SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Jan 10, 2011 9:00:25 GMT -5
Are the students going to be back for this one? I think the team could use the extra support. Saturday's game felt a bit like the bad old days when we were almost never home in our own building.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jan 10, 2011 10:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 10, 2011 10:13:49 GMT -5
students gotta bring the noise....lets get back on track in this one...let's go hoyas
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 10, 2011 10:29:05 GMT -5
One of the keys to the match will be how well Brown is guarded. At 6'6", he can hurt us from inside and outside.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2011 10:34:40 GMT -5
Who guards him? Can Jason handle him given what we have seen lately? Is Hollis ready for a defensive challenge like this? Could Nate stay with him? It will be interesting to see what we do. Not sure our zone is quick or long enough against a 6-6 shooter.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Jan 10, 2011 11:07:59 GMT -5
put Moses on him for the first half, it will ruoin evryone's rplans. Moses lasting the firsty half without fouling out is a pipedream.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Jan 10, 2011 12:19:15 GMT -5
I pray that we worked on 2 or 3 sets plays in case pitt causes the princeton O to stall.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2011 12:32:11 GMT -5
put Moses on him for the first half, it will ruoin evryone's rplans. Moses lasting the firsty half without fouling out is a pipedream. Moses guarding at the 3-point line? The mere thought makes me shudder.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2011 12:36:40 GMT -5
I pray that we worked on 2 or 3 sets plays in case pitt causes the princeton O to stall. Do people actually think we don't have set plays? I see them all the time. They are often in the Princeton sets, but they are specific plays nonetheless.
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Post by gburyhoya on Jan 10, 2011 13:08:09 GMT -5
If this team doesn't beat Pitt I will refuse to spend another dime watching them this year. I made the trip to McDonough for the women's game on Saturday and saw each and every one of them walk in with a dejected look. Let's hope they right the ship quick and do something about it.
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damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Jan 10, 2011 13:17:51 GMT -5
I have no clue why I'm saying this (given the way we've played thus far in the Big East), but I think we'll win this one. Again, maybe just too much optimism. Students will be back from the holidays so the crowd will be back (and we know how much better the team plays when the crowd is hyped). Also, athletes are creatures of habit and with school starting back and students back on campus, I have a better feeling about this one (again, not sure why, but I'm hopeful).
Austin breaks out of his slump this game.
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guru
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Post by guru on Jan 10, 2011 13:17:56 GMT -5
Unless an entirely different attitude has been transplanted to this team, this game is a no-hoper. Pitt is gritty, mean and good - and they eat weak-hearted teams and spit them out. They are the JTJr teams of the '80s. If our star player starts slumping his shoulders and making his whiney-face after his first few misses (as he has the last few games); if our purported "team leader" hurls himself wrecking ball style into the lane with no plan of attack whatsoever (as he has the last few games); if our senior "inside presence" commits stupid fouls, throws the ball out of bounds, double bunny hops and gets called for traveling and misses putbacks and layups (as he has the last few games) the score on Wednesday night could be embarrassing.
This team needs a heart check and a complete attitude adjustment. Failing that, they have zero chance of winning right now against a team as good and willful as Pitt.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Jan 10, 2011 13:47:11 GMT -5
Unless an entirely different attitude has been transplanted to this team, this game is a no-hoper. Pitt is gritty, mean and good - and they eat weak-hearted teams and spit them out. They are the JTJr teams of the '80s. If our star player starts slumping his shoulders and making his whiney-face after his first few misses (as he has the last few games); if our purported "team leader" hurls himself wrecking ball style into the lane with no plan of attack whatsoever (as he has the last few games); if our senior "inside presence" commits stupid fouls, throws the ball out of bounds, double bunny hops and gets called for traveling and misses putbacks and layups (as he has the last few games) the score on Wednesday night could be embarrassing. This team needs a heart check and a complete attitude adjustment. Failing that, they have zero chance of winning right now against a team as good and willful as Pitt. They're a team that's beaten Texas by 2 (at MSG), UCONN (at home), Maryland (at MSG), plus Marquette (at home) and Providence (away). They lost to Tennessee (at home). I'm not ready to put Pitt on a pedestal this year. They have played a grand total of ONE true road game (against Providence). They were a very respectable but not dominant 25-9 last year (one loss being to these Hoyas in Pittsburgh where Monroe scored 13 points of course). I'll readily admit the Hoyas' shortcomings, but let's not compare Pitt to the great Hoyas teams of the 1980s please.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2011 14:01:49 GMT -5
Yeah, plus for all the talk, Pitt has been a mostly offense, okay defense team for the last few years. It's been a while since defense was their calling card.
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guru
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Post by guru on Jan 10, 2011 14:02:45 GMT -5
Unless an entirely different attitude has been transplanted to this team, this game is a no-hoper. Pitt is gritty, mean and good - and they eat weak-hearted teams and spit them out. They are the JTJr teams of the '80s. If our star player starts slumping his shoulders and making his whiney-face after his first few misses (as he has the last few games); if our purported "team leader" hurls himself wrecking ball style into the lane with no plan of attack whatsoever (as he has the last few games); if our senior "inside presence" commits stupid fouls, throws the ball out of bounds, double bunny hops and gets called for traveling and misses putbacks and layups (as he has the last few games) the score on Wednesday night could be embarrassing. This team needs a heart check and a complete attitude adjustment. Failing that, they have zero chance of winning right now against a team as good and willful as Pitt. They're a team that's beaten Texas by 2 (at MSG), UCONN (at home), Maryland (at MSG), plus Marquette (at home) and Providence (away). They lost to Tennessee (at home). I'm not ready to put Pitt on a pedestal this year. They have played a grand total of ONE true road game (against Providence). They were a very respectable but not dominant 25-9 last year (one loss being to these Hoyas in Pittsburgh where Monroe scored 13 points of course). I'll readily admit the Hoyas' shortcomings, but let's not compare Pitt to the great Hoyas teams of the 1980s please. I was talking about their attitude when comparing them to the JTJr '80s Hoyas.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 10, 2011 14:33:09 GMT -5
I pray that we worked on 2 or 3 sets plays in case pitt causes the princeton O to stall. Do people actually think we don't have set plays? I see them all the time. They are often in the Princeton sets, but they are specific plays nonetheless. If it fits their agenda, then yes, people think we don't have set plays. But yeah, even as a basketball novice, I see the team run all kinds of set plays. There's the "Wallace" (screen hand off three--See UNC game) and they ran a new alley oop play yesterday (at least it was the first time I saw it) to Henry that worked well, where he was on the far post, went to the elbow as if he was going to the top of the key and then back cut for the alley oop. I'm not sure if Austin was the passer both times, but the play got run a second time w/ Benimon, but Jerelle never cut back to the hoop so the pass went into the stands.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jan 10, 2011 14:51:53 GMT -5
Do people actually think we don't have set plays? I see them all the time. They are often in the Princeton sets, but they are specific plays nonetheless. If it fits their agenda, then yes, people think we don't have set plays. But yeah, even as a basketball novice, I see the team run all kinds of set plays. There's the "Wallace" (screen hand off three--See UNC game) and they ran a new alley oop play yesterday (at least it was the first time I saw it) to Henry that worked well, where he was on the far post, went to the elbow as if he was going to the top of the key and then back cut for the alley oop. I'm not sure if Austin was the passer both times, but the play got run a second time w/ Benimon, but Jerelle never cut back to the hoop so the pass went into the stands. I think the one that worked to Hank was from Nate, but don't make me swear on a stack of Bibles. I thought a couple of times in the first half, "we've figured out how to cut back door and play above the rim?" Then I realized there were 2 WVU fans next to me, 2 in front of me, and when I stood up with under 2 min left (at Markel's urging of the entire crowd), I was asked to sit down from someone three rows behind me. A Hoya fan, or at least some older lady wearing a Hoya shirt. In section 111, for heaven's sake. That's when I gave up hope.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 10, 2011 17:12:35 GMT -5
Way too many fans in the lower bowl are selling their seats. I just don't get it. If you can afford those seats one would think they wouldn't need to sell their seats to opposing fans.
Everyone come out and support the team and watch us take down another top 10 team at Verizon!
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 10, 2011 17:18:07 GMT -5
If you can afford those seats one would think they wouldn't need to sell their seats to opposing fans. I think the more logical conclusion to draw is that some ticket holders can't afford the lower bowl seats without subsidizing the cost by selling some tickets. Or that some (many?) of the season ticket holders are ticket brokers.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 10, 2011 17:41:52 GMT -5
If you can afford those seats one would think they wouldn't need to sell their seats to opposing fans. I think the more logical conclusion to draw is that some ticket holders can't afford the lower bowl seats without subsidizing the cost by selling some tickets. Or that some (many?) of the season ticket holders are ticket brokers. I think the problem is the latter. I'm not sure how you would go about weeding out the seats that belong to brokers (or if that would even be a good thing to do since they are paying for the seats and donating to the HHC), but it's definitely an issue. I'm curious as to how long the wait-list is for season tickets in the lower bowl, if there even is a wait-list. I know CasualHoya had a traitor list for seats that were used by fans of the opposing team, but that was somewhat unreliable (my own seats were on the list and I rarely miss a home game except for holidays). But if you do sit next to or near seats that are being used by opposing fans virtually every home game, you do need to speak up to someone.
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