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Post by thebin on Dec 4, 2010 9:36:12 GMT -5
Hold on...I saw somewhere that Rio currently doesn't have a single World Cup worthy stadium? How are they planning on doing this? By hosting in other cities, its a huge country. But Rio isnt the city in question, sao paulo is....which is even bigger than rio. They had planned to refurbish an existing one, but it looks like financing might have derailed that. The maracana in rio is being refurbished and will be hosting several games.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 4, 2010 11:15:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised Morumbi isn't suitable. The place is certainly big enough.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 4, 2010 16:05:54 GMT -5
I think Morumbi is a dump on the inside. A very large dump, but a dump nonetheless. The same goes for all the other Sao Paulo stadiums. Even the Maracana will have to undergo some pretty big renovations to host the World Cup.
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Post by hoyalaura22 on Dec 5, 2010 4:46:34 GMT -5
In response to the comment about Qatar not having any current facilities capable of hosting a WC game -- They just hosted a friendly between Argentina and Brazil in Khalifa stadium in the Al Waab area, and they will be hosting the Asian Cup this January in their existing stadia. They actually have some very nice stadiums. I moved here 4 months ago from Florida and it's not a bad place to live. Yes, the heat can be oppressive but it is also awful in parts of the States -- Florida and New Orleans. Rest assured Qatar will provide the resources to make this successful.
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 14, 2010 16:35:04 GMT -5
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 14, 2010 18:40:12 GMT -5
Maybe, but since when is it "a very basic human right" for Europeans to have sex while on holiday in Qatar? Will the EU be obliged to provide subsidies now for lower- and middle-class soccer fans to go to World Cup 2022, just so they can engage in their very basic human right? Qatar's across-the-board ill treatment of its own citizens, let alone gay tourists, is certainly ample cause for discussion, but this hysteria the activists are trying to work up here is just nonsense. Talk about defining down the level of suffering in the world.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 14, 2010 19:02:07 GMT -5
Qatar's ill-treatment of its own citizens? Qatar treats its citizens great - better than almost any country on earth. It's the imported South Asian laborers who can never become Qatari citizens who get screwed.
And yes, Blatter is a jacka**. Soccer (like pretty much every other sport) is homophobic. The Pope is Catholic.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 24, 2010 9:59:59 GMT -5
Here's a good article on why Qatar really won: espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5933045/how-qatar-became-player-world-soccerThey set up scouting programs around the world to find top young players who haven't been discovered and bring them to Qatar to play at a world class academy (called Aspire). Instead of trying to go around the local national soccer association, Aspire works closely with them. That's all well and good. But here's the kicker (no pun intended): "But Aspire's motivations to find talent in places such as Guatemala and Thailand are less obvious. Oddly for a soccer talent search of limited scope, Aspire's country selection process seems to place little value on a nation's history of producing international soccer players. Besides producing some average soccer, what Guatemala and Thailand do have in common is representation on the FIFA executive committee." The clever little bastards.....
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Post by The Stig on May 30, 2011 7:52:52 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on May 31, 2011 11:16:52 GMT -5
It should be dragged into it and, if the circumstances call for it, it should be re-opened.
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Post by theexorcist on May 31, 2011 11:33:15 GMT -5
The real scary stuff is that Blatter keeps on saying that FIFA's not in crisis and that it can be resolved "in the family". It's frustrating that no country will go to the mattresses on this - a proposed Congressional investigation would lead to people saying "don't we have more important things to do?". But soccer, especially, is a potential location for international issues (initial exchanges between countries in either a cold or hot war, recognition of nationalities), and for billions of dollars - in stadium construction costs and revenue for clubs. What if a club in Peru is paying off CONMEBOL to get the occasional good call and hosting duties for an international friendly that might go somewhere else?
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Post by rosslynhoya on May 31, 2011 11:59:43 GMT -5
"If I'm guilty of bribery," Bin Hammann added, "then so are the 13 members who accepted my money in exchange for voting the way they were told."
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 31, 2011 12:09:17 GMT -5
"If I'm guilty of bribery," Bin Hammann added, "then so are the 13 members who accepted my money in exchange for voting the way they were told." So we're all in agreement then?
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Post by HometownHoya on May 31, 2011 12:44:30 GMT -5
"If I'm guilty of bribery," Bin Hammann added, "then so are the 13 members who accepted my money in exchange for voting the way they were told." So we're all in agreement then? Seriously, all these scandals are making me start to think of another large international, competition with scandals throughout its history: the Tour de France. FIFA scandals anger me more then the Tour ones because for all the Tour de France scandals through its history, none that I know of are on the same level of many FIFA scandals. On the Tour its typically riders cheating to gain an advantage in some way or another while in FIFA its influential members of their community bribing others to get their way. Yes it is still cheating to gain an advantage but you never see teams owners on the Tour attempting to lobby, maybe say a slightly different course catering to a team made up more of hill climber or sprinters. FIFA is dealing with billions of dollars, the most popular sport in the world, and as exorcist said, even clubs in Peru can buy off international friendlies to make themselves tons of money. I wish FIFA had some type of ethical oversight committee...although im sure they do.
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Post by theexorcist on May 31, 2011 12:58:20 GMT -5
First thing - the Peru club was just a comment by me. No suggestion that anybody in Peru does that or ever has.
The Tour changes its schedule almost every year - I'd be surprised if team lobbying didn't factor into things.
I'm actually more copacetic with doping in cycling than in FIFA. The Tour actually attempts to catch people and usually loses due to an arms race where the science of doping is better than the science of catching it. FIFA just lies. They rig hosting locations based on bets - how do we know that they don't rig matches or the World Cup?
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