jester
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Post by jester on Dec 15, 2010 2:04:19 GMT -5
New NBAdraft.net profile up (for what its worth). www.nbadraft.net/players/chris-wrightRelative weaknesses are passing and leadership..although one could argue that overall this year these have been 2 attributes where he has stepped up.
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lurkerhoya
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Post by lurkerhoya on Dec 15, 2010 3:58:20 GMT -5
Leadership is vastly improved. A lot less bonehead plays like botching fast breaks or forcing himself into the lane. If I had to really pinpoint a weakness that pertains to the NBA level, I'd say Chris' finishing around the hoop is more problematic than a perceived flaw in his leadership or passing. For a guy who seems to get in there like AI, he never seems to draw as many fouls as that type of player should for some reason. Again though, he's improved there over the years from the guy who used to just barrel down there whereas now he's constant movement, which is how you draw fouls.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 15, 2010 7:11:23 GMT -5
I'd say Chris' play so far this season has shown a significant improvement in the areas of weakness listed in that profile. His leadership, decision making, passing and "ability to lead a team" have all shown marked improvement, as has his 3 pt shooting. And the season is young. If Chris keeps on his current trajectory, he'll be highly valued in the next NBA draft -- and we will all enjoy a VERY exciting Hoya Season!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 15, 2010 9:26:04 GMT -5
I agree chris is doing everything that a NBA scout could possibly have wanted him to do. He's improved his leadership, his passing and his 3pt shot. With the way he's playing i'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't make a roster.
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Post by Dhall on Dec 15, 2010 9:42:59 GMT -5
I like him as a college player, but he is not going to be playing in the NBA. Drafted in second round if the Hoyas do very well this year, maybe, but I don't see him making a team. When you compare him to NBA guards, he is undersized, below average shooter, below average defender. Commentators have compared him to Jameer Nelson and David Wesley. Nelson was college player of the year on a #1-seeded St. Joe's and then only drafted #20. Wesley was not drafted I believe (or at least didn't make an NBA team right out of Baylor).
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jester
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Post by jester on Dec 15, 2010 10:01:17 GMT -5
How would he compare to some one like Derek Fisher potential-wise in such an NBA offense (who addmittingly is the weakest of the Lakers starting 5?) Considering they are both of similar stature, and improvement defensively could come from additional focus/coaching, it would seem that shooting the 3ball at a high level is holding back. Jameer I think has more variety/polish in his game than Fisher - I can see why we can't jump to that comparison.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 15, 2010 10:42:19 GMT -5
I like him as a college player, but he is not going to be playing in the NBA. Drafted in second round if the Hoyas do very well this year, maybe, but I don't see him making a team. CW's individual draft prospects are inexorably linked to the TEAM's success this season. Alleluia!!! I wouldn't have it any other way. Hopefully Austin realizes that the exposure that comes with a strong BE performance and deep Tourney run by the Hoyas is in his best interest as well (i.e., the difference between a second-round pick and first-round is huge).
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 15, 2010 10:54:15 GMT -5
If Chris continues to play at the level he has played thus far, I believe that he will be drafted and play in the NBA. I, for one, don't see how you can be so dismissive of his prospects, DHall. Chris is playing really well.
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Post by hsb on Dec 15, 2010 10:57:00 GMT -5
The CW Jameer Nelson comparison is a good one. Jameer was rated the 4th best pg in his draft class. sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18643. I would put CW top 10 but I dont know about top 4. The ESPN predraft description of Jameer's strengths and weaknesses could almost be stated word for word about CW. I would put CW as a little quicker and Jameer as a better defender but otherwise, very similar. Bottom line, CW has the skill set and intangibles (great competitor, great fight), like Jameer, to play PG in the league on the right team. A good post season run by our Hoyas would certainly help his cause.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 15, 2010 11:12:10 GMT -5
The CW Jameer Nelson comparison is a good one. Jameer was rated the 4th best pg in his draft class. sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18643. I would put CW top 10 but I dont know about top 4. The ESPN predraft description of Jameer's strengths and weaknesses could almost be stated word for word about CW. I would put CW as a little quicker and Jameer as a better defender but otherwise, very similar. Bottom line, CW has the skill set and intangibles (great competitor, great fight), like Jameer, to play PG in the league on the right team. A good post season run by our Hoyas would certainly help his cause. +1. Especially the last part. Whether Chris stays in the L will depend on his ability to develop his NBA 3 point shot further, and whether he's quick enough to play effective D (and how hard he works on both). But whether he gets drafted will depend more heavily on if the Hoyas go deep in March. It's the easiest differentiator for a six foot PG.
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jester
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Post by jester on Dec 15, 2010 11:13:48 GMT -5
Agree that our post season will help get a roster spot - if a player like Sherron Collins can make it work that way no reason Chris can't.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Dec 15, 2010 11:20:29 GMT -5
If Chris continues to play at the level he has played thus far, I believe that he will be drafted and play in the NBA. I, for one, don't see how you can be so dismissive of his prospects, DHall. Chris is playing really well. Yes, he's playing well, but somewhere between 25 and 50 current college players will be on an NBA team next year at this time. Maybe 5 will be under 6'2"? IMO the things he need to do are maintain his assist numbers, not increase turnovers, improve his shooting percentages from floor and 3-pt and be on a team ranked in the top 20 all year with success in the BE and NCAA tourneys. Even then, it's iffy. Scottie Reynolds was drafted ... as the 13th overall selection in the NBDL draft.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 15, 2010 11:23:26 GMT -5
Of course, no one thought of Scottie Reynolds as a PG.
But there's no doubt size is something Chris will have to overcome - only 3 2010 draftees were at 6'3" or lower and only one at 6'1".
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Post by bigelephant on Dec 15, 2010 13:50:50 GMT -5
I love CW and so will at least one NBA team - chunk and guts and spunk and speed and quickness and passes - he'd be a crowd favorite as he is now.
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Post by RDF on Dec 15, 2010 14:15:49 GMT -5
I could care less about Chris Wright's NBA profile according to internet geek site that doesn't know jack crap about what NBA teams look for--these are same goons who talk up people like Ater Majok as top 10 picks prior to them ever having to play.
Chris has/will increase his draft stock as long as he keeps playing in a manner that shows he can control a game without scoring--shooting and majority of year he's been wonderful. Just keep playing as he has and team will win--which will reflect upon his great play, and he'll be rewarded for this.
He's a superior NBA prospect then Scottie Reynolds ever was because he can handle the ball, pass the ball, and has the quickness Reynolds wished he had.
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Post by Boz on Dec 15, 2010 14:33:28 GMT -5
He's a superior NBA prospect then Scottie Reynolds ever was because he can handle the ball, pass the ball, and has the quickness Reynolds wished he had. To be fair, Chris gets called for a fair number of charges, while Scottie Reynolds had the magical ability to get those same drives directly into bodies of opponents called as blocks. Perhaps Chris needs to work on his "wildly flailing his arms in the air at any hint of contact" skills.
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Post by RDF on Dec 15, 2010 14:47:38 GMT -5
He's a superior NBA prospect then Scottie Reynolds ever was because he can handle the ball, pass the ball, and has the quickness Reynolds wished he had. To be fair, Chris gets called for a fair number of charges, while Scottie Reynolds had the magical ability to get those same drives directly into bodies of opponents called as blocks. Perhaps Chris needs to work on his "wildly flailing his arms in the air at any hint of contact" skills. Chris commits those charges--but he's not at a Philly school where the gambling referees love to help them get to the FT line. How does a program with a lack of interior scoring repeatedly go to the FT line so much? Not just that--but a bunch of defensive hacks who are taught to jump into defensive players get calls? Shouldn't officials be wise to the slickster doofus Jay Wright and his methods by now??
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Post by lurkerhoya on Dec 15, 2010 21:22:05 GMT -5
You would think so, but I've always said this was one of CW's weaknesses, albeit one which is showing improvement. Say what you will about Reynolds, he had that hop step pretty well down, which is going to get you foul calls. By changing the angle of attack so quickly, you force the defender to move from his set position to a new one that the offensive player already has the right to. It's simply a move you have to learn and perfect if you're going to be a 6-foot guard.
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Post by mit0313 on Dec 20, 2010 13:04:03 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 20, 2010 13:07:36 GMT -5
WTF?!?
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