The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Nov 25, 2010 12:39:55 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11840828It was bound to happen - Palin makes the most basic mistake in the book and calls North Korea an American ally. Granted, that lone mistake isn't that serious - I doubt an order to bomb South Korea to defend North Korea would get too far down the chain of command without a slight correction, but it does show just how out of it she is as far as international relations. If she doesn't know which side is the bad guy, how on earth can she understand the complexities of the conflict and the basic reasons why every "quick solution" to the conflict is extremely dangerous. I wonder if she'll blame the "gotcha media" for this one. The comment came on Glenn Beck's show.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 25, 2010 13:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 26, 2010 8:49:33 GMT -5
It was bound to happen - Palin makes the most basic mistake in the book and calls North Korea an American ally. The comment came on Glenn Beck's show. Wow! Talk about your Foreign Policy Heavyweights! Must have been a fascinating conversation.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 26, 2010 10:02:44 GMT -5
Gimme a break. Seen in context of her other responses it was merely a slip of the tongue. Of course, because it's Palin and not President Obama's or his VP's slips of the tongue, it's really big news to Stig.
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Post by MassHoya on Nov 26, 2010 10:22:25 GMT -5
Not a Palin supporter at all, but this was obviously a slip of the tongue. These people should get a life.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 26, 2010 12:08:03 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 26, 2010 14:11:45 GMT -5
I think Palin's comments in her Thanksgiving address were right on target - and she used humor to get her points across. If this came out of Saturday Night Live and it was making the usual fun of Sarah, all the libs would be rejoicing. Of course they only have a sense of humor when it's in one direction. When it's libs it's humor but when it's conservatives, it's sarcasm.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 26, 2010 14:25:06 GMT -5
There's a time and place for everything, and 5:47 p.m. on Thanksgiving is not the time to be attacking the President of the United States, who spent part of his day at a soup kitchen giving to the less fortunate. The contrast there could not be better. Any word on the Tea Partiers and whether they worked in inner city soup kitchens yesterday, where unemployment is at its worst?
Not to mention that there is nothing worse than someone who complains on Thanksgiving, particularly someone who is as fortunate as Ms. Palin.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 26, 2010 17:38:45 GMT -5
There's a time and place for everything, and 5:47 p.m. on Thanksgiving is not the time to be attacking the President of the United States, who spent part of his day at a soup kitchen giving to the less fortunate. The contrast there could not be better. Any word on the Tea Partiers and whether they worked in inner city soup kitchens yesterday, where unemployment is at its worst? Not to mention that there is nothing worse than someone who complains on Thanksgiving, particularly someone who is as fortunate as Ms. Palin. Very well said.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 26, 2010 19:38:18 GMT -5
If you look at who serves in the soup kitchens every day of the year, not just when the cameras are rolling, you'd find it is mostly those dreaded right-wing evangelical Christians doing it. I have a close family member who has done that for the last three+ years, two years of which were every day, so I have a pretty good feel on who's there finding the food, picking it up, preparing it, and serving it and most are from the churches.
Guess I knew you'd change the subject on Palin to when she made her comments from what she said. That's an old lawyer trick to keep from addressing what she said and whether it was just a slip - like others do every day.
Guess you'll blame Palin for the basketball stiches the President got today.
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Post by quickplay on Nov 26, 2010 20:37:33 GMT -5
Though I don't understand all of it, I have no issue with people going after Obama for whatever they want. Or Biden, or Clinton, or any politician. Criticism is not only fair for one side.
That being said, I just don't get how ANYONE can take Palin seriously as anything more than a bad pundit.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 26, 2010 21:54:56 GMT -5
If you look at who serves in the soup kitchens every day of the year, not just when the cameras are rolling, you'd find it is mostly those dreaded right-wing evangelical Christians doing it. I have a close family member who has done that for the last three+ years, two years of which were every day, so I have a pretty good feel on who's there finding the food, picking it up, preparing it, and serving it and most are from the churches. Guess I knew you'd change the subject on Palin to when she made her comments from what she said. That's an old lawyer trick to keep from addressing what she said and whether it was just a slip - like others do every day. Guess you'll blame Palin for the basketball stiches the President got today. I've addressed her comments, which were not proper for Thanksgiving. Nothing more need be said, nor does your anti-lawyer bigotry need to be addressed, particularly over a Thanksgiving weekend when people want to be with family and give thanks. As to your other comments, they are off-point. Mine had to do with the Tea Party, and your comments have to do with Christians (which are not mutually exclusive, but not necessarily the same given the inclusive nature of the Tea Party).
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 26, 2010 22:50:59 GMT -5
If you look at who serves in the soup kitchens every day of the year, not just when the cameras are rolling, you'd find it is mostly those dreaded right-wing evangelical Christians doing it. I have a close family member who has done that for the last three+ years, two years of which were every day, so I have a pretty good feel on who's there finding the food, picking it up, preparing it, and serving it and most are from the churches. Guess I knew you'd change the subject on Palin to when she made her comments from what she said. That's an old lawyer trick to keep from addressing what she said and whether it was just a slip - like others do every day. Guess you'll blame Palin for the basketball stiches the President got today. I've addressed her comments, which were not proper for Thanksgiving. Nothing more need be said, nor does your anti-lawyer bigotry need to be addressed, particularly over a Thanksgiving weekend when people want to be with family and give thanks. As to your other comments, they are off-point. Mine had to do with the Tea Party, and your comments have to do with Christians (which are not mutually exclusive, but not necessarily the same given the inclusive nature of the Tea Party). Avoid personal attacks.--Admin
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Post by Filo on Nov 27, 2010 23:55:28 GMT -5
There's a time and place for everything, and 5:47 p.m. on Thanksgiving is not the time to be attacking the President of the United States, who spent part of his day at a soup kitchen giving to the less fortunate. The contrast there could not be better. Any word on the Tea Partiers and whether they worked in inner city soup kitchens yesterday, where unemployment is at its worst? Not to mention that there is nothing worse than someone who complains on Thanksgiving, particularly someone who is as fortunate as Ms. Palin. This post is awesome in so many ways, from the unadulterated sanctimony all the way to the partisan hyposcrisy. Still laughing.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 28, 2010 0:24:39 GMT -5
Filo - I shudder to guess what the talking points would have been had Obama launched a Thanksgiving missive at Haley Barbour, Palin, Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh. A thinly veiled use of "arrogant," "unamerican," and "not the time" would have probably found its way in there. My response to it would have been the same, your speculation to the contrary.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 28, 2010 1:02:29 GMT -5
I think Palin's comments in her Thanksgiving address were right on target - and she used humor to get her points across. If this came out of Saturday Night Live and it was making the usual fun of Sarah, all the libs would be rejoicing. Of course they only have a sense of humor when it's in one direction. When it's libs it's humor but when it's conservatives, it's sarcasm. Did you watch even a minute of Saturday Night Live between 1997 and 1999? "Libs" (or at least most) had a fine sense of humor, if I recall correctly. I don't think anyone on either side of the aisle would dare speak ill of John Goodman as Linda Tripp. I also don't understand how anyone could disagree with the following: (1) Palin's misstatement was a meaningless slip of the tongue. (2) Her Facebook response—which I think was a chuckle-worthy-at-best joke/rant, but I suppose some may have found it funny—was ill-timed because most people don't want to deal with partisan politics on a holiday (especially those of us w/ family members on all sides of everything, including the crazy sides). (3) There is absolutely no good reason that anyone, other than Palin fans*, paid attention to either (1) or (2). *I say "fans" because that word better applies when talking about a TV personality/pundit/celebrity/reality show star/mom/grizzly bear/whatever she is. "Supporters" would connote that she actually does anything that someone might support. Until she runs for office or otherwise takes on a job that involves decision-making that people might support or not, she has "fans," not "supporters."
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 28, 2010 1:08:21 GMT -5
Strummer - I beg to differ on the supporters point. There is a huge group of folks who have helped her family in the midst of its recent hardship and oppression by the media. She even had folks rally from their basements to support her daughter in some dancing competition.
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Post by Boz on Nov 29, 2010 9:55:50 GMT -5
strummer's pretty much got it right.
The "gaffe" was innocent. Palin's response was funny, but probably not appropriate for Thanksgiving Day. And really, no one gave a [deleted], outside of a small circle of people (like us) who really need to stop caring about such things.
Hey, guilty as charged right here. I can't argue otherwise. But it really is silly.
Mike Huckabee is just as serious (or "not-so-serious" I suppose, depending on your point of view) a potential candidate as she is. If he had said something like this, it would not have caused a single drop of ink to be spilled.
And, for crying out loud, people need to stop obsessing about her family. Yes, they are in the spotlight, I do not question that. And that is of their own choosing. If people in the gossip media want to talk about whether or not one of her daughters is a good dancer, or one of her other daughters said some inappropriate things on Facebook (I, too, am guilty of calling stupid things "gay," as I imagine are more people than would be willing to admit it), that's OK, I guess. But when political talking heads/opinionators start caring about these things it makes them look like idiots. Which many of them are, I suppose. So maybe it's right after all. What the hell was my point again??
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Post by TC on Nov 29, 2010 10:53:22 GMT -5
And, for crying out loud, people need to stop obsessing about her family. Yes, they are in the spotlight, I do not question that. And that is of their own choosing. If people in the gossip media want to talk about whether or not one of her daughters is a good dancer, or one of her other daughters said some inappropriate things on Facebook (I, too, am guilty of calling stupid things "gay," as I imagine are more people than would be willing to admit it), that's OK, I guess. But when political talking heads/opinionators start caring about these things it makes them look like idiots. Which many of them are, I suppose. So maybe it's right after all. What the hell was my point again?? Perez Hilton should talk about the Palins more. That's what I got out of it anyway.
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Post by Boz on Nov 29, 2010 11:21:50 GMT -5
For what it's worth, it's possible my reaction is simply due to Palin fatigue. Yes, that's right. Even I -- having defending Palin on many occasions, and noted how strong a political figure she is (and I still believe that she is that) -- am getting a little tired of seeing her on TV all the time. And when she's not on TV, someone's writing about the last time she was on TV. Or her last Twitter post. And when they're not writing about that, they're commenting on her outfit or whether or not she was too close to a bear when fishing. I mean, she's like Obama or something! ;D Peggy Noonan had a good line yesterday, saying "I thought you were going to ask me why Sarah Palin was doing a book signing in Iowa. My answer would have been, Sarah Palin is in Iowa so that we'll all talk about why she's in Iowa." I still agree with Palin on most of her principles, absolutely. I could just use a little less of her already. Who knows, maybe it's the accent. Honestly, Fargo was a good movie, but can you really watch it over and over again? I sure can't. Man, did I just say that? I am such a lame elitist!
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