sided sheet of individual breakdowns, and Geno Auriemma gives the same to his UConn women. And at Georgetown and Tennessee, players don't get even a single scrap of paper." Sorry I didn't post it the first time for you. Not even a single scrap of paper? C'mon, since when do Georgetown students do any of their assigned reading? That's why we have such great lecturers! It's far better to use the Socratic method to drill scouting reports into their hearts. With that said, I hope Bernardi's unofficial to our luxurious palace upon the Potomac goes well this weekend and that our coaching staff gets a better sense of his upside.
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Post by RDF on Jun 16, 2011 11:28:54 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with having a guy visit and play pick up--wondering if he didn't get chance last time during his visit and will this time? Anyways--it never hurts to have a guy come to visit.
As for the exerpt from Jay Bilas on Georgetown and scouting reports, that speaks volumes of why I see the same mistakes being repeated. It's also why you need a very good staff---assistants should be able to break down film and form a scouting report.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 16, 2011 12:02:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking/ hoping that it's just an instance of this being miscomunicated. I can't imagine that the coaching staff doesn't break down other teams. Maybe they just give the players video to watch, maybe they just communicate the information orally and don't give them anything on paper to read.
There's no way they're not breaking down film and scouting the other team. What would they be doing all day when they're not in practice if they weren't doing that?
I remember players mentioning several times about watching film and going to film sessions.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 16, 2011 12:20:13 GMT -5
It's a question for that Q&A session before the season...
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jun 16, 2011 13:17:25 GMT -5
all it said is that they don't get a sheet of paper with a report. NOT that they didn't watch film or scout other teams.
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